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Underwood to Michigan

What do you think happens when one player signs a major NIL deal? He sets the market for the next number one consensus prospect comes along. Conversations will start at 10 million going forward.

I don't think people realize just how much money is involved in college football 10 million is relative chump change

That's why I made the point that Notre Dame should be out in the forefront right now dumping tons of money on all the best prospects in the country because prospects are at their cheapest point as I'm typing this then they will probably ever be. And by the time Notre Dame adjusts to the new market there won't be any competitive advantage to be had anymore and they'll be needing to spend this kind of money just to stay relevant instead of getting ahead
Sounds like a salary cap should be coming for NIL then, unless this is Major League Baseball.

By the way, do you know who Larry Ellison is? He’s the 2nd richest person on earth, worth $231 Billion, he lead the charge for Underwood. $10M to him is like, idk maybe $3 to us? Probably less. If someone like him gets behind a program and continues to lead NIL funding, it’s over. Just overpay well over market value. How could anyone compete?

But maybe you can email Elon Musk and see if he wants to join us. Anyone know if he’s Catholic?
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Underwood to Michigan

On3 reported this evening that Bryce’s offer was $1.5M from LSU (are they not a big program?) It’s being reported Michigan offered $10.5-$12M. Pretty substantial gap.

I know of very few athletes being offered this amount of cash out of high school, but apparently everyone but ND is doing it…
What do you think happens when one player signs a major NIL deal? He sets the market for the next number one consensus prospect that comes along. Conversations will start at 10 million going forward.

I don't think people realize just how much money is involved in college football these days

$10 million is relative chump change

That's why I made the point that Notre Dame should be out in the forefront right now dumping tons of money on all the best prospects in the country because prospects are at their cheapest point as I'm typing this then they will probably ever be. And by the time Notre Dame adjusts to the new market there won't be any competitive advantage to be had anymore and they'll be needing to spend this kind of money just to maintain their current standing instead of seizing this opportunity to get ahead

The leadership at Notre Dame as it relates to the football program is completely ineffectual. It's why they can't win football games at the highest level anymore.

Underwood to Michigan

It's not just Michigan it's pretty much every modern power and historic power in the sport serious about competing for national titles

they are spending upwards of 25 to 30 plus million a year in NIL on their roster but Notre Dame fans think they are going to win a national title by spending a few million on ACC 4th year seniors, bringing back their own fourth and fifth years, and signing three and four star prospects 😂
On3 reported this evening that Bryce’s offer was $1.5M from LSU (are they not a big program?) It’s being reported Michigan offered $10.5-$12M. Pretty substantial gap.

I know of very few athletes being offered this amount of cash out of high school, but apparently everyone but ND is doing it…
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Underwood to Michigan

Do you think we have a chance to win it this year? Final 4? Playoff win? What are your expectations for the rest of this season?
I think the best indicator of where a team stands in the hierarchy of college football is the F+ rankings. F+ sees Notre Dame as a back end top 10 team and considerably far away from the top five or so teams in the country which isn't too far away from how F+ has viewed Notre Dame going back to the inception of the F+ system.

What has Notre Dame won over the last 15 years being a back-end top 10 to top 15 team? They usually do well versus their ACC & G5 opponents and then get gobsmacked against anybody at the high end of college football (to the teams that are securing the type of prospects that Underwood represents)

Somehow I'm the only one able to make this connection in the entirety of the Notre Dame fan base

With that being said how do you think I think Notre Dame will do in the playoffs in terms of their upside/chances of winning national title?
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Underwood to Michigan

It's not just Michigan it's pretty much every modern power and historic power in the sport serious about competing for national titles

they are spending upwards of 25 to 30 plus million a year in NIL on their roster but Notre Dame fans think they are going to win a national title by spending a few million on ACC 4th year seniors and three and four star prospects lol
Do you think we have a chance to win it this year? Final 4? Playoff win? What are your expectations for the rest of this season?
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Underwood to Michigan

This isn’t Barstool money. Michigan released a statement and the first names that were mentioned were Larry Ellison & his wife. Billionaire money is a different level. Michigan appears to be competing with the likes of Oregon on NIL spend.

https://www.championscircleuofm.com/thosewhostayhome
It's not just Michigan it's pretty much every modern power and historic power in the sport serious about competing for national titles

they are spending upwards of 25 to 30 plus million a year in NIL on their roster but Notre Dame fans think they are going to win a national title by spending a few million on ACC 4th year seniors, bringing back their own fourth and fifth years, and signing three and four star prospects 😂

Underwood to Michigan

Of all the places for him to end up. Michigan is the worst passing team in the P4. Dead last. So bad that you could say it cost them their season. And instead of becoming the next Jayden Daniels, which was definitely the plan for him, why he picked LSU, he can be the next JJ McCarthy, with no Harbaugh. I guess he's a guaranteed true frosh starter, by default. And I could easily imagine that scumbag from Barstool sports tying to hold out on him and screw him on the deal.

Anyway, F BK, right?
This isn’t Barstool money. Michigan released a statement and the first names that were mentioned were Larry Ellison & his wife. Billionaire money is a different level. Michigan appears to be competing with the likes of Oregon on NIL spend.

https://www.championscircleuofm.com/thosewhostayhome
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JOK career may be over

Notre Dame and the other blue bloods like them are doing about 100 to 200 million per season in sales and a business with the margins like those in college football are worth billions of dollars (10x annual revenue).

A lot of these blue bloods will take the money from football and reinvest it back into football to grow the product or they'll take the money from football and they'll distribute it to the other sports in their athletic department to be competitive in those other sports even if those other sports aren't making money and then they'll claim that the athletic department isnt profitable despite the football program being extremely profitable in and of itself (this is the oldest PR trick in the book) but I digress

Football careers are extremely short you risk permanent damage to your brain and you risk the kind of injury that could end your career at any moment. These star players producing big numbers for their colleges should be making millions of dollars during their prime earning years which is as early as freshmans in college. There is little chance to make it to the NFL and when you get there your window for earning is about 3 years on average

Notre Dame talks about taking care of these recruits when they walk into the recruits house and talk to their parents

But how are you looking after these kids who have one opportunity to cash in on their extremely marketable and valuable skills when you are actively trying to regress the economic power that these recruits have in college football by trying to suppress their ability to earn fair market value for the labor they produce?

I don't understand how Notre Dame doesn't see the hypocrisy
There are expenses as well. Plus they are supporting the other non-revenue sports. You're a moron. Go to school and take a couple of business and finance classes. I've included a recent report below. from the chart in the article you take the revenue and SUBTRACT the expenses to get the NET revenue, which may not even be the profit, but let's say it is, Ohio State most revenue, but just under $25 million after expenses. math is your friend, I suggest you brush up.

Add in the fact that you have no clue what or how Notre Dame is spending their revenue, you're simply assuming. You have a very unhealthy relationship with college football in general, and I highly suggest you seek professional help, because you appear to be psychotic.

Meadows

I usually will put some effort into my responses and provide all the numbers and data and evidence available. Site a bunch of sources use a bunch of advanced ranking systems cite the consolidated view of a prospect in the industry as rated by the professionals etc etc etc but I've done all that a million times and it simply doesn't resonate certainly not with you so I'm not even going to bother this time

I'll just say that I wish I could be as naive as you and find some kind of hope in this hopeless AF situation

Meadows

It makes no sense to you because you dont know what you are doing. You dont know what to look for in recruits or evaluate/project them at the next level so stop talking out of your ass sport. Im old enough to remember when you thought Moore, Bowen & the DE from Chitown were the elite talent ND needed to compete for titles. Turns out ND is thriving without them & the kids you were down on as not being good enough have put together a 1 loss season to date & are primed for a playoff run & will likely be ranked in the top 5 once the season ends.
Under Freeman ND has recruited elite players at every position with the exception of WR. ND has one of the deepest & most talented back 7 that is only getting deeper in the country. Our oline recruiting is the envy of CFB. Our QB room is deep. Our RB room is loaded. If Traore & Botehlo come back healthy we will have a great DE rotation next yr.. DT is the only real worry on D next year.
Lol God I wish I could be this naive

Meadows

Notre Dame has two players ranked inside the composite top 100 in 2025. Their competitors for national titles at the high p4 level sign about 10 of these kids and several of them are five stars

I don't understand how a program with Notre Dame's resources can fail so badly to correct the glaring obvious problem in the program which is the lack of upside in the talent

How is this not being corrected at Notre Dame? Can someone point me to how conceding your top talent in your class every year to your competitors is helping Notre Dame win national titles? Year after year after year after year after year after year of conceding nearly all of their best prospects to other programs

It makes no sense to me. What is the impediment? This question never gets asked and nobody at the program ever has to speak to it to the public in any way. I don't understand it
It makes no sense to you because you dont know what you are doing. You dont know what to look for in recruits or evaluate/project them at the next level so stop talking out of your ass sport. Im old enough to remember when you thought Moore, Bowen & the DE from Chitown were the elite talent ND needed to compete for titles. Turns out ND is thriving without them & the kids you were down on as not being good enough have put together a 1 loss season to date & are primed for a playoff run & will likely be ranked in the top 5 once the season ends.
Under Freeman ND has recruited elite players at every position with the exception of WR. ND has one of the deepest & most talented back 7 that is only getting deeper in the country. Our oline recruiting is the envy of CFB. Our QB room is deep. Our RB room is loaded. If Traore & Botehlo come back healthy we will have a great DE rotation next yr.. DT is the only real worry on D next year.

Underwood to Michigan

Spoken like a true hater, I have to chuckle at that one. I have this vague memory of reading some blog right around the time BK was hired, and it was some ND geek alum, opining about whoever the new coach might be, and naturally BK was mentioned. And they liked him, they considered him an eligible candidate. But maybe a little too 'community college' was the phrasing I think they used. As if he might not be patrician enough somehow, for a place like ND. Which is LOL funny.

Assumption college, baby! He's only like 5-9, I think he was a LB as a player. So he had to play D-2. You got a problem with that?
Yep, I do hate him as much as you love him!

Meadows

He’s getting CB’d to Michigan… well done staff!

Bk had some bad wr classes but his staff always got good production out of them. Can’t recruit or coach wrs now
Notre Dame has two players ranked inside the composite top 100 in 2025. Their competitors for national titles at the high p4 level sign about 10 of these kids and several of them are five stars

I don't understand how a program with Notre Dame's resources can fail so badly to correct the glaring obvious problem in the program which is the lack of upside in the talent

How is this not being corrected at Notre Dame? Can someone point me to how conceding your top talent in your class every year to your competitors is helping Notre Dame win national titles? Year after year after year after year after year after year of conceding nearly all of their best prospects to other programs

It makes no sense to me. What is the impediment? This question never gets asked and nobody at the program ever has to speak to it to the public in any way. I don't understand it

Underwood to Michigan

Is that why he got into coaching or was it to win a NC and be considered one of the great coaches in CFB?? If he got into it for 💰 only then it fits his loser mentality perfectly! He was a prick in 83' when he started at Assumption and has only gotten worse over the last 40 years.
Real question: did you know him or play for him at Assumption?

Northern Illinois

I hope so.

The projections have all locked IU and PSU into the 5th and 6th slots with some saying ND will have to travel in the first playoff round. That might change or it might just stay dumb if those two buggers finish 11-1 each having a quality loss and no quality wins. I believe thus far the Hoosiers have not played any of the 7 top teams in their conference.
Every projection last 10 days has ND hosting

ESPN already planning ND to host first CFP game Friday evening 12/20
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