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[Pennick4]

We got tools to answer this question. That's why F+ and other advanced ranking systems exist.

Despite the head to head loss Texas has done more vs their schedule than Georgia has vs theirs which is why F+ has them rated higher.

Texas has 11 five star players on their 85 man roster to NDs 1 five star player.

Texas is the #2 team in F+ through week 12 to NDs #8 F+ rank. Texas has the #1 defense to NDs #3 defense (but they also have a top 10 offense as well)

Am I the only person on this forum who gets really fed up with people doubling down/ arguing in the face of ever mounting evidence against their point of view? Only to return weeks later (after the evidence/data is proven correct) to continue to argue in the face of the evidence again and again and again (even with the benefit of hindsight)?

At what point does your desire for reality kick in and become more important than your ego?

Yawn

 

[Pennick4]

I never said I wanted Angeli to start, I'm just pointing out a QB that can't pass when needed in 2025 is not winning ND a NC! The NC QB CJ Carr hopefully will be starting next year. The bottom line is RL is not first round talent and will not be able to make that 3rd & 10 against OSU, Oregon, Texas, Alabama or Georgia w/ the game on the line in a semifinal game hypothetically that he can even get us there. That's it, that's all, he's just not a good enough QB, period! The idiots that keep denying this again make up about 1% and make all other ND fans look like idiots.

Yawn

 

[IrishMike409]

You will see. When we play a real team with a real defense you will see. He can't throw an accurate long ball which neutralizes Faison's speed.

Really? The offense isn't built around Faison.

It's run-heavy system, with 4 high-end runners coming at you all damn game. Since NIU, no one has been able to stop it.

Really......we're going in reverse back to the Leonard v Angeli arguments? It's been settled. But not by me or anyone here. Leonard has settled it. He's clearly played well enough to secure the role.

We're primed for a deep playoff run, and people still want to cut down Riley Leonard....?

 

[IrishMike409]

1%...and someone who has never seen elite NC' ND football! I get it now!! Sad you have no idea, you never saw these guys in ND stadium or 27 other CFB stadiums around the country...you know guy's like Ross Browner or Luther Bradley or Joe Montana or Tim Brown or Rocket Ismail or Jerome Bettis or Bryant Young and I could go on and on and on! Hold onto your RL.

You've lost it.

Sounds like you were under the influence of something. Go get cleaned up man. That's an ugly look.

 

[hoopsstar12]

Really? The offense isn't built around Faison.

It's run-heavy system, with 4 high-end runners coming at you all damn game. Since NIU, no one has been able to stop it.

Really......we're going in reverse back to the Leonard v Angeli arguments? It's been settled. But not by me or anyone here. Leonard has settled it. He's clearly played well enough to secure the role.

We're primed for a deep playoff run, and people still want to cut down Riley Leonard....?

1) The season isn't over yet.
2) Our opponents are weak.
3) If there is no deep ball threat the D can stack the box and cover all the receivers and tight ends and stop the Leonard run.
4) Georgia, Alabama, Texas and Ohio State aren't Navy, FSU, Stanford, and Purdue
5) Angeli should be the starter with Minchey or Carr as #2. RL should only be used in running or goal line situations.

 

[Golson5]

1) The season isn't over yet.
2) Our opponents are weak.
3) If there is no deep ball threat the D can stack the box and cover all the receivers and tight ends and stop the Leonard run.
4) Georgia, Alabama, Texas and Ohio State aren't Navy, FSU, Stanford, and Purdue
5) Angeli should be the starter with Minchey or Carr as #2. RL should only be used in running or goal line situations.

🤣🤣🤣

 

[futuredomer]

You've lost it.

Sounds like you were under the influence of something. Go get cleaned up man. That's an ugly look.

🥱

 

[futuredomer]

You said we haven't played 1 team that's close to what we will face to win a NC

Thats inaccurate. Their defense is of the level of many NC contenders

So try to comprehend or just STFU

That was a very stupid response from you. Try to keep up or again, STFU !!

Texas A & M😎...your still undefeated for STUPIDITY!

 

[Golson5]

Texas A & M😎...your still undefeated for STUPIDITY!

MIAMI 🤣🤣

 

[futuredomer]

MIAMI 🤣🤣

10-1 42-14
8-3 getting blasted by a 4-6 team
STFU YOU STUPID MOTHER****ER!!!!!!!!

 

[Golson5]

10-1 42-14
8-3 getting blasted by a 4-6 team
STFU YOU STUPID MOTHER****ER!!!!!!!!

Texas am is now tied

While the team you said we couldn't compete with Bama.....is down 24 to 3

Spoke a little too soon there huh Lil BUDDY

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

 

[Golson5]

I agree. Depending on how the bracket shakes out we might not see one of those top 5-6 teams until the last round or two. But what value is there in winning a couple of rounds of playoff games only to be a major underdog at some point and predictably get beat ?

I guess i'd rather watch ND win some playoff games than not, but at what point does ND do what it takes to bridge the gap so that they have more of a 50-50 chance instead of a 30-70 chance when they inevitably run into a higher tier team?

And for the record here is how i would 'tier' the playoff level teams through week 12 (using F+):

tier 1: OSU
tier 2: Oregon, Texas, Alabama, Ole Miss
tier 3: Georgia, PSU, Notre Dame
tier 4: Indiana, Miami, Tennessee, South Carolina, Texas A&M, Clemson

ND is a back end tier 3 team (and would be an underdog vs all the teams listed ahead of them to one degree or another).

Tier 2 took a beating today huh Chaseboy?

I told you. No dominant teams this year. Parity throughout.

We can beat anyone

 

[Golson5]

10-1 42-14
8-3 getting blasted by a 4-6 team
STFU YOU STUPID MOTHER****ER!!!!!!!!

You still think ND can't compete with mighty Bama and Ole Miss ?

 

[futuredomer]

A&M just can't finish

 

[BGI User 756]

1) The season isn't over yet.
2) Our opponents are weak.
3) If there is no deep ball threat the D can stack the box and cover all the receivers and tight ends and stop the Leonard run.
4) Georgia, Alabama, Texas and Ohio State aren't Navy, FSU, Stanford, and Purdue
5) Angeli should be the starter with Minchey or Carr as #2. RL should only be used in running or goal line situations.

Bama scored 3 against Okie defense

They have weaknesses this year

 

[futuredomer]

Go for 2...I don't understand why when you control the outcome of the game especially when you are 4-6 you don't give the kids a chance to win it?

 

[futuredomer]

Let's go A&M td and game over...Auburn should've went for 2 when they scored!

 

[futuredomer]

Terrible play calling!

 

[futuredomer]

He better make this kick or we won't have beaten a ranked team come Monday

 

[Golson5]

He better make this kick or we won't have beaten a ranked team come Monday

What are you talking about. They will still be ranked

 

[futuredomer]

Nice kick

 

[futuredomer]

This OT format is childish

 

[futuredomer]

Unbelievable

 

[futuredomer]

Can't drop that ball, **** A&M!

 

[BGI User 1596]

A&M not a good team.

 

[FightingIrish44]

I wanted them to lose. Screw the overrated SEC. I hear one podcast talking about how awful Freeze is as a coach, now what will they say? Bama got smacked and now A&M lost to crappy Auburn who lost to Cal.

 

[futuredomer]

Who agreed to this OT format??? It's absolutely disgraceful! And why are they rushing the field when the team they just beat will be lucky to be ranked...maybe 24 or 25 and when they lose to Texas ND's best win will be against a 4 loss team!

 

[hoopsstar12]

SOS doesn't matter anymore. If we beat USC we are in by default. Bama fans are gonna run their new coach out of town.

 

[Golson5]

SOS doesn't matter anymore. If we beat USC we are in by default. Bama fans are gonna run their new coach out of town.

Not by default. Because we earned it

 

[hoopsstar12]

Not by default. Because we earned it

1 game to go. That's what I meant. PSU should have lost too. Horrible ref call at the end of the 1st half was the difference in the game.

 

[Pennick4]

1) The season isn't over yet.
2) Our opponents are weak.
3) If there is no deep ball threat the D can stack the box and cover all the receivers and tight ends and stop the Leonard run.
4) Georgia, Alabama, Texas and Ohio State aren't Navy, FSU, Stanford, and Purdue
5) Angeli should be the starter with Minchey or Carr as #2. RL should only be used in running or goal line situations.

The mind is a terrible thing to waste.

 

[BGI User 756]

How did this happen?!

Chass said he was staying with BK

 

[Extirpate 6951]

How did this happen?!

Chass said he was staying with BK

A few bags of cash called NIL.

 

[BGI User 756]

A few bags of cash called NIL.

No, no, no. Chass (as you already know since you wrote it) said he turned down the $10.5M from Michigan …to stay with BK…so how is that happening?