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The solution to "Meaningless Bowl Games"

Irishherb, when you consider how so very few players get into the NFL, you have to think that they’re playing for their school
True, a few get in. But seems like a lot of them have dreams of making it. How else do you explain the sit outs, entering the transfer portal, etc.

I can't remember the name, but I do remember reading that back during the Leahy years there was a player on the ND team who got very little playing time (but he was playing for the team he loved). When he found out that he could get an extra year of eligibility due to having not played at all or only for a few plays in one of his years, he asked coach if he should enroll for another year so he could play. Leahy's response was "Son if you really want to play, you should consider the NFL" ... he did, was an All-Pro, and received several honors playing in the NFL.

Anyone here listening to College Game Day this morning?

Here’s one thing to consider. The portal and NIL have allowed teams to be competitive and in some cases pretty darn good. No way is Indiana 11-1 this season without the transfer portal. They aren’t a “ powerhouse “. But let’s give them some credit. They are a darn good team. ND beat them and in a convincing way. Still , the perception is that the SEC is the pinnacle conference and that’s who everyone is compared with. ND has a huge opportunity to take the program a step higher. It will be great if they can beat Georgia. But even if they don’t , this has been a great year minus the NIL loss.

Curt Cignetti

I like him but talking shit on Game Day was dumb. Saban gave him a bunch of shit after his rant . He is a bit full of himself.
The decision to punt late was laughable. Why not just pull out a white flag and wave it around?
Worse…after punting with 11 mins to go and down 17 pts, which sent those equally loud mouth Hoosier fans on their way….he calls TO’s on the last 2 drives and an onsides kick …

Deserving or Best?

Thank you for making this thread, at least somebody wants to engage in some real talk about the playoff, instead of just totally mega biased bullshit, most of which goes straight into the toilet. With that said, at least on a philosophical level, if you go with 'better', it would be worse than even the bowls, and the playoff becomes nothing more than a sweaty, violent Roman mob extravaganza, the regular season is entirely irrelevant, every game completely meaningless, utterly devoid of anything at all, and when it's all said and done, W/Ls, SOS, none of it means anything. And the national champion is truly mythical. You just make your own personal choice on who the purportedly best teams are, however you see fit. And when you reduce yourself to that level of savagery, recruiting stars really do matter, because that's essentially the true and sole criteria for inclusion in the playoff, the one bit of reliable substance by which you actually guide your choices. If you want to make a pretense of carefully consideing a team's record and SOS and all that shit, knock yourself out, but the only reason the SEC is the SEC is because of recruiting. And that would become the de facto criteria for all teams by default. But more importantly, there is no criteria, it really is just personal judgement. One's own sense of things, however such sense is arrived at. It is indeed the emperor giving the thumbs up or thumbs down. Essentially the antithesis of winning it on the field.

If you go on putative 'merit', as nebulous as that may be, W/Ls are still the supreme criterion, SOS coming next, and while one's own personal honor and intellectual scruples remain paramount when it comes to the task of deciding something inherently subjective on the basis of comparative merit, so long as that is in enough supply, you could maintain a modicum of dignity and legitimacy in your playoff. And some teams will be disappointed, not everyone will make it in. But you can know in advance that recruiting stars and a preponderance of elite 'talent' will not be a particularly significant criteria. So you'll have to make sure you win enough games, regardless of anything else.
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Deserving or Best?

Let's be honest: so far, it's very clear that Indiana, and SMU can't stack up to the better teams in the country. They just can't. And I know so many here still want to build up Indiana as top 12 team, the truth is despite their record, they're probably not even a top 20 team. Same with SMU. So going forward in years ahead with this playoff, do they take a deserving team like Indiana with just one loss, or do they take a better 3 loss team? You have to admit that the talent at Alabama or Ole Miss is far superior than the talent at Indiana where they have so many James Madison transfers.
One of the things that DISTORTS THE PROCESS is scheduling. SMU could easily be a FOUR-LOSS TEAM in the SEC, and the same could be true of Indiana had it played USC's schedule in the B1G.

Turning to ND, the only NEAR-PEER it played in my opinion was A&M. No other opponent was in ND's class, so ND on paper should have prevailed in every game which, but for the NIU implosion, it did. And that includes Indiana. But Georgia and potentially, OSU, Oregon, Texas, PSU and Tennessee WILL ALL BE PEERS. To run some combination of THAT GAMUT is a WHOLE NEW BALL GAME.

So, even as we've seen how poorly Indiana and SMU have stacked up against teams that are DECIDEDLY BETTER, we'll now get to see just how well ND does against one or more teams AS TALENTED AS ITSELF.

Because both the regular season and this first playoff win DID NOT ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

SMU PSU Thread

Agree. Clemson should be in. Same with Arizona St. and Boise St.

However, SMU and Indiana were simply gifted in over South Carolina, Alabama, and even Mississippi.
I saw Alabama lose to NIU (I mean Oklahoma)

I saw Ole Miss lose to NIU (I mean UK)

I saw USCjr lose to NIU (I mean LSU) and almost lose to 5-7 Old Dominion

If they were swerving as you say, they wouldnt have lost 3 games

Deserving or Best?

If CFB truly wants to let the best teams determine playoffs spots on the field they have to adopt the European Soccer model. A top league of 32-48 I prefer 32. That way the best play the best every week.
Using relegation and promotion teams can play their way up and bad teams move down. The schedules would become even and you elimanate the gymnastic judging that plagues cfb.

Deserving or Best?

Let's be honest: so far, it's very clear that Indiana, and SMU can't stack up to the better teams in the country. They just can't. And I know so many here still want to build up Indiana as top 12 team, the truth is despite their record, they're probably not even a top 20 team. Same with SMU. So going forward in years ahead with this playoff, do they take a deserving team like Indiana with just one loss, or do they take a better 3 loss team? You have to admit that the talent at Alabama or Ole Miss is far superior than the talent at Indiana where they have so many James Madison transfers.
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