It's way to early I know but what do you think our record will be this year? I see losses against Clemson, USC and one more team possibly Stanfod or geo Tech.Kelly has also developed a bad habit of losing to a team he shouldn't aka Tulsa,S Florida etc.So I don't see any BCS bowl bids for us.I see us going to a bowl game similar to last years game.
This years record will be........
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I think it is as likely to be 7-5 as it is to be 11-1; but 9-3 is a v good result and of course the time tested 8-4 will met the new standard of excellence. best guess= 9-3
Based on current schedule, and roster
I would say 10-2.
Toss up games:
Texas
at Clemson
GTech
USC
The rest I believe will be wins. And I am actually pretty confident in GTech. Although they are a good team. They replace a lot of bodies this year. And Virginia should be an easy week to lead up to it.
I would say 10-2.
Toss up games:
Texas
at Clemson
GTech
USC
The rest I believe will be wins. And I am actually pretty confident in GTech. Although they are a good team. They replace a lot of bodies this year. And Virginia should be an easy week to lead up to it.
Bodizephax
I've posted how many times?
Not sure how Texas is a toss up game?
We're favored by apart 2 TDs (by Vegas) and are vastly superior on paper. Plus it's at home.
The other 3 I agree with you on, which is why I have the expectation of 10-11 wins this year
Was ND favored against USF? Hey how big of an underdog was ND vs FSU before the season started last year? How close was that score?
Texas is going to stink. I expect ND to blow out the Horns much like they would scUM if they played that trash team again. It's great to see the two most powerful name brands in college football going against each other on September 5 in South Bend.
Go Irish!!!!!!
Go Irish!!!!!!
2 most powerful? Really? Not Ohio State, or Bama, or any other team that made the playoff or has won a title in the last 5 years
ND still carries one of the strongest brands in college football, if not the strongest. Whether it is deserved based on the last twenty plus years is another discussion. Texas May have the largest endowment fund in the country, but question if they are a top ten brand outside of Texas.
That's a very weak argument. Arguing anecdotes against statistics.
Upsets happen, but teams favored by 2+ TDs win the game 95% of the time or more.
This can be more or less true based on factors that effect betting lines (who the teams are, unknowns on the teams, etc)
But for this game, it seems hard to see Texas winning, and Vegas is very clearly reflecting that. Notre Dame has a very high percent chance of winning he game
They had a pretty high % of winning the USF game. And before the season started FSU was a pretty clear cut favorite for the game as well. Not sure why you would say to not use statistics. Then you use a statistic in your first sentence.
ND should beat Texas, but that line is way too high IMO. Two TDs would be more fitting if you were playing Texas State. Strong did a good job at Louisville with less talent. If the Horns are not greatly improved this season he may be gone in January. Also, upsets are more likely to happen the first week before multiple losses have led some players to pack it in for the year.
ND by 5.
ND by 5.
I'm saying that you're not usin statistics. You're using anecdotal evidence of the relatively few times that games went against such heavy odds as evidence that the Texas game should be a tough game. That's a bad argument.
The reality is that games where a teams favored this heavily usually result in that team winning.
When you look at the Texas game specifically, that appears to be evenore true for this game (with already long odds)
An upset is always possible, but there is really no reason to look at this game and expect ND to do anything but win
Bodizephax
I've posted how many times?
I'm a ND fan. I never expect ND to win. I just hope that they do. If the last 20 some years has taught us anything it is how things can go wrong, more then right.
However that said. You have to be realistic. You have no idea what Texas will march out of the tunnel with. On paper ND is superior in almost every aspect of the game. From running to blocking, QB, LB, etc. However You don't know what Strong will have these kids doing. For that reason I don't go by odds. I think it is a stupid move to do.
Statistically, you're wrong. Ignoring the odds would be the stupid move, based on history. They're right FAR more often than they're wrong. You can rooted counter examples, but they're the exceptions that prove the rule, and the numbers bare that out.
Beyond that, yes we so know what Texas will be coming out with. We know their roster, we watched most of them last year, watched them in the spring game, and well get to watch them again this fall.
There are always unknowns and surprises, but so far in this thread, basically the only thing you've said that's true is that ND is better than Texas in virtually every phase of the game (on paper), is HEAVILY favored because of this, and should win this game
You know what. In the fairness of not wanting to talk to you about it anymore.
You are correct. You have never been wrong in any thing you have said on these boards. Not even 2 years ago when you said ND would win by 2 TD's vs Michigan. Under the last handle before we banned that one. For now on I will call you every week for the lottery numbers. After all you have all the answers.
Tell me more about how betting the money line against a 12.5 point spread is the smart play?
Can you stay in that topic, or are you ready to bail off that opinion??
I know you're jacked about being the free board mod, but that doesn't mean people can't point out when you put an uneducated opinion out there without any backing.
At this point what we've established:
1.) Vegas HEAVILY favors ND over Texas
2.) Even you admit that ND is superior in every phase of the game, on paper
Given that, it's pretty obvious this is a game ND SHOULD win and it's a very high percentage that they will
Obviously upsets can happen, but this isn't a game that looks especially scary (as you tried to paint it)
but stats!
Upsets never happen because the stats say so. Right, it is the stats, the stats are important. If you look at the stats, the stats tell you the outcome. It is just the stats, just use the stats, can't you just tell the stats! Like I said, you are wrong as often as you are right. You bark and talk about how you got it all figured out. And like a blind squirrel that finds an acorn you beat your chest when you get one right. And when you get one wrong you disappear.
You can bang your fists on the table all you want, it won't do you any good.
It's already become obvious that even you know that ND is the superior team (on paper) and that all the experts that's handicap tha game see ND as a HEAVY favorite and very likely to win the game.
At this point your "Texas is a toss up game" comment has been fully exposed (with your own help and admission) and your just throwing a temper tantrum about it.
It's possible that ND coukd lose, but it's very unlikely (not at all a toss up) and everyone competent who knows anything about the teams reflects that.
It's time to admit you seriously exaggerated, tried to save face with a childish argument, and finally turned flat out bitter...and then just quietly walk away from this one
Not one of your more thought out posts/threads
UT should shw improvement, but that is gonna be a young team and a work in process when they get to ND.
Not a blowout but ND in command from the start: very steady W.
Not a blowout but ND in command from the start: very steady W.
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