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Another year...same old, same old ineffective QB

Just one comment on Riley, the passer.

Look at his Duke sophomore year highlight reel.

HE THREW DIMES on SIDELINE FLY ROUTES where there was TIGHT COVERAGE.

WHAT HAPPENED in the interim?

???
Lots of good throws to deep crossers and out routes caught on the far numbers. Some good deep balls. Check out the 2022 Wake Forest/Duke game.

Part of the issue I’d imagine is the lack of Spring practice and timing/communication. Another part is the offensive line. It’s clear to me that the offensive line is below average and the coaches are taking that into consideration and not throwing it downfield as much.

Part of it is that Leonard is just not playing well. It happens, and we’ll see how he rebounds.
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Another year...same old, same old ineffective QB

An apologist to me is someone who is unreasonable in defense of something. I don’t think I’m that. I’m freely acknowledging that he did not have a good game in the passing game against NIU although I don’t think he was as terrible as others — and that’s only natural because few people are going to watch every snap 10-30 times like I do. Sorry, but not even talking about myself, I’d rather take someone’s opinion who gave a close rewatch of the game than some ignorant fan who just watched the game live and is now all pissy because Notre Dame lost (not necessarily directed at you).

My whole deal is that you win and lose as a team. You brought up the defense. I offered that the defense was not that that good in order to demonstrate nuance. NOT to deflect blame away from Leonard towards the defense!

Here’s some more nuance: ND’s defense against Navy was not as good as the scoreboard would indicate in both 2021 and 2023. It was better than the scoreboard would indicate against Navy in 2022. Why? Nuance! If one wants to effectively evaluate, you don’t just look at the scoreboard or W/L record.

You yourself are admitting that you’re basically just going off of winning the NIU and Purdue games. It’s not a sound way to evaluate an individual player.

I could be giving a very similar defense of Angeli or any other QB. I did defend Angeli when one of the board clowns took a gratuitous shot at Angeli by calling him “checkdown Steve”. I gave a nuanced, detailed response but ended up deleting it.

Few people would have wanted to read me bashing Freeman in 2021 and 2022 and yet here I am in 2024 defending him. I call it like I see it. But now lots of people are bashing him because I guess its okay now that he lost to a third, vastly inferior opponent. Where were all of these geniuses in 2021 and 2022? No where because they can’t see nuance.
"Where were all of these geniuses in 2021 and 2022?"

HERE I IS. I'm ONE OF THEM.

I carry both my GENIUS - 2021 and GENIUS - 2022 cards in my wallet -- right next to my dog-eared COVID vaccine card.

I wanted Freeman on the 3:10 to Yuma with Russel Crowe, the day after Swarbrick hired him.

No offense to Freeman. A more decent guy is almost UNIMAGINABLE. I just didn't want Gerry Faust type Fall Saturdays.

Another year...same old, same old ineffective QB

You evaluate the individual’s performance irrespective of whether or not you lost.

The defense didn’t totally do it’s job in my and other people’s opinion. It’s more nuanced than just the 16 points on the board.

I think Riley was a more proven passer at Duke, especially when you consider his worth in the run game.

Perhaps ND wouldn’t beat Purdue with Angeli. Maybe ND would. Same thing with Leonard. No player is guaranteed to have a good or bad game.

I think people are over looking the sub par offensive line.
Just one comment on Riley, the passer.

Look at his Duke sophomore year highlight reel.

HE THREW DIMES on SIDELINE FLY ROUTES where there was TIGHT COVERAGE.

WHAT HAPPENED in the interim?

???

Another year...same old, same old ineffective QB

I hadn't even thought of that angle. I was just thinking this was MF's boy, his big prize QB transfer. Even though he already had one in SH with mixed results. I guess on account of TB and Pyne just weren't good enough. And now it's RL's turn with probably even more hype, and more expertctations. So naturally he'd be hesitant to pull him. Because it reflects upon him. Even though if your goal is the playoff, things have already begun to skew sharply in the opposite direction with RL at the helm. So maybe you need to think again.

But you're suggesting it's more strategic that. We have to think about the donors' more capricious sensibilities, perhaps. We can't let them think we don't know what we're doing, and blowing their wad on a QB who's on the bench after two games with the rest of the season nearly a formality already. Yeah, I guess that totally could be the case as well.
There's MONEY INVOLVED.

I may be wrong, but my GUT says people want a return -- and since they're BOOSTER/DONOR types -- my sense is that they also want to BRAG ABOUT it. How their JUDICIOUSLY APPLIED MONEY got ND over the line.

IF NOT FOR THEM, etc.

Another year...same old, same old ineffective QB

And that's called a sunk cost, when you've already spent the money. So ideally, it shouldn't factor into your decision-making.
"IDEALLY," it shouldn't, but as a PRACTICAL MATTER it happens all the time. People not only DEFEND the original decision by continuing with it, they often DOUBLE DOWN as well.

In fact, the inability to write off or walk away from a decision that has or is in the process of producing what looks like a NEGATIVE OUTCOME leads to something called the SUNK COST FALLACY.

From Project Management firm ASANA:

"The sunk cost fallacy is our tendency to continue with something we’ve invested money, effort, or time into—even if the current costs outweigh the benefits. When we fall prey to the sunk cost fallacy, we make irrational decisions that are against our best interest—essentially digging ourselves into a deeper and deeper hole."


And THIS:

"When we let the sunk cost fallacy influence our decisions, we often make bad choices that hurt us. Instead of using logic, we fall prey to a vicious cycle that often includes an escalation of our commitments—we continue to invest time, money, and energy into something, even if it’s not in our best interest. The more we invest, the more committed we are—and the more resources we funnel into that initial bad decision."


To me, someone INEXPERIENCED like Freeman, operating in the glare of one of sport's MOST UNFORGIVING SPOTLIGHTS, is just the kind of guy who'd be MOST SUSCEPTIBLE -- make that VULNERABLE -- to the SUNK COST FALLACY.

At least, that's my view from 30,000 feet.
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