as stated in another tread this game was a lot like Alabama and ole miss. Alabama was the better team and after a good week they are right back in the picture. If they take care of business the next 2 weeks and Stanford does as well that could be a huge win and they will probably heated the pac 12 champ. Sec will get one. Big ten probably one even though they all look horrible and big 12 one. I could see Clemson getting beat because they did not look all that impressive to me. Especially on offense.
Realistic playoff chances
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ND is Not Bama; no one is.
Navy, USC, Pitt, BC and Stanford all are teams capable of inflicting losses on ND. NONE of those teams would be a threat vs Bama.
playoffs: SEC, Big10, 2 open spots possible the way it looks. But someone has to beat FSU or there is just 1 spot.
Navy, USC, Pitt, BC and Stanford all are teams capable of inflicting losses on ND. NONE of those teams would be a threat vs Bama.
playoffs: SEC, Big10, 2 open spots possible the way it looks. But someone has to beat FSU or there is just 1 spot.
Alabama is right back in the picture because people never wanted them out of the picture in the first place.
Maybe we'll get some consideration again if we beat our next ranked opponent like Bama did...
Lots of football left. As always, nearly everyone loses at some point in the season. If we win out, I still feel hopeful. But that will be tough to do.
Maybe we'll get some consideration again if we beat our next ranked opponent like Bama did...
Lots of football left. As always, nearly everyone loses at some point in the season. If we win out, I still feel hopeful. But that will be tough to do.
Amen - Bama put on a Clinique yesterday in a very hostile place.
Bama is right back in it because they burned the hedges down last night... if they run the table in the west and win the SEC champ game they are in. B12 is going to get a team in as long as it's not a tie at the top. B1G gets a team in leaving 1 spot for Clemson/FSU/USC/UCLA
100% agree that Playoffs are wide open. Only tcu looks impressive so far. most others will also have one loss. ND's was early & close. Next two games are key. navy then socal.
GET BETTER!!!
GET BETTER!!!
It is way to early to start penciling in a final 4. Can ND get back into the conversation? Yes win out and dominate the lesser teams. ND, just like bama, ucla, etc cannot have another loss, simple as that.
LSU
A&M
USC
OKLA
TCU
BAYLOR
CLEMSON
FSU
OHIO ST
MICH ST
BAMA
FLORIDA
think NDs loss puts them behind these teams granted they all play each other so there is room to move if ND handles buisness.
A&M
USC
OKLA
TCU
BAYLOR
CLEMSON
FSU
OHIO ST
MICH ST
BAMA
FLORIDA
think NDs loss puts them behind these teams granted they all play each other so there is room to move if ND handles buisness.
The committee gave osu the benefit last year with a close loss to Va tech at their place with a young qb. Will the same scenario play out this year? We will have to wait and see.
GO IRISH DESTROY navy.....
GO IRISH DESTROY navy.....
OSU also destroyed a very good Wisconsin team in the conference championship.
I personally think ND is out of the running with this loss, .
There's a lot of football yet to be played. As we saw yesterday there will be surprises every week.
Ole Miss got blown out. Georgia the same. UCLA lost. Ohio St. barely escaped INDIANA. Michigan St. barely escaped Purdue.
ND has to win out to have a chance, but I believe that can happen.
Ole Miss got blown out. Georgia the same. UCLA lost. Ohio St. barely escaped INDIANA. Michigan St. barely escaped Purdue.
ND has to win out to have a chance, but I believe that can happen.
ND's changes are zero, being Indy has its advantages and disadvantages, USC & Stanford are tough games but not elite. Figure one BIG team makes it, Sparty or Brutus. LSU getting Bama at home and running the table. take your pick of Baylor, TCU or Oklahoma. Than that leaves one open spot for a second SEC or Acc Clemson or FSU, I just don't see ND Leepfrogging all those teams. Plus a large majority of those teams will get a conference champ game to showcase their resume while ND is idle. Face it, if O$U doesn't pound Wiscy 50-0 last year, not sure they make the playoff.
Move on to 2016, too many injuries to overcome, few teams are elite minus 6 starters.
Move on to 2016, too many injuries to overcome, few teams are elite minus 6 starters.
ND will have to join a conference in order to get in .... even if you win out ... if a lot of other teams have losses but play in a conference championship, well that makes their schedule resume that much better and will set them apart for you all
Another NoleTroll! Not true, ND plays a far tougher SOS than anything in the ACC, Big Ten or Pac 12 and with one loss teams they will get in before those conferences given the close loss to Clemson in a monsoon early in the season.
Dude just Google 2015 SOS once before you post such craziness... NDs sos right now is in the 60s behind multiple teams from each of those conferences
ND is pretty much out of it because of conference championships . Baylor is probably not going to lose. Oklahoma has to go to Waco this year. The Sec champ is in. I dont see that Clemson team beating Florida St. inspite of Golson, they don't have enough on outside to effectively stretch though field without Williams. That leaves one more spot. The Pac 12 winner or Big 10 winner is in. Only chance for ND is to not lose a game, and hope Utah loses to either USC or Stanford along the way and everyone in the Big 10 gets multiple losses.
Another NoleTroll! Not true, ND plays a far tougher SOS than anything in the ACC, Big Ten or Pac 12 and with one loss teams they will get in before those conferences given the close loss to Clemson in a monsoon early in the season.
Don't see this as a "troll" response at all. Keep in mind that many of the selection committee members are tied into P5 conference members and view ND choice to stay out of a conference so they don't have to share revenues and profits with other conference members as greed. If it comes down to filling the final spot between 1-loss ND and other P% members, take an educated guess who they're going to select. Not a NoleTroll response at all.
Don't see this as a "troll" response at all. Keep in mind that many of the selection committee members are tied into P5 conference members and view ND choice to stay out of a conference so they don't have to share revenues and profits with other conference members as greed. If it comes down to filling the final spot between 1-loss ND and other P% members, take an educated guess who they're going to select. Not a NoleTroll response at all.
you guys can take FSU out of the mix. they have easily 2-3 losses coming this year . i don't know how in the world you guys made the NCCC with Golson at QB. that guy is horrible.
The defense in 2012 really carried that team. Golson managed the offense, and had some good moments that year (PITT is an example) - but, it really was Manti Teo and group who carried (and willed) that team to a 12-0 record.
ND will be in #5 if beat Clemson. Right now ND is in #15. Too late for ND go in top 4 this year with lost to Clemson.
If ND go for 11-1 then ND can go to BCS game. Clemson is happy with long night with the Rain..
If ND go for 11-1 then ND can go to BCS game. Clemson is happy with long night with the Rain..
Remember that Ole Miss has to lose another conference game. Rebs own the tie breaker over the Tide in the West standings. I am not sure any conference will get a 2nd team into the playoff.
I thought about creating a thread for this thought but it would be redundant with this thread. Personally, i think the playoff chances for ND are 100/1 at best, if not OVER. We needed to go undefeated and leave NO DOUBT. With ND being an independent it would mean 2 conferences would get left out not just 1. You know an SEC team will get 1 of the spots. Its likely that the Big 10 will get 1 as well. If Clemson were to win the ACC that would leave 1 spot left. If they dont and FSU does, it would be hard to get in over them when we lost head to head. Also right now it looks like TCU or Baylor will get in this time, they arent leaving them out 2 yrs in a row. This is completely ignoring the Pac-12 right now. If Utah were to lose i see them being the odd man out this year. If Utah were to win out they will get in.
Moral of the story we have to win out and hope for alot of teams to lose for us to have any shot.
Moral of the story we have to win out and hope for alot of teams to lose for us to have any shot.
agree with this 100%... if anyone watched that game, Bama's kids looked like NFL players all over the field. they are big and fast and the only reason they lost this season is because the one position, which is the most important, is not really secure with them and that is QB. If they had a better quarterback last year they would have beaten Ohio, in reality they lost that game more than Ohio won it, and this year if they get the same play from Coker the rest of the year they will be hard to stop. That running back is a beast, I would love to see ND run the ball like that but it isn't Kelly's style and he will never change his style unfortunately.
furthermore, even if we won out we probably wouldn't get in but I am not worried about that right now... I am more worried about whether we can bounce back and beat a strong USC team that I believe is better than Clemson. Navy always gives a hard time, even when they shouldn't, and both BC and Temple are also decent teams. I said before the season we would win 9-10 with Malik and I think Kizer has shown a lot of toughness so I will stick with 10. He needs to improve his accuracy but I really respect his overall talent and if can get that down as well as the ability to check down with his receivers he will be a stud. I will be thrilled with 11 wins but I would be very happy with 10 plus a bowl win for 11 total, we have had another injury filled season as well as losing some keys players for other reasons.
Nix, tuitt, te'o, and our secondary wasn't so porous....some bizarre decisions by other coaches at times...Pitt game, Stanford game....potentially a helpful call here and there....Pitt (two players on field attempt with same number) Stanford( was he in or not)
Golson was not any reason whatsoever we went 12-0
Matter of fact he has to be relieved sever times that year by Tommy Rees
This ^ our defense was what took us to that title game and people seem to forget that Golson needed help from Rees in at least 2 games but maybe 3, can't recall. At the same time, to be fair to Golson, he was a freshmen and I like him overall. I don't want FSU to ever win but I hope does well with whatever happens.
The problem isn't beat us (USC) or Stanford. Those are in your control. The issue is that if SC and Stanford lose again, with a 12 game schedule, you won't get enough of a boost to make the playoffs. You need to beat a one-loss UC and Stanford, that you can't control.
ND will not be in any playoffs with one loss since they aren't in any conference championship unless there are no other 1 loss teams. There will always be at least 1 0ne loss team in each conference and they are ahead of ND. ND gets in when they are undefeated. One from the SEC, B10, B12 and ACC. Clemson or FState. I think most of you know this already. Just read Sweeney comment about 13 games, basically saying you need to be in a conference or go undefeated.
Actually this team might be better than the one with 2013 team.
Actually this team might be better than the one with 2013 team.
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Im not a troll ... was just stating my opinion on ND's situation above ... but I think Ginski is spot on with what he said .... ND's SOS isnt turning out to be all that great ... its solid but I dont think its enough to get an invite, especially if there are other teams out there with the same record but they get the option to play in a Conf Championship. Just my two pence.
In theory yes. In reality no. Playing a division 2 school ...yes I still call it that or division 1 aa....should not make your extra game be so significant.I.e. conference championship....because the play down game is so insignificant.
Last season when the first playoff ranking showed up people were jacked that Notre Dame was so low. Notre Dame although undefeated at that point was no where near as good as this year's squad with a green qb.
They weren't dominant in their games to that point. Michigan lifeless game aside.
This year the only game until Clemson that was tough was Virginia. Qb breaks leg, ...still they won.
If this squad wins out they will be in the mix and deservedly so. They must get dominating wins to secure it though. Leave no doubt. If you can put 60 up...do it.
According to who?
According to Sagarin, ND has a SoS rank of 30. Left on the schedule are:
Navy - 105
USC - 48
Temple - 100
PITT - 18
Wake - 67
BC - 107
Stanford - 6
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Now that isn't to say I think ND is in at 11-1. I think if the SEC champ, B1G champ, and PAC champ are all 1 loss. Than ND is fighting against the ACC and the B12 for the last spot. And if Clemson wins out, ND will be looking from the outside along with the B12 again. If Clemson stumbles anywhere, or if the B1G or PAC implodes is ND's best chances. I'm still not sold on the B12 for this year.
Ehh. Too soon to say. Remember it was only a few years ago that LSU went as the second seed with 2 losses? ND only has to get in as a 4th seed with one loss. Chances aren't great but remember Yogi Berra for gosh sakes.
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