Good points. I can't imagine that would be written into his contract. That would be ridiculous.
We'll see Saturday if anything changes, with the starting QB and/or the gameplan.
Leonard , Greathouse and Freeman are done.
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We'll see Saturday if anything changes, with the starting QB and/or the gameplan.
Correct, you had Sneed going out to the flat where the rb and wr were running deeper routes. With that concept of sneed in the flat you must have deep help. There absolutely was none. Morrison and KVA in man coverage. Morrison came off his guy to try and help and went for the pick, missed, kva was burnt, TD NIU.
Again, either completely blown coverage or terrible scheme. We knew their RB was going to be splitting out a good bit. ND had 4 lbs in on the play because NIU had 3 TEs out there. We had our worst covering LB as only one in coverage, in man, on an island.
I wouldn’t listen to anything Freeman has to say. He’ll say & do anything to keep his job. This might end up being a worse hire then Wilingham.
Don't waste your time. Get Nasty thinks coaches who were considered among the top defensive coaches last year -- and even as recently as last week -- forgot all they know and are now bums.
And that's not to say this wasn't one of the biggest upsets, if not the biggest, of an ND team ever.
Freeman has never been a good defensive coach. Golden has shown to be one, but freeman said a terrible preparation tone last week. It's why all 3 phases of the team were awful. I'm not blaming the Coordinators yet, since all three were awful. That's clearly a reflection on the HC. Freemen also said (true or not) they worked on being physical in practice, not enough on correcting mistakes, and scheming/preparing for their opponent as much. He said they need to improve the mental side (shocker). He also stated they saw the same mistakes in the game they saw in practice. I'm all for a physical practice, but they should be with the opponent at the forefront so you're being physical preparing for an opponent.
It wasn't the D's best game, but at the end of the day, we gave up 16 pts. You should be able to win when you give up 16 pts. Last year, we beat CMU, 41-17. And nobody cared that we gave up 17, because we scored 41. Penn State allowed 27 pts to Bowling Green Saturday. But they won, because they scored 34.
So the offense was a much bigger problem than the defense IMO.
That's very true, but whether it was the defense's fault or the offensive's fault, kind of misses the point I'm trying to make, and that is upsets happen, even monumental ones like this one.
People quote Holtz a lot on this board and one of his saying that I've always thought was spot on is that most games are decided by about a half dozen plays. We made those plays against A&M, an obviously much better team than NIU. But NIU obviously made more big plays than we did.
I'm also one of those who was not that excited by the Freeman hire because I've seen what happens when ND hires first-time coaches, but I'm not ready to say that this loss provides the necessary proof that he's in over his head even if I think the odds of him being successful are not great.
People care about how bad PSU played and want franklin gone.
CMU had about 250 yds we had 580. That's what you expect when you have a so so day vs a low level team. Just like Bama this past week was playing like crap but took over and whipped them late. We had the opportunity to do that, but Riley crapped the bed.
I thought Freeman was doing a good job overall. Obviously this loss hurts. But before that, we hadn't had a bad loss like that since 2022, his first year. This was a step back, though. So far, the high profile QB and OC he brought in this year aren't working out very well together. That's the main issue. We'll see how we play Saturday at Purdue.
Again, I think we are in basic agreement. I don't think he's done a bad job, but I have doubts about his long-term chances to succeed. Not that I think Saturday's game seals his fate or anything like that.
They weren’t that great, here’s His Sophomore year when he wasn’t injured
63.9% completion percentage
7.6 yards per attempt
Almost 3,000 yards passing
20 TD’s - 6 Int’s
141.5 QB rating
Those areGreat numbers
I bought the hype, but he’s not that guy… he’s the last 9 games played guy… more interceptions than tds, terrible yds per attempt and completion percentage
A 141.5 QB rating isn't that great. And he had a 116.0 rating last year. Drew Pyne had a 155.3 QB rating in 2022 for us. Hartman had 159.4 his last year at Wake Forest and 159.5 last year. Also, Leonard's yards per attempt was lower as well. That tells you he's completing mostly shorter passes. Hartman had 8.6 yds/attempt in 2022 and 8.9 yds/attempt last year.
The only thing really great were his rushing numbers in 2022 (699 yds, 13 TDs).
