Really? You blame Kelly for BVG and all the bad hires but Kizer is a product of Sanford and 2012 is Diaco. Get a grip.
Washington vs. Stanford
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Two Rose Bowl Wins.... Against Iowa and Wisconsin, not to mention a loss in the Rose Bowl to MSU (BK beat MSU that same year, handing them there only loss). I'm sorry but screw two rose bowls against Wisky and Iowa. All is not created equal. Bama and Oh St were uncomparable to those two god awful teams. Easy to chalk up two rose bowl wins, Shaw would have got rolled like he did tonight with CG hanging from his waist band with a wad of tissue.
More players in the NFL???? Maybe, but not more trophies in the cabinetHahahaha 44-6 with the best player in the country! Has Kelly ever lost by 38, not to mention a team with lesser talent?
Thank god his wife is amazing, maybe CG can ask him, from his knees, why UW punched him in the mouth and why he can't recruit in the same league as BK, why BK puts more players in the NFL, why he has never played for a natty, never made it to the playoff, his players who rape. This program is a mess
So If coach Kelly were to win 2 Roes Bowls to Iowa and Wisconsin you would of thought those wins to be no big deal???
I call bullshit
Sun Bowl, Fiesta Bowl, Rose Bowl? Who gives a shit. Those don't matter @ ND. Fill that Stanford trophy case. Maybe ND should have fallen short and played Wisky and Iowa instead of Oh St and Bama. No doubt BK would be a crowd favorite with two rose bowls! Haha insane logic from your crew
Absolutely not, I was in Glendale last year and a Fiesta Bowl win wouldn't have meant squat (especially if Iowa is the opponent). The only reason that game meant a lot was that was the most talented team in the country and of course, Urban.
Shaw seems solid, it was not his night. He was away. He had several starters out. The home crowd was loud when they needed to be. They wanted revenge from last year. Sounds a lot like Texas. I doubt Stanford will be 7-5 this year. CFB is tough. Lots of emotion and player injuries can make a great season terrible. Shaw is a top 10 coach no doubt. Sometimes in CFB the best team and coach does not win.....ND in 93 vs. BC. You play that game 10 times and ND is 9-1.
I missed the facts? Kelly gets no props for Diaco and Sanford but killed for BVG... Makes sense.
ND doesn't gauge their success on how many NC's another coach has won, or not do they?
I never gave coach Kelly crap about the assistants he hires
In fact I have always stated that was his strong points
Not at all. I think Kelly recruits well enough to be in the playoff picture every year. He has out-recruited Shaw and Dantonio every year, and yet those two teams are knocking on the door more often than us.
Bottom line... If you're going to assume the coordinator is a product of the coach, as you do BVG, then Sanford and Diaco go straight to Kelly's credit. You can't pick and choose, that's flat out asinine. "BK won in 2012 on Diaco's defense."
"Kizer is developed because of Sanford."
If the successes of these coordinators doesn't get accredited to BK then why would the failures? The rational is pathetic.. At best
"Kizer is developed because of Sanford."
If the successes of these coordinators doesn't get accredited to BK then why would the failures? The rational is pathetic.. At best
This board seems to compare ND to Stanford daily and their coach. He isn't better than BK and would be wildly unsuccessful here. Like I said two rose bowl wins against Iowa and Wisky wouldn't keep you happy.
It wasn't a gauge of ND's success, clearly buy rather the coach comparison. That should have been clear.
They also lost by 24 last week and by 38 to Bama last year. If you watched that Oh St game last year, you know the 'mythical Urban' flat out cost them the game. You want Dantonio here? Not me
Iowa and Wisconsin were two ranked teams that probably ended up ranked higher than us in a season where Stanford already beat us. What's your point? We do less with more.
OK Kelly won on Diacos defense (No NC) what's your point
My Point is You've stated winning NC's is all that matters right?
7 yrs and counting how much longer you willing to wait?
Winning Mayor Bowls may not be ideal,. but it is gauging you are going in the right direction
what are you basing coach Kelly is better on?
How do you know he wouldn't win here?
You do understand why some like me on this board uses Stanford as the Blue Print don't you?
That would be a huge point for the anti Kelly crew, if he wasn't putting guys in the league. There seems to be a divide amongst the CGVR/Pers. either he doesn't recruit well enough or he doesn't develop the kids. Well, one or the other if false due to the NFL representation. And I say both.
He is no doubt failing to put together strings of successful seasons like the programs ND fans aspire to be. Bottom line is, only two coaches do that and they are both elite and at programs that allow them to be what they are.
well no shit, they play in the B10. The point is, would losing by 24 and 38 be acceptable at ND? No. The message boards Would be a flurry. And who's to say Dantonio can't recruit @ND like BK? He doesn't recruit that well @ MSU with better finishes, more lenient admissions. Not to mention, the previous 3 coAches @ND didn't recruit this well. As much as I respect Dantonio as a coach, it's an awful fit and something I wouldn't clamor after.
Why? I don't. I don't aspire to win Rose Bowls, beat up on the PAC 12 when USC/Oregon are down. I don't aspire to recruit outside the top 15, I don't aspire to have never made a playoff, I don't aspire to have not played for the NC in the last 4 years, or ever? Sorry, don't see the appeal.
My opinion whether he'd be successful here or not is irrelevant. Because the reality..truth is he isn't coming here and I highly doubt JS has reached out to him. The thing that boggles me most is the desire to can BK when there is NO clear solution. Is there one realistic hire out there?
Bodizephax
I've posted how many times?
I call bullshit on you being a Notre Dame fan. You are always hating on ND. Brian Kelly is more of a man than you ever will be,
If Shaw's last 6 seasons are the blue print, well his head will be called for. As we're seeing with BK. You can't do what he's doing @ ND and be called successful.. Just like how BK is under fire, the blue print would be in flames as well. You really think if ND were to trade seasons with Stanford, the fans would be happy? I don't and BK has shown a higher ceiling and he doesn't have a tie in to the rose,
Here comes wonder boy to defend the love of his life after a 44-6 ass whipping at the hands of a program that's done nothing in 15 years.
2 Rose Bowl wins? One of over an 8-6 Wisconsin team that was only there because OSU was on probation. ND beat Stanford that year BTW
And one last year over Big 10 Champ game loser Iowa because MSU was in the playoffs.
The one time Stanford played the actual Big 10 champ they lost.
If your going to come on here and wave your Stanford pom poms when the win. Take your ass whipping when they lose. It's called being a man. Give it a try.
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Except if it happened to ND and Brian Kelly. Then it wouldn't be "oh well". It would be Kelly is not the guy and anyone who thinks he is a Kool Aid drinker.
You and your "friends" hold Stanford up as the gold standard. And your gold standard program got demolished. And furthermore "we" (ND fans) have proven factually beyond a shadow of a doubt Stanford is not the gold standard or a blueprint to anything.other than never playing for a National Title.
However watching your little sewing circle scramble to make excuses after a 44-6 tail kicking is quite humorous. Time to jump on Harbaugh's jock strap next right?
Let's see....
Some of the above lunacy....
#1 nobody really knows just amazingly good Washington is or isn't. You can spout off Stanford was overrated...but in reality you've no clue.
#2 Standford on whole had one of those square peg in round Hole games.
Some of the above lunacy....
#1 nobody really knows just amazingly good Washington is or isn't. You can spout off Stanford was overrated...but in reality you've no clue.
#2 Standford on whole had one of those square peg in round Hole games.
Their defense reminds me of the Seahawks. They play fast, aggressive and fundamentally sound.
