Notre Dame does NOT need a new OC

[Zorich 88]

Tommy is a very good OC

My only criticism of Tommy is his QB recruiting.

There is not one OC in the country that could do a better job with this QB.

Pyne/QB is the biggest issue on this team.

How did Tommy look a week ago???

Any complaints about Tommy a week ago???

 

[savvyandsassier]

The only reason Tommy Rees is our OC is because he's a ND grad. I don't know how good a coach he is or not. But that's why he was hired, and is what ND gets out of it. The royal-inbreeding satisfaction of having someone from the bloodline occupy the throne, as it were.

If not for that, like MF, he likely wouldn't have been seriously considered for the job. Not that he's terrible, but if it was strictly on the merits we would have found someone with better merits....

 

[Golson5]

Tommy is a very good OC

My only criticism of Tommy is his QB recruiting.

There is not one OC in the country that could do a better job with this QB.

Pyne/QB is the biggest issue on this team.

How did Tommy look a week ago???

Any complaints about Tommy a week ago???

Okay

 

[Get Nasty]

Tommy is a very good OC

My only criticism of Tommy is his QB recruiting.

There is not one OC in the country that could do a better job with this QB.

Pyne/QB is the biggest issue on this team.

How did Tommy look a week ago???

Any complaints about Tommy a week ago???

Yes qb play wasn’t good, he’s qb coach

 

[Patrirish]

The only reason Tommy Rees is our OC is because he's a ND grad. I don't know how good a coach he is or not. But that's why he was hired, and is what ND gets out of it. The royal-inbreeding satisfaction of having someone from the bloodline occupy the throne, as it were.

If not for that, like MF, he likely wouldn't have been seriously considered for the job. Not that he's terrible, but if it was strictly on the merits we would have found someone with better merits....

I would disagree with the ND grad theory.

Kelly left ND in a terrible position at the absolutely worst time.

it looked like ND would be left with an empty coaching cupboard.

Ergo, Swarbrick made the decision to retain an OC who had been very successful.

it was the right thing to do at the time.

 

[savvyandsassier]

I would disagree with the ND grad theory.

Kelly left ND in a terrible position at the absolutely worst time.

it looked like ND would be left with an empty coaching cupboard.

Ergo, Swarbrick made the decision to retain an OC who had been very successful.

it was the right thing to do at the time.

Can you please STFU about how BK left ND in the lurch. For F's sake, give it a rest. I have you blocked, but sometimes your posts are visible to me anyway.

None of what you say makes any sense in any case, in addition to being obvious gibberish. Once they hired MF he could have hired any assistant coach he wanted, and taken his sweet time doing it. If you're going to keep repeating these odd, annoying mantras over and over again, like how BK put ND in such a bind, which you seem to think is some clever angle you' can work on this controversial subject, and that somehow ND's hands were tied, and thus there's nothing anyone could have done about anything....

At least make it logically plausible. Make it a reasonable claim, instead of this mumbo jumbo.....

 

[Patrirish]

Can you please STFU about how BK left ND in the lurch. For F's sake, give it a rest. I have you blocked, but sometimes your posts are visible to me anyway.

None of what you say makes any sense in any case, in addition to being obvious gibberish. Once they hired MF he could have hired any assistant coach he wanted, and taken his sweet time doing it. If you're going to keep repeating these odd, annoying mantras over and over again, like how BK put ND in such a bind, which you seem to think is some clever angle you' can work on this controversial subject, and that somehow ND's hands were tied, and thus there's nothing anyone could have done about anything....

At least make it logically plausible. Make it a reasonable claim, instead of this mumbo jumbo.....

Everything I said makes sense !

Anyone with an objective brain knows that my premise is fact based and prudent.

Due to the terrible timing of Kelly’s abandonment the pool of available coaches was minimal at best.

Why would Swarbrick risk losing a successful OC who was intimately familiar with the team’s personnel when he just lost his head coach ?

Your love for Kelly has made you blind to Kelly’s faults and his actions.

Kelly announced, nationally, that he was staying at ND and then a week later he abandoned ND, leaving us in the lurch.

Try being objective for a change !

 

[Shakin' Down the Thunder]

I think it's too extreme to say Rees should go or that Rees should stay. I admit I wanted Rees gone after the Stanford game, but beating Clemson has made me reconsider. The question should be if Rees were to go, can Freeman get someone better? The only realistic target I got my eye on would be Dan Mullen. But if he's not interested, I'd give Rees another shot, especially if ND finishes 10-3 with a bowl win.

 

[savvyandsassier]

The question should be why does anyone care about Tommy Rees at all? If this was someone who was a minion/protege of BK, but it was someone he coached at Cincy, like say, Ben Mauk, do you think anybody would give a shit about retaining him? And would there be some agonizing inner struggle about whether we should bring in some ace new OC to get the MF regime started with a bang? Or stay with Tommy Rees....

No, there wouldn't be. You'd just fire him and that be the end of it, just like Jeff Quinn. This is ND self-obsessed nepotism and nothing more.

 

[Zorich 88]

this is what, Tommy’s 3rd season as the OC?

2020 2 loses
2021 2 loses

Book was the QB and made a huge impact on the game.

Now, very poor QB play and people want Tommy fired????

Did Tommy call a good game vs Clemson?

Did Tommy call a good game vs Ohio st???

Tommy will not get fired. He does not deserve to be fired.

 

[Golson5]

this is what, Tommy’s 3rd season as the OC?

2020 2 loses
2021 2 loses

Book was the QB and made a huge impact on the game.

Now, very poor QB play and people want Tommy fired????

Did Tommy call a good game vs Clemson?

Did Tommy call a good game vs Ohio st???

Tommy will not get fired. He does not deserve to be fired.

Did Tommy call a good game bs OSU? No

Did Tommy call a good game vs Marshall? No

Did Tommy call a good game vs Cal? No

Did Tommy call a good game vs Stanford? No

Did Tommy call a good game vs Navy in the 2nd half? No

 

[Zorich 88]

Did Tommy call a good game bs OSU? No

Did Tommy call a good game vs Marshall? No

Did Tommy call a good game vs Cal? No

Did Tommy call a good game vs Stanford? No

Did Tommy call a good game vs Navy in the 2nd half? No

Do your evaluation is simply this season? Tommy is a good OC with the worst QB in the to 25.

 

[Golson5]

Do your evaluation is simply this season? Tommy is a good OC with the worst QB in the to 25.

Yes this season

Is he the QB coach that develops the QBs? Yes

Is he the coach that recruits the QBs? Yes

 

[NDDadx3]

I give Tommy a B or B- for play calling, that’s only part of his job. Recruiting and player development has been way below B- at key positions under his watch. His seat should be hot. I would give him one more season and then walk him if our offense isn’t able to play at the level of the rest of the team.

 

[savvyandsassier]

I would just can him. Nothing against Tommy Rees, but let's just go in a new direction. It happens, it's nobody's fault. Coaching turnover is extremely common, I would argue an even healthy part of the sport. Especially if we do take a portal QB, and we transition out of the BK paradigm, and into a brave new world for ND football, and it will be MF's team to build his, whatever, his legacy. But whoever the QB is, Buchner is still more or less of a blank slate, Angeli as well.....

Plus the idea that the real reason you would retain him, or want to and look for reasons to retain him, is really because of the desire to have a ND alum in a top position like that, which I think is inarguable.... is really bad. You just can't run your football program around that, it's really, really bad. ND already splurged with MF. We can't have the top two coaches on the team both be vanity picks...

 

[graceh90]

I think Rees is more likely to be a future ND head coach than he is to be fired this year. My 2 cents

 

[NDgreatestofalltime!]

The only reason Tommy Rees is our OC is because he's a ND grad. I don't know how good a coach he is or not. But that's why he was hired, and is what ND gets out of it. The royal-inbreeding satisfaction of having someone from the bloodline occupy the throne, as it were.

If not for that, like MF, he likely wouldn't have been seriously considered for the job. Not that he's terrible, but if it was strictly on the merits we would have found someone with better merits....

I disagree with many of your takes Savy, and we’ve banged heads but I’m with you 100% on this. If not for him being close to BK and a former ND QB under BK, he (Tommy) would’ve never been considered for any job at ND.

TR would’ve started like most his age at a place like Kent State, FIU, NMSU, etc..

 

[NDDadx3]

I disagree with many of your takes Savy, and we’ve banged heads but I’m with you 100% on this. If not for him being close to BK and a former ND QB under BK, he (Tommy) would’ve never been considered for any job at ND.

TR would’ve started like most his age at a place like Kent State, FIU, NMSU, etc..

Like Charlie Weis Jr had to work his way up the ranks. I mean the kid started working at ND when he was 12. BTW, is he available?

 

[Get Nasty]

I disagree with many of your takes Savy, and we’ve banged heads but I’m with you 100% on this. If not for him being close to BK and a former ND QB under BK, he (Tommy) would’ve never been considered for any job at ND.

TR would’ve started like most his age at a place like Kent State, FIU, NMSU, etc..

It happens all the time. Look at K and pretty much all of his previous captains become young coaches at duke without any qualifications. A lot of them work and do well at duke and become future coaches elsewhere.

You do have to trust the coach, but you need the results to match. Obviously QB has not been a position of strength at ND and it needs to be. That's on Tommy and BK/Freeman. I say freeman because he approved no transfers. But more so on BK/Tommy.

If I'm Freeman I keep Tommy but bring in someone to help him with QB development and how to lead/coach, and call great games every week. I say this and I don't like Tommy. UNLESS you can bring in a home run hire. I see potential with Tommy, but he ain't there yet. I'm giving him this last chance because of the offensive weapons he's help bring in this class. There should be young talent all over the field next year in Ireland. If there isn't, big disappointment.

 

[SouthFloridaIrish88]

How do you beat Cover 0, is the first question a Head Coach should ask his OC every week. Because, if you can't beat Cover 0, a team will blitz you until the cows come home. That's how an outmanned defense held ND to 12 yards, 0 points and 0 first downs in a 2nd half of football.

It was also basically the same strategy Marshall and Stanford utilized. ND is very fortunate every team has not done the same thing.

In 2013 MSU was 13-1 finished #3, beat OSU in the Big 10 Title Game and Stanford in the Rose Bowl. They had a devastating defense, led by Pat Narduzzi, not a bunch of 1-star players

They came after ND with sky safety support (both safeties down on run support) and bringing pressure nonstop.

Notre Dame quarterback Tommy Rees was just 14-for-34 for 142 yards and the Irish were no more successful on the ground, gaining just 82 yards.

What was successful for Notre Dame, however, was throwing the ball up for grabs because Michigan State was called for four pass interference penalties and one defensive holding. Two of the pass interference calls came on the winning drive.

Now if ND can do that vs a Top 3 team, and Darqueze Dennard, a 1st Round NFL pick at corner. They sure as hell could have done that against Navy.

Amateur hour coaching has cost this football team 2 games against 2nd rate competition and did everything to cost them a 3rd game. LET'S GO COACHES!!!

 

[Patrirish]

I would just can him. Nothing against Tommy Rees, but let's just go in a new direction. It happens, it's nobody's fault. Coaching turnover is extremely common, I would argue an even healthy part of the sport. Especially if we do take a portal QB, and we transition out of the BK paradigm, and into a brave new world for ND football, and it will be MF's team to build his, whatever, his legacy. But whoever the QB is, Buchner is still more or less of a blank slate, Angeli as well.....

Plus the idea that the real reason you would retain him, or want to and look for reasons to retain him, is really because of the desire to have a ND alum in a top position like that, which I think is inarguable.... is really bad. You just can't run your football program around that, it's really, really bad. ND already splurged with MF. We can't have the top two coaches on the team both be vanity picks...

And replace him with whom ?

Give us the names of some viable candidates who are available.

 

[sjb75]

Did Tommy call a good game bs OSU? No

Did Tommy call a good game vs Marshall? No

Did Tommy call a good game vs Cal? No

Did Tommy call a good game vs Stanford? No

Did Tommy call a good game vs Navy in the 2nd half? No

Did Notre Dame play well against Marshall, Stanford, UNLV, or Cal?

All starts at the top.

 

[Golson5]

Did Notre Dame play well against Marshall, Stanford, UNLV, or Cal?

All starts at the top.

No.

Thanks to our offense. Which he is in charge of

 

[sjb75]

No.

Thanks to our offense. Which he is in charge of

All starts at the top.

 

[Golson5]

All starts at the top.

I know. Tommy Rees

 

[NDDadx3]

How do you beat Cover 0, is the first question a Head Coach should ask his OC every week. Because, if you can't beat Cover 0, a team will blitz you until the cows come home. That's how an outmanned defense held ND to 12 yards, 0 points and 0 first downs in a 2nd half of football.

It was also basically the same strategy Marshall and Stanford utilized. ND is very fortunate every team has not done the same thing.

In 2013 MSU was 13-1 finished #3, beat OSU in the Big 10 Title Game and Stanford in the Rose Bowl. They had a devastating defense, led by Pat Narduzzi, not a bunch of 1-star players

They came after ND with sky safety support (both safeties down on run support) and bringing pressure nonstop.

Notre Dame quarterback Tommy Rees was just 14-for-34 for 142 yards and the Irish were no more successful on the ground, gaining just 82 yards.

What was successful for Notre Dame, however, was throwing the ball up for grabs because Michigan State was called for four pass interference penalties and one defensive holding. Two of the pass interference calls came on the winning drive.

Now if ND can do that vs a Top 3 team, and Darqueze Dennard, a 1st Round NFL pick at corner. They sure as hell could have done that against Navy.

Amateur hour coaching has cost this football team 2 games against 2nd rate competition and did everything to cost them a 3rd game. LET'S GO COACHES!!!

I think we actually had one first down in the second half

 

[McCallen ND NYC]

Freeman needs a very good OC to be successful at ND and prefers coaches who can recruit top players. I don’t think Tommy is good at either, so I think Freeman will part ways with him even though but he is good with play calling.

 

[Zorich 88]

Yes this season

Is he the QB coach that develops the QBs? Yes

Is he the coach that recruits the QBs? Yes

He recruited your new favorite ND QB out of Saline.

 

[rivals50]

Tommy is a very good OC

My only criticism of Tommy is his QB recruiting.

There is not one OC in the country that could do a better job with this QB.

Pyne/QB is the biggest issue on this team.

How did Tommy look a week ago???

Any complaints about Tommy a week ago???

Keep him as OC and welcome a 7-5 / 8-4 season next year again

 

[NDinNJ]

Everything I said makes sense !

Anyone with an objective brain knows that my premise is fact based and prudent.

Due to the terrible timing of Kelly’s abandonment the pool of available coaches was minimal at best.

Why would Swarbrick risk losing a successful OC who was intimately familiar with the team’s personnel when he just lost his head coach ?

Your love for Kelly has made you blind to Kelly’s faults and his actions.

Kelly announced, nationally, that he was staying at ND and then a week later he abandoned ND, leaving us in the lurch.

Try being objective for a change !

Unfortunately, you won't convince this psycho . His infatuation for Kelly is extremely creepy. I wouldn't doubt he has pictures of Kelly covering his bedroom walls, and newspaper clippings in a scrapbook.

 

[DieHard_Irish]

Did Tommy call a good game bs OSU? No

Did Tommy call a good game vs Marshall? No

Did Tommy call a good game vs Cal? No

Did Tommy call a good game vs Stanford? No

Did Tommy call a good game vs Navy in the 2nd half? No

Each one of your no answers is wrong. Our offense left multiple scoring opportunities on the field in each game. That is a lack of execution, that's on the players. Including the 2nd half of the navy game. The play calling was fine, the execution was awful. This constant "fire the OC" just shows how ignorant some people are about this team, and football in general. It's in the same league as "play the backup QB", when they know literally nothing about the backup QB

 

[DieHard_Irish]

I think we actually had one first down in the second half

Because our QB play in the 2nd half was flat out awful, along with the complete failure of our RBs blocking, not because of the play calling.

 

[Patrirish]

Freeman needs a very good OC to be successful at ND and prefers coaches who can recruit top players. I don’t think Tommy is good at either, so I think Freeman will part ways with him even though but he is good with play calling.

Rees’s contract is with ND and it may be a multi-year contract.

What was Reese’s win-loss record in 2021 and 2020 ?

 

[Patrirish]

Each one of your no answers is wrong. Our offense left multiple scoring opportunities on yhe field in each game. That a lack of execution, that's on the players. Including the 2nd half of the navy game. The playing calling was fine, the execution was awful. This constant "fire the OC" just shows how ignorant some people are about this team, abd football in general. It's in the same league as "play yhe backup QB"

👍

 

[Patrirish]

Unfortunately, you won't convince this psycho . His infatuation for Kelly is extremely creepy. I wouldn't doubt he has pictures of Kelly covering his bedroom walls, and newspaper clippings in a scrapbook.

I think she’s a relative, and if so I have a better perspective and understanding of her posts.

 

[McCallen ND NYC]

Rees’s contract is with ND and it may be a multi-year contract.

What was Reese’s win-loss record in 2021 and 2020 ?

0-0. Rees doesn’t have his own team. Brian Kelly was way more involved in the offense versus Freeman.

 

[NDDadx3]

Because our QB play in thec2nd half was flat out awful, along with the complete failure of our RBs blocking, not because of the play calling.

It’s week 10 and coaches are still talking about players not executing. Is that the fault of players or coaches? Answer is Yes.

7-3 with this team is a good and not surprising outcome. What is tough to swallow is that 2 of the losses are to Marshall and Stanford. If we close strong we would all feel better.

We will be able to evaluate this coaching staff next year. Weis in year 3 was a flop. Kelly in year 3 revealed what he was too … undefeated and punching above its weight.

 

[mirer03]

Tommy is a very good OC

My only criticism of Tommy is his QB recruiting.

There is not one OC in the country that could do a better job with this QB.

Pyne/QB is the biggest issue on this team.

How did Tommy look a week ago???

Any complaints about Tommy a week ago???

Sorry to disagree here but Tommy simply isn't a good playcaller. At times he is out thinking himself.... How many 3rd quarter three and outs where he goes run up the middle... Loss. Run up the middle on 2nd and long... Loss or small gain... Pass to mayer on quad coverage on third and long do we have to see.

I think Tommy is really smart. I think he has two major faults.

1. He has shown zero aptitude to develop a backup QB. ZERO.

2. He never allows the offense to get into the flow and his calls sometimes take momentum AWAY from the team. Especially the read and look at the sideline garbage.

 

[scubastevefl]

 

[Chitown11]

And replace him with whom ?

Give us the names of some viable candidates who are available.

There is nobody in the country available. Everyone is taken and no one wants to come to ND.