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Perhaps the booing started here...

I was shocked that the crowd booed the team off the field at the end of the half and the end of the game. I've been going to games since the Devine era and can't say I recall another time that happened.

Select the post game show and zoom to 1:07:40

I think we have found out where the booing started.

ND vs Nothern Illinois game thread

He showed signs here and there, but before LSU, he didn’t throw the ball down the field well, was late on decisions including when to take off running. Honestly, before he began at LSU, being a top 2 pick would be at like 10,000-1 odds.
Again, look at his recruitment out of HS. Look at the offers he had. Alabama, OSU, Oregon, LSU, Florida, FSU, Georgia.
Bama, Georgia, OSU know how to evaluate talent.
"Projects as a multi-year Power 5 starter with the upside of being an all-league quarterback at the helm of a highly productive offense if put in the right situation. Projects to an early round NFL draft selection."

Riley Leonard had offers from Ole Miss, Nebraska, Duke, Vanderbilt, Syracuse, Vanderbilt, Tulane, South Alabama, and Southern Miss.
"Needs to continue improving his arm strength and release time. Will have to add velocity to his throws to be productive with the smaller passing windows at the next level. Has the upside to develop into a starter at the Power Five level."

Denbrock was working with a completely different level QB in Daniel's vs what he has with Leonard.

Resetting Expectations

Let’s be honest in this thread, ND is not who we thought they were. They are an average football team. Let’s start with grading positions groups to illustrate my comment above:

QB: C-
WR: D+
RB: B+
TE: C
OL: D+

DL: C
LB: C-
DB: B+

Special Teams: C-

Coaching, game planning, leadership: C-

This is an average football team. I expect another 2, perhaps 3 loses when the season ends. That’s realistic expectations after 2 weeks. Is it overreaction? Maybe, this offense is terrible. The game plan and schemes are just as bad as the players executing them.

ND doesn’t have 5 starting LB’s….Mitchell Evans isn’t 100%…the WR room isn’t improved….Riley can’t throw. That’s reality folks.

Post game presser.

Man- we have some soft fans. "He's clueless".....way too much of that.

Shit game. Shit gameplan. Freeman and "2 of the best coordinators in the countey" got out-coached. Awful game. Awful day for the program and fans. Just brutal. We gotta rebound from this, and luckily, we have 10 games left.

Let's stop with the "clueless" stuff. Were they "clueless" last week when they beat Elko and A&M in College Station?

Horrible game. Horrible day. And the staff has to own it. Players too. You can't lose to NIU. But does Freeman saying what you want him to say in the presser change anything? Nope.

Horrible day. On to Purdue.

We gotta rebound and beat Purdue and Miami OH. Then beat Louisville's asses in a revenge game. Get to 4-1, and we can start to think about playoffs again.

But stop wanting Freeman to get on his knees and beg ND Nation to not fire him. Won't happen.
I’m not asking him to beg for his job. I’m asking him to get out of the way. Figuratively that is. In other words I think his philosophy might be handicapping the offense. Somehow I feel like there is an air of playing not to lose.

Leonard , Greathouse and Freeman are done.

Everyone makes mistakes. And forgiveness is usually generous.

What Leonard did however, is not forgettable. It may be forgivable, but only imo if he is benched. Otherwise his ass is toast as far as I am concerned.

Wildly over rated. Who in their right mind said he is a top nfl prospect ? Kid only has legs. What he did with that under thrown ball is criminal. It is hard to believe. Any qb knows you overthrow in that situation. You protect the lead you never under throw He cannot come back from this as a ND player. It’s that bad

Greathouse same. That drop will define his ND career. He is done. Transfer portal. Bye

Freeman has run out of runway and should be run out of town. Losing and embarrassing the school to inferior opponents has made him dead to me. All my good feelings toward him are evaporated. Get the —- out of town. You are done

And one last guy is an eyelash from being on this list of banished losers - Denbrock He is culpable in this loss. Wtf was he thinking? If Leonard runs on that last series we win. If Leonard runs on the series before that and the series before that - we win

But we all know - No one will be benched no one will lose their job. It pays to screw up .
You've already stated all of this in other threads you started.
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