To be clear my argument isn't really about what LSU has done in their first two years under Brian Kelly (although the evidence is really good in his favor) but more about what it looks like they're about to do going forward with the quality of players they have incoming in this 2025 class.
We were 8th and LSU was 9th in the final F+ ranking this past season, and both teams went 10-3. So our seasons were actually quite similar in that regard. Although our teams were very different, as their offense was better and our defense was better.
The eveidence is not as good as you think. We'll see if they all stick when they lose 3 to 4 games this season. Their 5 star wr is still taking visits
Not really. LSU has always attracted top talent. It’s not necessarily due to BK
When Notre Dame signs a good 2025 recruit, you do back flips.
Notre Dame had more NFL draft picks than LSU.
I didn't say LSU wasn't recruiting at an elite level and they should be excited and I would too if I was an LSU fan
No, not quite. 11 wins would have been about right. So he didn't maximize the talent we had
They had a truly horrible defense. He's the coach, so he has to answer for everything. But that was a playoff-caliber offense at least, and just a top 25 type defense, rather than one of the worst P5 defenses out there it seemed like, and he finally might have got his elusive MNC....
I think both can be true at the same time.
WOW, top 10 in your stupid F+ meaningless bull shit
Was it BK's job to educate those recruits back in the day on the success of his player development so they had respect for his accomplishments? I assume it was, so, was Brian Kelly sleeping on the job RE: Recruiting, while at ND? Or was a 17yr old kid supposed to discern all this on their own? Or, I guess you'll say, that wasn't Kelly's job here - someone else was supposed to educate them on his developmental prowess.
TD, my hope is that MF is better. I’ll just say yes , better ( based on nothing other than my hope)
True. If I am being honest , Kelly is better at this stage. There is no substitute for expierence. He has that and then some. However, you gotta start somewhere and MF is definitely getting better.
Wait what? Did we forget that this is the coach that players had to complain about and some said they never even talked to or saw around the program.
I'm giving him a very small amount of credit only because he signed the players other than JJB.
Just giving you a hard time for supporting chase...
They weren't the #2 and #7 pick before BK got there. He developed them into elite players. That's why they now have the #1 RB, #1 WR, and #1 QB prospect secured in the 2025 class (all 5-star top 15 overall players)
LSU finished 10-3 while Mississippi finished 11-2.
The exercise that you are doing in the first half of this post (who beat who and by how much) is what F+ does but far more comprehensively. And F+ had LSU as the better team by a comfortable margin.
They both went 6-2 in the SEC. Both lost to Alabama by 14. So I'd say they were pretty even, but I'd have to give the nod to Ole Miss, because they won HTH.
They don't have to play in a hypothetical matchup. They played. Ole Miss won
The team that wins in a single head-to-head game isn't always the better team.
True but LSU only lost the turnover battle 1-0 while Ole Miss out-gained them by 69 yards and won. I don’t believe it was a particularly fluky game either.
Better record, head to head win. Ole Miss was better last year
They didnt have a better record to go along with the head to head
I think what's shocking to me is Freeman's first Defensive class was the 2022 class. BenMo is a stud and obviously will get drafted. No one else is close to a sure thing. If sneed puts it together he's probable and could go early, and maybe burnham as a late draft pick one day. After that, nothing. Mickey is probably 3rd DB this year.
