Created it lol. Its what happened and they reported it. You probably believe all politicians and watch CNN
Why can’t anyone believe Ludwig didn’t want the job?
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It was clear he was their choice for the job. That's how the media reported it. Then the obstacle happened (admitted by Jack), then Ludwig had a change of heart. Let's put it this way, If Ludwig doesn't change his mind, he's ND's next OC. If there is no obstacle, maybe Ludwig doesn't change his mind.
Again the media reported what they were being told. That's why you won't see a lawsuit from ND.
Ask Jack. Apparently it had something to do with the buyout. I don't believe it was an issue of ND not wanting to pay the buyout, but something about it paused the process briefly.
And they don’t sell booze on Sunday. And bars are rare. You must order food with a drink at restaurant.
So yes, it appears Freeman and staff were very high on bringing in someone that has a track record like Ludwig, but what about that made the situation "he was all ND until ND screwed it up?" That's what all the morons haven't been able to tell me. Everyone made up their mind from the speculative initial reporting. "Problem with the buyout" did not mean that ND refused to pay it. As a matter of fact, no one knew what it meant, but ND reporters took it there. They basically were reporting that Ludwig signed the dotted line because he went to a hockey game and he was on campus. Their motives behind doing that can be debated. Maybe they were trying to create a story to drive traffic to their websites and message boards during the college football offseason. Personally, I just think that's what journos do, make mountains out of molehills because that is how they are trained.
My whole point is that the ND media were complicit and fabricated all of this negligently. Anyone who is level headed can see this. My other point is that so many posters on the ND message boards make their entire identity about getting pissed off at anything about this football team, so when stuff like this gets reported, they actually thrive off it. It's called confirmation bias. They want this to be true in the worst way. They need to come to these boards to throw their feces to make their lives meaningful. That's the sad reality. And when I call it out and present the logical holes in this entire situation, they all act like adult children of alcoholics.
No. I'm using what reporters who cover the team daily have said across 4 different Notre Dame sites. As well as being confirmed by a couple national reporters. You are using your uninformed opinion. Big difference
SJB75, What the PMIR doesn’t know is whether the report is from one unverified reporting source and just copied and parroted by the other reporters.
In fact, if you think about it, what’s the likelihood that 6, 7 or more reporters were all privy to a confidential negotiation ?
The more likely scenario is that ONE reporter got it wrong and the others merely copied his story line without exercising their own due diligence to verify the authenticity of the first report.
I view Jack Swarbrick as a reliable source and an honest man, which is more than I can say for those accusing him of misrepresenting the facts.
Marcus Freeman PC this morning, and he addressed Andy Ludwig, Klein from Kansas State, and the Notre Dame Administration in general.
You got this right. Journalism across the board in this day and age is more unreliable and rooted in social media echo chambers unfortunately.
I have no idea why he didn't take the job, but a couple of things are clear. First, he was perfect for the job. anjd ND should have pulled out all the stops to get him (i have no idea if they did or not.)
Second, this is NOT a lateral move. Football teams have levels. Urban went from Bowling green to Utah to the SEC, not the other way around. Holtz started at William and Mary and earned hi way to Notre Dame. He didn't start with the Irisn and go back Virginia. Utah has a fine program, but it is no way on the level of ND.
Second, this is NOT a lateral move. Football teams have levels. Urban went from Bowling green to Utah to the SEC, not the other way around. Holtz started at William and Mary and earned hi way to Notre Dame. He didn't start with the Irisn and go back Virginia. Utah has a fine program, but it is no way on the level of ND.
He may have been perfect on paper, but was he perfect for the program and perfect for meshing with the other coaches? I think people misunderstand the importance of this right here. Trying to insert a 58 year old into a predominately younger staff may Be a lot harder than it sounds. “Pulling out all the stops” and having a personality added into the program that doesn’t mesh well with others can derail the culture. I’m not saying this is what happened but just pointing out that these situations are usually more complicated than what us on the outside are observing.
I thought he was a pretty good fit, I gotta say. I don't know shit about his personality, or whether he would fit the 'culture' of ND, and all that bullshit. But his resume was effin' perfect, with so much experience. We could just hand the offense over to this guy, and it's a pretty cool offense by the looks of it, and then let's just go win some football games and get back into the playoff!
Cleanse the palette, wipe the slate clean, the guy appears to be in the prime of his career based on his results at Utah, get a whole new offensive regime all bedded in, and seems like he uses TEs a lot, so that's good for us. We really couldn't ask for any more than this guy brought to the table.
And I agree that ND should have made this happen, which they appear to have effed up somehow....
The guy's 58 and a Utah native. So I can see why he'd decide to stay there. And while Utah doesn't historically have as good a program as ND, right now they have a very good team. They finished in the top 10 last year.
People saying Parker was the third choice. That’s false. Parker was at best 4th choice. Rees, Klein, Ludwig. We just chose not to pay the other 3.
…and one that all parties agreed in principle to the financial terms prior to his arrival at ND.
Do I know Rees is a better OC than Parker, nahh.
Could he be better, yeah. Could he be worse, yeah
Rees was leaving. I don't think the money mattered, and really he needed to go.
I agree. He needs to expand his coaching skills.
He wasn’t interested in a counter after Nick offered. You are correct. And Klein got an immediate promise to stay put.
That spin cannot change the fact that it's a complete failure of leadership. A prominent program was rejected by everyone and had to promote the TE coach.
So Freeman had to settle for his 3rd choice. Big deal. Rees was reportedly Saban's 4th or 5th choice.
No, I think you are ridiculously entertaining. Try to keep up.
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