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Deserving or Best?

NDinNJ
kev2225 said:
Let's be honest: so far, it's very clear that Indiana, and SMU can't stack up to the better teams in the country. They just can't. And I know so many here still want to build up Indiana as top 12 team, the truth is despite their record, they're probably not even a top 20 team. Same with SMU. So going forward in years ahead with this playoff, do they take a deserving team like Indiana with just one loss, or do they take a better 3 loss team? You have to admit that the talent at Alabama or Ole Miss is far superior than the talent at Indiana where they have so many James Madison transfers.
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Talent vs Coaching. You can have all the talent in the world and yet, those teams lose multiple games. Coaching plays a factor into this, and a team that's well coached with inferior talent can beat a team with superior talent that isn't coached well or as well.
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mva5580 said:
I would agree. But a lot of people just don’t want to face that reality.

But again, I don’t have a problem with conference champs getting in. That’s fine. But when the overall quality of the conference is OBVIOUSLY below others then sorry….if the 5th best (or whatever) team from the SEC is better than the 2nd best team from the ACC, then that’s who should be in.
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Agree. Clemson should be in. Same with Arizona St. and Boise St.

However, SMU and Indiana were simply gifted in over South Carolina, Alabama, and even Mississippi.
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Deserving or Best?

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Let's be honest: so far, it's very clear that Indiana, and SMU can't stack up to the better teams in the country. They just can't. And I know so many here still want to build up Indiana as top 12 team, the truth is despite their record, they're probably not even a top 20 team. Same with SMU. So going forward in years ahead with this playoff, do they take a deserving team like Indiana with just one loss, or do they take a better 3 loss team? You have to admit that the talent at Alabama or Ole Miss is far superior than the talent at Indiana where they have so many James Madison transfers.
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Like I said IU is not one of ND's toughest opponents, maybe 5th or 6th

NDinNJ
Zorich 88 said:
1. 6-6 vs 11-1. I would agree if SC did not change anything. They have a new QB, that is the difference. They would beat IU with the new QB.

2. Environment? Really? You wanna use that excuse??? They only had 3 points points for 90% of the game because of environment? No, they only had 3 points because they had a garbage schedule and were proven to be pretenders that did not belong in the playoffs.

3. SC destroyed the ND secondary and that had nothing to do with playing Army and travel time. Come on man, you are better than that. The QB killed ND period. Unlike the IU QB last night.

4. No Cross vs SC. Ok, so cross would have kept SC to 450 yards instead of 550. Come on man, SC had almost 600 total yards on ND. IU was under 200 for 90% of the game.

5. A really good defense? Nope, the game was never close. The game was never in doubt. Watching college game day as we speak. Kirk and Nick are both saying IU did not belong on that field. The are even questioning the SOS of IU. Once Spindler went out the run game struggled, to use your player excuses.
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I have to agree with Golson on this. I was at the game as well. USC has more talent than IU, but IU is a much more disciplined and well coached team than USC.
Talent wise SC is far superior to IU, but IU is getting coached up which makes them a better team.
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Anyone here listening to College Game Day this morning?

graceh90
tkirish said:
Winning shuts everyone up. Georgia is the measuring stick. Gotta win that game. They are due
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I wish that were true. Notre Dame has been winning for 10 years now and people still consider every win to be fraudulent.

I think ND could win the national championship this year and there would be discussion about how this was a down year for everyone and the national champion was less worthy.

Haters gonna hate
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Loved Freeman with the sideline reporter stating that ND would let their play on the field do their talking. Was that a shot at the Indiana big mouth? Lets face it they played 2 good teams all year and lost badly to both. Congrats on not being the same old Indiana but had Oregon and Penn State been on their big ten schedule along with OSU they would not have been in the play off discussion.
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Way to many negative plays

NDinNJ
The defense is going to carry this ND team as far as it goes. The offense will be asked to do enough to win the game. Saying it all year, the offense is one dimensional.
Riley Leonard isn't a good passing QB, he's very average if not below average. I was at the game and we were seeing open receivers and literally saying there it is and it took RL 2-3 seconds after we said it to throw it.
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mva5580 said:
And Notre Dame lost to Northern Illinois.

If SMU was in the SEC they MIGHT win 6 games. And you know it. The 2 teams you’re comparing aren’t playing comparable competition.

I don’t have a problem with the ACC champion being in the playoff. But this season, the ACC is not on the same level as other conferences. They’re just not. Pick the BEST 12 teams and stop being worried about offending people.
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Right ND lost to NIU. And then they didn’t lose another game. SMU went 11-1 while facing 10 Power 4 opponents. Alabama went 9-3 while facing 9 Power 4 opponents.

SMU then played an 11th Power 4 opponent and lost by a very slim margin and this was an extra game that Alabama did not have to play.

Picking the best teams is very subjective. I’d prefer to pick the best résumé’s — because these are accomplished facts.

I don’t know or necessarily think that SMU would only maybe win 6 games in the SEC. Did you see Miami beat up Florida and GT handle Georgia for most of that game?

These teams are all a lot closer in talent than people realize and I think people should stop treating the SEC like it’s the NFL lite.

Just my respectful opinion. And PSU has gotten some massive plays that don’t normally happen in games.
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sjb75 said:
Indiana, SMU, Boise St., Arizona St., Clemson… none of them are in the playoff is they played in the SEC.
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I would agree. But a lot of people just don’t want to face that reality.

But again, I don’t have a problem with conference champs getting in. That’s fine. But when the overall quality of the conference is OBVIOUSLY below others then sorry….if the 5th best (or whatever) team from the SEC is better than the 2nd best team from the ACC, then that’s who should be in.
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FightingIrish44 said:
They should have been in before Alabama. You’re using information ex post facto. Alabama lost to two 6-6 teams. The committee got it right.

Even in this game, the teams look pretty evenly matched.
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And Notre Dame lost to Northern Illinois.

If SMU was in the SEC they MIGHT win 6 games. And you know it. The 2 teams you’re comparing aren’t playing comparable competition.

I don’t have a problem with the ACC champion being in the playoff. But this season, the ACC is not on the same level as other conferences. They’re just not. Pick the BEST 12 teams and stop being worried about offending people.
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