221 yards of total offense? Really?? No shit??? By what ****ing metric in the history of the sport regardless of the circumstances is that even an average game for a QB???????????? Pay attention to the thread or STFU!
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Their a top 5 team????...pay attention to the thread...Their QB is worse than Leonard...no they are not an elite team! Stfu!!!
You are removing 2 playoff teams from the equation? How about Miami? Are they out too? And Indiana? Remove them?
Then we're down to 7 teams, right?
If the OL plays well against any of those teams, RL will play well. If the OL struggles against any of those teams, RL will struggle too
You said we haven't played 1 team that's close to what we will face to win a NC
Thats inaccurate. Their defense is of the level of many NC contenders
So try to comprehend or just STFU
That was a very stupid response from you. Try to keep up or again, STFU !!
Their not making the playoffs idiot so no wrong again. And I clearly stated in my first post the teams were talking about is the top 5 and what will happen with the game on the line! Again try to follow along little man with the little 🧠!
Doesn't matter if they make the playoffs, they have defensive talent like we will be facing in the playoff. I dont care if they make it or don't.
I'm sorry I'm not terrified of penn state like you seem to be lol
Pansy ass
Well then, I guess we're going to lose then. There's nothing to be done about it now. We're not switching QBs. And I don't think outsiders hate ND fans because they refuse to bitch and moan about their QB's passing deficiencies. That's just not one of the reasons.
Who's afraid of PSU maybe in a locker room but, c'mon man here's the teams...Oregon, OSU, Texas, Alabama, Georgia & maybe Ole Miss & Miami...the way he throws the ball we have no chance on a neutral site especially with all the injuries! It's not happening but, if it does and he's the difference I will be the happiest ND fan in the world and gladly leave!!🍀
It's the delusion they can't stand and it doesn't just pertain to whether or not RL can throw a football better than me...JFC is it really that hard to understand what's being said and why?
And Bryce flipped to LSU even though you said he wouldn’t….time for you to complain more about ND.
Quick question..how many NCs has Oregon won?
Miami 🤣🤣🤣 Here's the teams....then includes Miami. Thanks for the laugh boss.
Texas....oh no, not mighty Texas with their big win being Vanderbilt. How can we compete with a team that struggles with Vandy. Oh noooo
Rel question, no BS. What has Texas done to be put in that category when you say we can't compete with them. Seriously.
There's no team on there that you put that we can't beat. There is no elite team this year
Haha. Sounds like you are the accountant for Cackle’s campaign
Hello kettle. When you go a day without mentioning Kelly’s contract value, or the NIU loss….then you can post above. Until then, get bent
Delusional 1%! I'm out your a ****ing clueless child! Tell us all again about Riley's first round talent👨🦯
Tell us how we can't compete with mighty Miami Hurricanes 🤣🤣
Didn't they get beat by GT who we beat? They beat VT and Cal by 5 points combined
I mean how can we possibly compete with that
Aww you got in your feelings. Go run away you tool
We got tools to answer this question. That's why F+ and other advanced ranking systems exist.
Despite the head to head loss Texas has done more vs their schedule than Georgia has vs theirs which is why F+ has them rated higher.
Texas has 11 five star players on their 85 man roster to NDs 1 five star player.
Texas is the #2 team in F+ through week 12 to NDs #8 F+ rank. Texas has the #1 defense to NDs #3 defense (but they also have a top 10 offense as well)
Am I the only person on this forum who gets really fed up with people doubling down/ arguing in the face of ever mounting evidence against their point of view? Only to return weeks later (after the evidence/data is proven correct) to continue to argue in the face of the evidence again and again and again (even with the benefit of hindsight)?
At what point does your desire for reality kick in and become more important than your ego?
You forgot one thing, I don't give a shit about F+. I think it's an embarrassment to ranking systems
I stopped reading when you used that as an example
1%...and someone who has never seen elite NC' ND football! I get it now!! Sad you have no idea, you never saw these guys in ND stadium or 27 other CFB stadiums around the country...you know guy's like Ross Browner or Luther Bradley or Joe Montana or Tim Brown or Rocket Ismail or Jerome Bettis or Bryant Young and I could go on and on and on! Hold onto your RL.
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Their QB makes RL look like he's in POP Warner running QB sweeps GTFOH, Little man!
Do you think that ND would be 10-0 right now if Freeman had just started Angeli like you wanted, and that anyone who knows anything would agree with you?
I never said I wanted Angeli to start, I'm just pointing out a QB that can't pass when needed in 2025 is not winning ND a NC! The NC QB CJ Carr hopefully will be starting next year. The bottom line is RL is not first round talent and will not be able to make that 3rd & 10 against OSU, Oregon, Texas, Alabama or Georgia w/ the game on the line in a semifinal game hypothetically that he can even get us there. That's it, that's all, he's just not a good enough QB, period! The idiots that keep denying this again make up about 1% and make all other ND fans look like idiots.
I don't consider the A&M defense elite yet. Very good yes but not elite. Maybe in a year or 2 they will be. What I was really trying to say is that I believe we have better QBs sitting on the bench so more NIL money won't solve coaching choices of who to play and who not to play. RL got NIL money and we lost to NIU with less talent so giving more NIL money isn't always the solution. Maybe with a few key players it is but not across the board. In other words the team that pays out the most NIL isn't guaranteed a championship. Too many other factors.
We don't have better QBs sitting on the bench. Definitely not this year. Our top QBs on the bench are freshman and a sophomore and this isn't an easy offense to just pick up. And we need RLs legs with our OL situation.
That's the part you are missing
They probably could be, and maybe would be. Assuming we beat A&M with Angeli, we probably would have beaten NIU, just because we would have, because almost any improvement in that game offensively would have resulted in a win. That's how close the game was, and how shitty NIU is. Maybe Louisville would have beaten us, that's possible too.
So RL is definitely the starting QB and no complaints or regrets. Personally, I'm fired up about him after a sluggish start. But yeah, we could be 10-0 with Angeli, very easily, very likely. What we could have done, should have done, is bench RL in the NIU game, and let Angeli pull out the win. With a presumed better passing game. The exact same way A&M beat LSU. And then just put RL back into the starting lineup. As a coach you're allowed to do that. So that would've been cool.
Some would argue with you that the St Clair kid is. Can't go wrong with Underwood or St Clair.
That's my 1 and 2. With Deuce Knight being the freak who if he develops can be number 1
Never, he's a good QB but, he's not leading ND to a NC ever! Carr has a chance to be special but, he has to stay healthy.
Fair enough but he’s likely not leading ND to a title just based on odds of winning four in a row, and that ND has been beaten up injury wise.
