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Does the “Prevent” defense

Golden’s statement,
There’s things that we can learn from it,” Golden said. “Obviously we’ve got to finish better and I’ve got to make some calls there, but at that point, I just didn’t think continuing to show elaborate pressures in that situation was to our benefit, to be quite honest with you.”
He was already thinking about Georgia. No sense showing any more than you have to. Non issue.
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Riley Leonard or Ian Book

Book was probably a better athlete than RL. I think he ran like a 4.6 flat at the combine or pro day or whatever. So RL doesn't even have him on that. But I don't know, maybe he runs a 4.55. I suppose he's more of a 'natural' runner, maybe, meaning something like, he's happy to take off and run, is a pretty good all around athlete, and has sort of a knack for it. And the fact that he is not a great passer encourages this tendency as a practical matter. He's a dual threat! If a coach wanted to run Book as much as RL is utilized in that way he'd probably do just as well. And he is smaller, RL is like a TE almost. Plus I think RL is deceptively fast, and really does catch defenders off guard.

It's not an apples to apples comparison in any case. Book was a three year starter and all time ND great, and RL is a one year rent a QB in the portal era. And RL hardly carries the team, he's almost more like a cog in this offense. The defense leads the way, and the run game, of which he most certainly is a key part, leads the offense. We pass as effectively as we do, on account of the strength and threat of the run game, and as a complement to it. And as long as we stay within RL's limits as a passer, which Denbrock has seemed to orchestrate brilliantly, our passing game is very functional.
All time great ? That's embarrassing. A very good college QB. No more, no less. ND has had lots of those.

Does the “Prevent” defense

What constitutes a true 'prevent' defensive posture could be different things to different coaches. It doesn't really matter, ND was up by 24 points, so there's no really need for anything. Just keep doing what you're doing, they weren't going to lose in any event, and we weren't trying to hold onto a possibly vulnerable 7 or 10 point lead, which is where you might employ a prevent D. But to what degree we did kind of soften up a little bit, and go a little conservative, it definitely appeared to cost us. Even though to repeat impossible to lose that game with a 24 point lead and less than five minutes to go.

Riley Leonard or Ian Book

Totally agree, Golson! Just reporting what I heard. I hope Freeman sticks to what he said. No QB transfers this year.
It really comes down to Carr’s physical condition. If staff are concerned, then Ewars would be a great get. Like everyone else here, much prefer we develop and run with our qb room. I’ve been a Minchey fan since he committed, and thought he had a higher upside than Angeli, but none of us has any idea how he has progressed. I like Angeli’s passing ability, but he’s so deliberate in his reads and immobile in the pocket, that he is sack prone in my opinion. I would hate to enter next season with Angeli as our starter, and have no basis for thinking an inexperienced Minchey would be any better. If Carr is not 100%, for me, it really comes down to Minchey’s development and whether staff are high on him.

Does the “Prevent” defense

Agree, although base calls for ND in passing situations almost always involves some form of blitzing. May not have been classic prevent, but I don’t think it accurate to suggest we only played a softer defense on one or two plays. I think Golden’s statement makes this pretty obvious.
Prior to posting in this thread, had you gone back and rewatched these drives?

Golson, who was a tougher game for Notre Dame IU or SC?

OK, the question was which team played ND better, and the answer is clearly USC.

The broader debate building to this question was which team was better, IU or USC, which is the question you keep answering. While I think USC has more talent, I think IU proved to be the better team over the course of the season.
Exactly. And I knew ND would play Indiana better because of all those points I made

It was a dumb question and he tried to get a gotcha. I wasn't going to play that silly game but you wanted an answer to a dumb question for some reason

If SC came into our stadium in the exact scenario like Indiana we curbstomp them. They are the better team and its by a good margin

If Tenn played in the SEC…

I think the most fair way for the super conf model is break them up into 9 team divisions. You play 7 division games at start of season then take top 3 of each division and they played cross over games between each other, 4-6 7-9. No conf champ game. That way you get the best of each conference settling it on the field. Then you start playoffs immediately after regular season. Having 3-4 weeks off kills momentum of teams & allows teams with better rosters to heal up and prepare.

Riley Leonard or Ian Book

Book was more consistent than RL. However, RL is the better athlete and has more big play ability. I'd give the edge to Book, as I would trust him more, but man it's close.
What does big play ability mean? You mean the occasional 20 yard QB run? RL doesn't have big play ability, that's precisely what he doesn't have. Unless you count handing the ball off for a 99 yard TD run. Ian Book has a long list of impressive TD passes and some pretty good runs himself. Way more big plays than RL has, way more of a threat to make a big play, because he's a normal good passing QB so that you don't have to strip down the offensive playbook in order to avoid INTs and incompletions.

So one thing RL does not have on Ian Book is big play ability.

Does the “Prevent” defense

He may not have been angling for big plays, but that doesn’t mean they were playing prevent. It was mostly base calls except for maybe two plays.
Agree, although base calls for ND in passing situations almost always involves some form of blitzing. May not have been classic prevent, but I don’t think it accurate to suggest we only played a softer defense on one or two plays. I think Golden’s statement makes this pretty obvious.

Does the “Prevent” defense

Golden’s statement,
There’s things that we can learn from it,” Golden said. “Obviously we’ve got to finish better and I’ve got to make some calls there, but at that point, I just didn’t think continuing to show elaborate pressures in that situation was to our benefit, to be quite honest with you.”
He may not have been angling for big plays, but that doesn’t mean they were playing prevent. It was mostly base calls except for maybe two plays.

Lane Kiffin continues his complaining

Disagree that Conf Champs automatically deserve to be in. Hell, we’re talking about selecting the top 12 teams to participate in a playoff, and conference champs will almost always be among this group. But if not, they don’t deserve to be there.
Which is why people like you are not on the committee. I guess as a ND fan that could be, if not forgiven then at least to be expected. But unsurprisingly you've taken that to an extreme, like many ND fans, and not only do you cherish ND's precious independence, you have cultivated through years of long practice, a contempt for the existence of conferences at all, even though if everybody was independent, and there was no conferences, it would lose all meaning and it wouldn't be special or unique.

So like the gracious ND fan that you are, you accept and embrace and indeed cherish ND's special and unique 'independence', and you just don't want conferences to get anything. And you want everything about the structure and ethos of CFB to favor ND, and cater to ND, and all the rest of CFB, 100% of all teams, can eat cake. And ND fans get to eat that same cake, they get to have it and eat it too. And everybody has to eat it. But that's what the mob seems to want, and the SEC definitely seems to want, so they can get like, six teams in every year, even though typically ND fans live to spite and despise the SEC and anything they might want. But you have to make an exception this time.

I assume UGA is the home team

I can't wait for this UNIFORM FETISH to reach the UGLY end of the spectrum: say, white helmets, gold jerseys, blue britches and Kelly green shoes.

Or would ND be penalized for BLINDING THE OTHER TEAM?

It's not the uniform on the player that counts, BUT THE PLAYER WEARING IT.

The medieval English Crown had a KEEPER OF THE WARDROBE. Do college football teams now have such a FUNCTIONARY? Sure seems like it.

I mean, who's in charge here -- DONATELLA VERSACE?

Youre Weird Orson Welles GIF

Golson, who was a tougher game for Notre Dame IU or SC?

Yeah, that wasn't the question though

NIU played ND better than both.

Game was at USC. 4th week in a row going from NY to Ind to Cali. No Cross

2 different games. Indiana is a better team than SC and by a decent margin
Cmon, that was the question….Answer the question, who played ND better, IU or SC???

Does the “Prevent” defense

No. Maybe one or two plays was a “softer” defense. That’s it.
Golden’s statement,
There’s things that we can learn from it,” Golden said. “Obviously we’ve got to finish better and I’ve got to make some calls there, but at that point, I just didn’t think continuing to show elaborate pressures in that situation was to our benefit, to be quite honest with you.”
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