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To be clear, our bet is that out of all the players on the 2023 team, freshman, sophomores, Juniors, Seniors and 5th year players, that in year 2027, players from every position on the 2023 team will be playing that position in the NFL.
You accepted that bet.
This means that if any starting Senior or 5th+ year starter is NOT drafted in April of 2024, you lose the bet because they don’t have NFL talent since they couldn’t make it to the NFL.
Now back to the other issue, list the requests that the NFLPA has made to the league in 2021, 2022 and 2023. Since you stated that the NFLPA makes lots of requests, you should be able to list them from the years I cited.
Your failure to list them just proves that you’re a liar and a fraud !
You accepted that bet.
This means that if any starting Senior or 5th+ year starter is NOT drafted in April of 2024, you lose the bet because they don’t have NFL talent since they couldn’t make it to the NFL.
Now back to the other issue, list the requests that the NFLPA has made to the league in 2021, 2022 and 2023. Since you stated that the NFLPA makes lots of requests, you should be able to list them from the years I cited.
Your failure to list them just proves that you’re a liar and a fraud !
The bet is 22 players on this current roster have to be drafted and at least 1 player from each position group has to be drafted by the time they are done with their eligibilty
What happens or doesn't happen in 2024 is irrelevant
Well Patty time to call Jeff Brohm a moron as well. He was on Inside CFB on CBS Sports & he said ND has NFL players at almost every position.
Players that are likely to get drafted
Morrison
Alt
Estime
Evans
Fisher
Hartman
Cross Jr
Liftua
Hart
Closs calls but probably FA signings are Baptise, Bertrand, Botehlo, Mills, Watts, Zeke C, Thomas, Mickey, Harper, Schrader
Potential for future picks Flores, Greathouse, Love, Staes
Morrison
Alt
Estime
Evans
Fisher
Hartman
Cross Jr
Liftua
Hart
Closs calls but probably FA signings are Baptise, Bertrand, Botehlo, Mills, Watts, Zeke C, Thomas, Mickey, Harper, Schrader
Potential for future picks Flores, Greathouse, Love, Staes
99.9% of message boards are free what does it being non-paywalled have to do with anything?
Some of those close calls you mentioned will get drafted, specifically Mills and Baptiste
You forgot potential future guys like Raridon, Price, Gray and some other frosh
I was being conservative & was only using the starters/main rotation guys on this year team but yes the potential in Gray, Price, Raridon is absolutely there to get drafted.
| layer 2 | No | Player 3 | No | Player 4 | No | Player 5 | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| OFFENSE | ||||||||||
| WR-X | 5 | Merriweather, Tobias SO | 17 | |||||||
| WR-Z | 83 | Thomas, Jayden RS SO | 17 | |||||||
| WR-SL | 2 | Tyree, Chris SR | 19 | |||||||
| LT | 76 | Alt, Joe JR | 79 | |||||||
| LG | 78 | Coogan, Pat RS SO | 74 | |||||||
| OC | 52 | Correll, Zeke GR | 70 | |||||||
| RG | 50 | Spindler, Rocco RS SO | 73 | |||||||
| RT | 54 | Fisher, Blake RS SO | 59 | |||||||
| TE | 88 | Evans, Mitchell JR | 13 | |||||||
| QB | 10 | Hartman, Sam GR/TR | 18 | |||||||
| RB | 7 | Estimé, Audric JR | 3 | |||||||
| DEFENSE | ||||||||||
| DE | 1 | Jean-Baptiste, Javontae GR/TR | 31 | |||||||
| NT | 56 | Cross III, Howard GR | 92 | |||||||
| DT | 99 | Mills, Rylie SR | 47 | |||||||
| VYPER | 12 | Botelho, Jordan SR | 44 | |||||||
| WLB | 8 | Liufau, Marist GR | 23 | |||||||
| MLB | 27 | Bertrand, JD GR | 34 | |||||||
| ROVER | 24 | Kiser, Jack GR | 3 | |||||||
| LCB | 5 | Hart, Cam GR | 7 | |||||||
| LS | 2 | Brown, DJ GR | 4 | |||||||
| RS | 00 | Watts, Xavier RS JR | 11 | |||||||
| RCB | 20 | Morrison, Benjamin SO | 29 | |||||||
| NB | 13 | Harper, Thomas GR/TR | 6 | |||||||
| SPECIAL TEAMS | ||||||||||
| PT | 14 | McFerson, Bryce RS FR | 43 | |||||||
| PK | 32 | Shrader, Spencer GR/TR | 92 | |||||||
| KO | 32 | Shrader, Spencer GR/TR | 92 | |||||||
| LS | 65 | Vinson, Michael GR | 51 | |||||||
| H | 14 | McFerson, Bryce RS FR | 16 | |||||||
| PR | 2 | Tyree, Chris SR | 7 | |||||||
| KR | 22 | Ford, Devyn SR/TR | 24 | |||||||
Thought it was the current roster has NFL draftable talent at every position? Will have to wait till 2028 to settle this bet, I think Golson wins.
It was. And I added that 22 players had to be drafted from the current roster
No, that’s not the bet !
It’s NOT the “roster”, it’s the players at “EVERY POSITION”
You claimed that ND was “loaded with NFL talent at “EVERY POSITION”
Ergo, ”every position” is now occupied by NFL talent.
That means that every starter at every position is “NFL TALENTED”
So, if any starting Senior, GR, GR/TR and SR/TR fails to get drafted you lose the bet.
If a player has NFL TALENT, he’s starting !
NO, IT WASN’T, AND STAY OUT OF THIS, THIS BET HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU, UNLESS OF COURSE YOU WANT TO BET WITH GOLSON
I’m razor sharp on this, but since you think I’m confused would you like a piece of this bet big shot ?
I Agreed to confine it to the 11 starters on offense and the 11 starters on defense, and not the special teams players
Bullshit, that’s not the bet !
You claimed that “ND was LOADED WITH NFL TALENT AT EVERY POSITION”
”EVERY POSITION, ALL 22 OF THEM.
ERGO, IF JUST ONE STARTER WHO IS A SENIOR, GR, GR/TR OR SR/TR WHO FAILS TO GET DRAFTED YOU LOSE THE BET.
AND, IF I WANT TO BE TECHNICAL THEY WOULD HAVE TO MAKE AN NFL ROSTER !
JUST BECAUSE THEY’RE DRAFTED DOESN’T MEAN THAT THEY POSSESS NFL TALENT, BEING DRAFTED JUST MEANS THAT THEY HAVE POTENTIAL, BUT NOT NECESSARILY THE TALENT TO BE IN THE NFL
I KNEW THAT YOU WOULD TRY TO WEASEL OUT OF THIS BET
THE FACT IS THAT WE DON’T HAVE NFL TALENT AT EVERY POSITION, IF WE DID WE’D B;OW OUT EVERY TEAM
Lol, hey loud mouth. Don’t get salty with me, I’ll call your senior community center.
You, the almighty, who call yourself smart and full of integrity, are changing the terms of the bet. I read, as did others, the bet you made with Golson. It was… that there was NFL at EVERY POSITION. And the proof of the bet that was one player from each position would be drafted before they exhaust their eligibility. There was zero stipulation that they were starters. It was AT EVERY POSITION. And as you know, there are depth charts at every position (since you referred to them dozens of times about the WR group).
I have no need to bet. Plus I’m told you already welched on other bets.
“Draftable” was NEVER a component part of the bet, but if a player isn’t drafted that automatically disqualifies them as being deemed “NFL TALENT”
Would you like to join Golson’s side of the bet ?
Go back and read the posts the week of the Navy game. The conditions of the bet were spelled out. You are changing the bet
Hey douche bag, You’re just another wise guy liar.
i NEVER changed the bet !
And NO that wasn’t the bet, you don’t know what the f-Cigna you’re talking about, the bet was based on Golson’s insistence that “ND was loaded with NFL talent at EVERY POSITION”
Go back and read his claim, and if you’re too dumb,have someone with integrity and a brain read it for you.
Let me try to clarify things for your feeble brain.
If ND had NFL TALENT at every position, that NFL TALENTED player would be starting, right. You wouldn’t sit a player with NFL TALENT and let a player without NFL TALENT start ahead of him.
If ND had NFL TALENT at every position that NFL TALENTED player would be starting.
‘Remember, Golson stated that ND was “Loaded with NFL TALENT at EVERY position.
”EVERY POSITION”. Ergo every starter is a player with NFL TALENT according to him.
That means that every starter can PLAY in the NFL.
Getting drafted doesn’t mean that you have the TALENT to play in the NFL, it just means that it’s thought that you have the potential to play in the NFL.
‘Making the Roster of an NFL team means that you have NFL talent.
The draft is just a first qualifying step, one where a starter on the 2023 team who is a Senior, GR, SR/TR or SR/GR who isn’t drafted automatically causes Golson to lose the bet.
And, if they are drafted, they have to make an NFL ROSTER in order to be deemed “NFL TALENTED”
Does that clarify it for you douche bag ?
Now do you want some of Golson’s bet ?
I CLEARLY SPELLED OUT THE FINAL TERMS OF THE BET, AND GOLSON ACCEPTED THEM, DOUCHE BAG.
The statement that “ ND is LOADED with NFL TALENT at EVERY POSITION“ is self evident in terms of establishing the basis of the bet.
If ND was “loaded with NFL talent at EVERY position“, every starter in 2023 who is eligible for the April 2024 draft would be drafted, and if just one player who is eligible for the draft, isn’t drafted, then Golson loses the bet at that point. And if every starter was drafted, if just one doesn’t make an NFL roster, Golson also loses the bet. So do you care to join him in betting me ?
‘’Since you injected your douche bag nose into this, do you want a piece of Golson’s side of the bet ? Yes or No ?
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Would you like to bet on that too ?
Or are you just another weasel, douche bag who makes false allegations, who won’t back them up by putting your money where your mouth is.
IrishJohn lost and welched on his bet with me and ND in NJ verified that all of my statements that were the foundation of our bet were true.
‘’Get your facts right douche bag before you open up your mouth and make false allegations.
You don’t bet because you’re a coward who knows that you can‘t support your false allegations. You’re just another internet loser, all talk and no substance !
Hey, Golson, I’m so much more with it and so much smarter than you that it’s not even close.
‘’I knew that you’d try to weasel out of our bet.
‘You’ve already proven yourself to be a liar, lacking character and integrity.
Im still waiting for you to list the requests that the NFLPA made to the league in 2021, 2022 and 2023.
Remember, you stated that “the NFLPA makes lots of requests to the league” so what are they ? List them for us just for 2021, 2022 and 2023.
You’re a colossal FRAUD !
I've provided direct quotes from you and me on what the bet was
I would have gained a little respect for you if you admitted you forgot or misremembered.
But you did what you always do, call everyone else names and try to change the narrative
It's like when you are proven wrong by everyone you act out even more. Like a little child
Just another embarrassing moment for you
lol, you calling anyone a douchebag is the epitome of irony.
Patrice you are mighty confused. Refer to dates of Aug 23-26 in this thread. It was simply stated, you agreed, and now you are trying to further qualify the terms to your advantage. Sucks to be confused like you
Cheese and crackers...
You guys have a ranked opponent on tap you should beat this weekend, and you are still bickering about this?
You guys have a ranked opponent on tap you should beat this weekend, and you are still bickering about this?
11-1 JMO but that gets a playoff spot: W’s over SC and CU, plus a few other good teams.
If the team continues to play their hearts out and misses the playoff, I am still with them 100%!
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You are a Michigan fan on a Notre Dame board posting about Notre Dame fans.....
Lol, your “self evidence” doesn’t wash. And I have already said NO to your question TWICE. Are you hard of hearing?
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