You guys are all crazy or stupid
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I’d agree that preparation, game planning and adjusting have been lacking in post season
The pocket wasn’t destroyed.
He ran into sacks & had happy feet.
It’s the same thing he did a few other games too this year.
He just simply needs to take a step forward & deliver the ball. Everytime he took a step forward he just took off or ran right into somebody.
Then a change would of been necessary. To get him focused and to get the Clemson defense out of their comfort zone....or a different attempt to
You are right they did. All I’m saying is if you look at who are the elite teams at the moment, ND doesn’t stack up. They need better talent if the goal is a national championship. I’ll take 12-0 every year. I think the coaches and the players would as well but they also want to win it all .
Huh?
He completed 70% agaibst Clemson?
And his flaw that has been pointed out by many is hitting wide open receivers down the field?
When teams bring pressure & you step up in the pocket there is usually somebody open down the field. He missed two deep throws to open receivers that would have been TDs & multiple intermediate throws to wide open receivers.
He had a bad game.
I guess it is if you're into nearsited, thoughtless, and downright stupid replies. So much BS floating around this board that it's downright embarrassing!
It was clear to everyone watching the game the offense was stuck in mud. A spark...anything ... could have helped.
You don't get to replay the game. Maybe Kelly thinks there is a do-over in a week.
Just trying to follow the football program, ya know.
Then again it's so bad you just can't resist adding to the embarrassment.
Clemson took Pitt's defensive game plan and executed it with a better front four.
BTW Book was 50% against Clemson and we had 250 yards of total offense.
Glass half full: undefeated season and top five final ranking.
Glass half empty: haven't won a major bowl since 1994 and embarrassed in the playoff for the second time.
Glass half empty: haven't won a major bowl since 1994 and embarrassed in the playoff for the second time.
Well, do you just want to have your horse run in the Kentucky Derby? Is that enough for a true horseman?
Or
Is the true horseman unsatisfied, striving to win the Kentucky Derby.
What kind of glass does he have?
You can’t decide if we deserved to be there after the game, that decision has to be made before the game. There’s no real sensible argument that we didn’t deserve to be there.
You might want to watch the video of the game.
I just watched it in regular and slo-mo replay.
Lawrence had all the time in the world.
Book was blitzed regularly and had nowhere near the time that Lawrence had.
Book didn’t have that bad of a game
How many passes were dropped ?
How many Pass interference calls were made ?
How many pass interference calls weren’t made ?
One that would have been a TD if the DB doesn’t hit the receiver early.
Too many on here have been listening to the announcers and others instead of watching the game again.
You got a point but same scenario next season. Got no problem letting Georgia leaping the Irish.
OK....you ready?
What did I post? Clemson implemented the Pitt game plan but with a better front four.
In other words...Pitt came off the bus blitzing. No difference Saturday night. Clemson said let's see if you make the needed adjustments from that game.
Looky Looky here...they didn't and our offense did nothing.
I do big time. You lose two. You get pummeled by a three loss team. Bye bye. 12-0 gets you in. After the fact judgement doesn't count. Did one single Irish fan say when the playoff four were announced that ND did not belong? Nope.
And you think it’s Book’s fault that the coaching staff didn’t adjust to a blitzing defense ?
I definitely agree with you here....I watched all game long while Lawrence showed emotion(just like the rest of the team), fired up when they made plays. Book was stoic the whole game. As the QB you are the defacto leader of the offense. Not one time did he get the offense together and let them have it for the early mistakes, and to get them focused. The “fire” is needed in big games, and they did not have it. You’re right, it wasn’t just another game..they played like it was.
GA lost their 2 toughest games ... by 20 to LSU ... so explain to me why are they better than ND. I would have thought you'd prove your better by winning games ... just sayin ... oh list GA's best wins????
Point well taken. It is possible to have better talent and still lose. I know it’s an inexact science but if you look at the last 3 or 4 re recruiting classes , Georgia is rated higher. So just from a sheer talent perspective, not going into wins or losses, they have more talent than ND. We could go back and forth all day with this. For me it comes down to one thing. ND has had 6 straight major bowl losses. Those games weren’t even close. I though they had a chance at beating Clemson. As the game went on , you could sense ND really needed an A+ effort to have a shot. Clemson just looked better. Then the bottom fell out and reality set in. Clemson was much better. Fair or not, when ND plays in these high stakes or high profile games, anything less than winning only perpetuates the theory, “ND can’t win big games” . I don’t think they are that far off. 2 top 5 recruiting hauls could be a game changer. It sounds so easy. Kelly and company have struggled getting real top end difference makers. So I don’t know where it can change. You would think an undefeated season would help. This years class is very good but missing some key play makers. We shall see how things go next season. Fingers crossed they can get over the hump in winning a major bowl and on the recruiting trail.
Bama and Clemson we don’t quite match up talent wise and no team does, frankly. Other than those 2 teams we sure as hell do match up. What are you watching? We beat LSU last year bowl game and lost to UGA by 1. Stop with this Oklahoma and Ohio St BS. Were you praising the Buckeye talent when they got beat worse by Purdue than we did by Clemson? Didn’t think so. Tired of this talent disparity bullshit.
Well a lot of other posters who've nothing better to do than follow my posts all day...would disagree. Everyone knows where I've stood on BK all along.
But thank you for chiming in.
Come on. The Buckeyes are loaded. They played horrible against Purdue. It happens. Look what they did to Michigan. Oklahoma, defense, not so good. Offense? Real good. Let’s be clear. This is not personal for me. I respect your opinion and perspective as well as the others here. I’m simply giving my point of view. Like I said earlier. I watch these other teams and I see better athletes. If you disagree, I’m ok with that. You have every right to your opinion. It is just a discussion, nothing more.
That’s fair and I respect your opinion as well. I think ND just played extremely tight again on the biggest stage and the coaching was subpar. No way Clemson is 27 better than ND. They just aren’t. I’m still pissed!!
oh c'mon. he looked to run at the first sign of any pressure. he was squirrly all night. you're gonna get it. if the circumstances have to be perfect for him to be successful he's not very good then.
Who are you? I don't remember seeing your name once all year except after the game and now to jump on the predictable courus of fire Kelly bandwagon trolls.
I hate stress of decisions like this! crazy or stupid... crazy or stupid. So hard to choose!
Maybe on some plays but our offensive line did not play well at all. That was one position that did have to play great but they needed to shoe up. We have the talent there but it appears not to be developing. Time to axe Quinn. I was never a fan of Quinn to begin with.
If you don’t remember seeing my name until AFTER the game, then:
1. You have a terrible memory
2. You lack reading comprehension skills
3. You should lay off the booze
4. All of the above.
