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Syracuse travels to meet Notre Dame bringing a 17-10 record to the Irish at #8 and 24-4 . ND is an 8 point favorite and should get to 25 wins, but SU will play them tough.

ND needs to win the three remaining games to keep hope alive for a 2 seed.
 
yeah the cuse aren't there normal self this year but there center is having a great year and could be a reason that they make this a close game
 
Syracuse is always a tough match up for Notre Dame given their length and athleticism. They will kill us on the offensive glass. Their zone hasn't been up to standards for them this year, but I still think this will be a toss up depending on how well we shoot from outside.
 
We should be able to generate open looks against their zone, but they will dominate us on the glass and on the interior. Typically we shoot really well at home, and we're going to have to today.
 
It wouldn't matter if Syracuse was 10-17 they're always a tough out.

I do like my Irish to get the win at home. I can't see Cuse matching our scoring output and if we can rebound efficiently enough (doubt we outrebound them) we should take this one... somewhere in the 70-65 range.
 
We're flat right now. Cuse zone and inside play is killing us right now.
 
right now … ND is 2-12 from 3 point range and 2-9 from inside the arc. Under 20% Horrible!
 
8.3 sec left. Games over.

ND picked a "good time" to miss 3 pointers … only Connaughton made any.
 
This is what will happen in the tournament too. I can see why the Brey bashers feel the way they do after watching tonights game. This was the worst time to let down. Louisville will be looking for blood next week.
 
To be honest I don't think this is a "big picture" loss. We shot 3-22 from the 3 point line and probably would have won had Cooney not pulled those shots out of his ass coming down the stretch. Our defensive intensity was as good as it's been all year, so that was good to see. I also wish Brey would have gone to the lineup with Bonzie & Auguste sooner, because that was effective against their zone. I would like to see that more in the future, because it really helps us on the boards.

This does make the Louisville game more important now. Let's not turn one loss into two.
 
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To bad we picked last night game to lay an egg shooting wise. And I love the Brey bashers, as if it's his fault we shoot 3 - 22 from 3 point range. Our younger players just choked in this one, and yet we still had a chance. And it wasn't the zone either, we had plenty of open looks, just couldn't/didn't knock'em down. That's not the coaches fault; that's the players. Hopefully they suck it up, and get back on track with Louisville next.

This post was edited on 2/25 10:11 AM by DieHard_Irish
 
Blueprint for beating them right now....that's why I said take the 'Cuse and the 8 pts....ND offense is much better against m/m than zone. Take the drive and kick out away, bump cutters, and guard the ball tight forcing ND to drive into clogged lanes. Force Auguste and Bonzie to score inside...ND is a rhythm offense, last nite I did not see much of a flow. But Syracuse has guys on scholarship too and that zone causes lots of problems because they are long. And yes Diehard I did notice how when ND loses a game certain posters show up...when they win..no where in site...ignore function
 
Agreed. Syracuse is probably considered an "above average" team and Notre Dame cannot beat good teams with average shooting and certainly not good teams with miserable shooting as they had last night.
 
Actually there were a couple of questionable non-substitutions late game. Couldn't understand Vasturia in on the defensive end with Demetrious sitting on the bench.
This post was edited on 2/25 5:37 PM by sluggo69
 
I saw that as well...I wonder if Cooney makes those wild shots if DJ was on him. I liked seeing Bonzie and Zac together....been clamoring for it for about a month. I think Brey was thinking 3 pt game from Vasturia, Connaughton and Grant...Syracuse did a good job of jumping in the lane on DJ and Grant...I also thought they were really good in not only recovering to shooters but forcing them to put it on the floor away from the middle...as bad as it was 2-3 stops in the last 4 minutes and who knows.

Outside of Kentucky who is really good, there are about 20 teams that have a legit shot of going to the final four. Don't be shocked to see a 2 beat a 15 and a 14 beat a 3 this year...the 8 vs 9 games are gonna be virtually impossible to pick.
 
the anouncers talked about how cooney had such a bad back but you couldn't tell it in those last few minutes with those buckets that he made
 
ND looked out of sync v the 2-3 zone all night. IMO this was a game that would have solidified a top 3 seed. I was expecting a big win for the Irish last night. Syracuse really is not a very good team at all. Brey might have to get ready for more zones even though teams do not like to play it. What disturbs me the most is the lack of confidence Brey has in DJ. There is not way that guy should be on the bench at the 5 minute mark. They were awful from the perimeter and needed someone to create offense besides Grant. He can do that and plays GREAT D . Vasturia has had a great season so I will not knock him for having to defend Cooney. The kid came up big . Offensively though going 3-22 from the 3 will result in scoring only 60 points . That can't happen at home. The team seemed so flat . Is it just me?
 
Originally posted by jr97:

ND looked out of sync v the 2-3 zone all night. IMO this was a game that would have solidified a top 3 seed. I was expecting a big win for the Irish last night. Syracuse really is not a very good team at all. Brey might have to get ready for more zones even though teams do not like to play it. What disturbs me the most is the lack of confidence Brey has in DJ. There is not way that guy should be on the bench at the 5 minute mark. They were awful from the perimeter and needed someone to create offense besides Grant. He can do that and plays GREAT D . Vasturia has had a great season so I will not knock him for having to defend Cooney. The kid came up big . Offensively though going 3-22 from the 3 will result in scoring only 60 points . That can't happen at home. The team seemed so flat . Is it just me?
No ..... the development and use of DJ is one of many head scratchers ..... typical of the last 14 years
 
^yeah you're right it's Brey's fault they lost. It's his fault that we shot 3 -22 from 3. You are such an asshole.
 
DieHard...I love ya brother! But haven't you learned, ND hasn't won 24 games this year, the opponent has lost them. The 5 losses, all Brey's fault. You'll catch on...ignore function my man....
 
Originally posted by jacksondomer:
DieHard...I love ya brother! But haven't you learned, ND hasn't won 24 games this year, the opponent has lost them. The 5 losses, all Brey's fault. You'll catch on...ignore function my man....
You stated it well!!
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Originally posted by DieHard_Irish:
^yeah you're right it's Brey's fault they lost. It's his fault that we shot 3 -22 from 3. You are such an asshole.
It's Brey's fault since he doesn't help at all during the games. He leaves everything to his players to figure out and do the coaching.

you apparently have an inferiority complex and a lack of class .... You have lots of company
 
Originally posted by jacksondomer:
DieHard...I love ya brother! But haven't you learned, ND hasn't won 24 games this year, the opponent has lost them. The 5 losses, all Brey's fault. You'll catch on...ignore function my man....
Wrong both times. No surprise. Grant/Connaughton have won 24 games. They are the ones actually coaching this team.
 
Originally posted by Buguit:


Originally posted by jacksondomer:
DieHard...I love ya brother! But haven't you learned, ND hasn't won 24 games this year, the opponent has lost them. The 5 losses, all Brey's fault. You'll catch on...ignore function my man....
Wrong both times. No surprise. Grant/Connaughton have won 24 games. They are the ones actually coaching this team.
the clown act continues. yada, yada, yada. the best thing about nd doing so well this year is that your nonsense has been kept to a minimum.
 
Originally posted by echowaker:

Originally posted by Buguit:



Originally posted by jacksondomer:
DieHard...I love ya brother! But haven't you learned, ND hasn't won 24 games this year, the opponent has lost them. The 5 losses, all Brey's fault. You'll catch on...ignore function my man....
Wrong both times. No surprise. Grant/Connaughton have won 24 games. They are the ones actually coaching this team.
the clown act continues. yada, yada, yada. the best thing about nd doing so well this year is that your nonsense has been kept to a minimum.
You haven't been paying attention ...... selective menory must certainly be contagious ..... the alternative answer is even worse so let's go with that ..... after 14 years this is par for the course

Every year the same old clowns plus a few new comers who ALSO have no idea what has been going on for 14 years (johnny come latelys) want to try and call me out

Get in line .... still I haven't been wrong yet .... about Brey that is
 
Originally posted by Buguit:

Originally posted by echowaker:


Originally posted by Buguit:




Originally posted by jacksondomer:
DieHard...I love ya brother! But haven't you learned, ND hasn't won 24 games this year, the opponent has lost them. The 5 losses, all Brey's fault. You'll catch on...ignore function my man....
Wrong both times. No surprise. Grant/Connaughton have won 24 games. They are the ones actually coaching this team.
the clown act continues. yada, yada, yada. the best thing about nd doing so well this year is that your nonsense has been kept to a minimum.
You haven't been paying attention ...... selective menory must certainly be contagious ..... the alternative answer is even worse so let's go with that ..... after 14 years this is par for the course

Every year the same old clowns plus a few new comers who ALSO have no idea what has been going on for 14 years (johnny come latelys) want to try and call me out

Get in line .... still I haven't been wrong yet .... about Brey that is
of course you have. has one single solitary player who played for mike brey over the last 14 years ever come forward with ANYTHING that even remotely supports your asinine assumptions ? has any former player ever publicly accused brey of not coaching or for that matter criticized his coaching style ? I don't think brey is a great coach by any stretch of the imagination but I believe in giving credit where credit is due. he's done a fabulous job this season and will rightly be in the discussion for national coach of the year. you'd think a REAL nd fan would enjoy the ride.
 
Hey echo....why don't you ask supercoach how he would coach the team.....that will get him to run away for awhile. Ask him to x and o a little bit...then you will realize how little he knows...DieHard had it right. Brey has done a fabulous job with this squad. I agree with you..is he the best coach in the country...no...but to not give him credit for what he has done is totally asinine...hence..you are talking to an asshole. Believe me...you have probably forgotten more about coaching this game than he will ever know. I know I have...
 
Originally posted by echowaker:


Originally posted by Buguit:



Originally posted by echowaker:




Originally posted by Buguit:






Originally posted by jacksondomer:
DieHard...I love ya brother! But haven't you learned, ND hasn't won 24 games this year, the opponent has lost them. The 5 losses, all Brey's fault. You'll catch on...ignore function my man....
Wrong both times. No surprise. Grant/Connaughton have won 24 games. They are the ones actually coaching this team.
the clown act continues. yada, yada, yada. the best thing about nd doing so well this year is that your nonsense has been kept to a minimum.
You haven't been paying attention ...... selective menory must certainly be contagious ..... the alternative answer is even worse so let's go with that ..... after 14 years this is par for the course

Every year the same old clowns plus a few new comers who ALSO have no idea what has been going on for 14 years (johnny come latelys) want to try and call me out

Get in line .... still I haven't been wrong yet .... about Brey that is
of course you have. has one single solitary player who played for mike brey over the last 14 years ever come forward with ANYTHING that even remotely supports your asinine assumptions ? has any former player ever publicly accused brey of not coaching or for that matter criticized his coaching style ? I don't think brey is a great coach by any stretch of the imagination but I believe in giving credit where credit is due. he's done a fabulous job this season and will rightly be in the discussion for national coach of the year. you'd think a REAL nd fan would enjoy the ride.




I can't belive you actually posted this .... nothing else could exemplify more how little you know about Brey and ND basketball than this

"It's basically whatever Eric says, goes," said Jerian Grant, Atkins' backcourt mate. "Coach (Mike Brey) writes up the game plan, he shows us which way to go. Once we get on the court, it's all Eric."

During this two-month run, Atkins isn't No. 20 Notre Dame's leading scorer. He isn't even Notre Dame's assist leader. But he is, without question, its lead voice while on the attack.

He was handed the ball in October. He was handed the captaincy in December. He has been handed full rein of the offense, basically, and his choreography has produced an improbable NCAA tournament club. - B Hamilton (SB Tribune)

"Coming out of a timeout, I usually call the play, or at halftime I call the play we're going to do at first," said Atkins, who averages 12.7 points and four assists. "(Brey) really trusts me and allows me to call out things on the offensive side of the ball. Whatever I'm comfortable with, we usually go with."

This one really cracks me up ..... apparently Brey has ESP ..... LOL!

"When we would call a set, instead of me saying it, I'd say it through him and let him voice it," Brey said. "Just trying to empower his voice. He's got such a good feel for how we want to play. He understands how to quarterback us now."

"I love playing for Coach Brey, he let's us play our game." - T Jones


OR ... you could take Brey's word for it:

"I'm not much of an x's and o's guy." - M Brey

"A lot of times during a time out, I don't say anything at all." - M Brey

"Using your bench is overrated." - M Brey

Next .....
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This post was edited on 2/26 7:34 PM by Buguit
 
Originally posted by jacksondomer:
Hey echo....why don't you ask supercoach how he would coach the team.....that will get him to run away for awhile. Ask him to x and o a little bit...then you will realize how little he knows...DieHard had it right. Brey has done a fabulous job with this squad. I agree with you..is he the best coach in the country...no...but to not give him credit for what he has done is totally asinine...hence..you are talking to an asshole. Believe me...you have probably forgotten more about coaching this game than he will ever know. I know I have...
This from a guy who calls "The Dark Ages" the "Black Ages" ..... and yes ND basketball remains in THE DARK AGES!

Thx again to my biggest fan and #1 reader

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^so let me understand this, better coaching would have solved the 3 - 22 shooting? Are you really saying that? Have you ever faced or played a minute if Basketball in your whole life? Only a true douchebag would make such an assertion. Your nothing more then a cry baby, a never was, a wanna be, a finger pointer who doesn't know shit.

This post was edited on 2/26 7:55 PM by DieHard_Irish
 
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