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ND vs Cards game day thread

This is the mentality that keeps the ND football program as a 2nd or 3rd tier team.

"just win" works against the ACC and the other trash on NDs schedule, but you are not going to come ANYWHERE NEAR a win playing like this against the top 5 teams in the country

Having no passing game against Louisville and being in a 50-50 type game against them is not going to play vs elite teams that are gatekeepers for a national title.
You're right me being happy with today's win is what is keeping the program down. What was I thinking? Obviously our O needs imptovement.
 
I have heard Urban Meyer TWICE this year talk about how shameful it is that ND can not develop any of their own QBs and hasn’t for years.

Like him or not, Urban is an incredible coach and knows talent, I agree with him.
That doesn’t mean he’s infallible with his football opinions. Go get the best talent. Simple as that. Then decide who gives you the best chance to win and start that player.
 
You're right me being happy with today's win is what is keeping the program down. What was I thinking?
If you are not showing signs of being able to compete with top 5 type teams (Texas, Alabama, Georgia, OSU, etc.) in the playoff then what is even the point? It's national title or bust.

A win is nice in the stat column, but is anybody convinced Notre Dame wouldn't get boat raced by any of the top teams in the SEC right now? Im certainly not.
 
If you are not showing signs of being able to compete with top 5 type teams (Texas, Alabama, Georgia, OSU, etc.) what is the point? A win is nice in the stat column, but is anybody convinced Notre Dame wouldn't get boat raced by any of the top teams in the SEC right now? Im certainly not.
That should be the goal agreed. But that is not who this team is. Making the playoff would be a good start.
 
Even in this stupid offense RL has forced us into there's no ****ing way he should carry the ball more than JL! Incompetence on full display from every coach that has input on this Offense! Love is a superstar who is being shackled by all of the above!
 
For those saying this is the worst coached
It doesn’t show because we have the worst QB of a top 40-50 team. Only QB competing with Leonard is Orji.
If you think RL was the only problem, then you don't know football. There were lots of mistakes all around; 2 fumbles putting D in horrible position, false starts, dumb penalties, drops by WRs, blown blocks, etc. It's a team game.
 
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I thought Shough played really well. He was very accurate. That one TD pass was Mahomes-like.

This bye week will come in handy.
 
That should be the goal agreed. But that is not who this team is. Making the playoff would be a good start.
It'll be a tough challenge to go 11-1. Every team remaining is decent. Even Stanford beat Syracuse last week on the road. And the service academies are both 4-0. USC will be tough in the Coliseum.
 
If we had a last drive like Louisvilles the whole board would be calling for the HC and OC to be fired. Just saying
 
If we had a last drive like Louisvilles the whole board would be calling for the HC and OC to be fired. Just saying
Our last drive was terrible, too. One first down would've ended the game, but we couldn't get it. Fortunately, the D came through at the end.
 
If we had a last drive like Louisvilles the whole board would be calling for the HC and OC to be fired. Just saying
and I’d agree with them.

Our last drive was pathetic as well. I wish I could share my text prior to it. I sent my two buddies (Domers) a text saying “here is where we run-run-run-punt”.

Though I did say I thought UL would tie and win in OT.
 
yes I would
I respect that. It frustrates me when people cry only after the fact. It’s not that I’m not looking at the whole picture. We just have different views on what’s acceptable. I don’t think it was greedy or stupid for either decision in that spot.

4th and 1 is not greedy in the first half, down 10, on the 15 IMO.
 
Do they get anyone in the trenches back from injury soon? Really need the extra bodies at this point. Glad they held on at the end. Really didn't like how Louisville made sure they were hitting after the whistle more often than not. You could tell it's in their coaching with how consistently it occurred.
 
Do you really believe Leonard is the best option available to ND?

That blows my mind, I don’t mean that to sound like a personal shot. He’s just not very good.
I hear you. Yes, absolutely I think he’s the best option. He’s a stud running the ball and the offensive line is struggling. You really want a QB that can do damage with his legs.

It’s unfortunate we can’t peek into a crystal ball and see the results with Angeli or another QB. I think ND loses to A&M. His demonstrated history of throwing the ball at Duke is better than what ND fans have seen at ND.
 
I hear you. Yes, absolutely I think he’s the best option. He’s a stud running the ball and the offensive line is struggling. You really want a QB that can do damage with his legs.

It’s unfortunate we can’t peek into a crystal ball and see the results with Angeli or another QB. I think ND loses to A&M. His demonstrated history of throwing the ball at Duke is better than what ND fans have seen at ND.
Angeli gets sacked 4 times today and probably throws a pick
 
Illinois 7
PSU 0...
It's early but, can 1 person HONESTLY say BB isn't 1000% better coach than what we have? Why?? ILLINOIS, REALY...MY HOME STATE??? This says it all for me and whatever you come back w/ you're wrong! Shouldn't ever be this way and that's why we're Still The Same...Bullet Bob never lied!
Edit 7-7 PSU is good and Franklin the buffoon is also better than our MAC coach!
 
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Illinois 7
PSU 0...
It's early but, can 1 person HONESTLY say BB isn't 1000% better coach than what we have? Why?? ILLINOIS, REALY...MY HOME STATE??? This says it all for me and whatever you come back w/ you're wrong! Shouldn't ever be this way and that's why we're Still The Same...Bullet Bob never lied!
Let's see how today goes.
 
We had 280 yards vs a banged up ok defense … pathetic … our run d got gashed .. pathetic

Glad we won… it’s a win where you have major concerns and no answers coming out of it
 
This kid Altmeyer throws darts on slants that RL dreams of. Then he gets them to jump and takes a shot, perfect pass and the db has to grab or it's 6, pi...he made 3 great plays on 1 play...RL, 👍 🤣
 
For those that don’t realize how bad of a coached team this is…. It’s beyond bad

We should be thanking Kelly because his play area are saving us in big moments

Benmo has been average this year, and sucked today, lbs have been poor other than our vet, the interior line depth is awful..

Recruiting not showing up other than love
May have more t25 wins than Kelly after 4 years compared to Kelly's 12
 
This is the mentality that keeps the ND football program as a 2nd or 3rd tier team.

"just win" works against the ACC and the other trash on NDs schedule, but you are not going to come ANYWHERE NEAR a win playing like this against the top 5 teams in the country

Having no passing game against Louisville and being in a 50-50 type game against them is not going to play vs elite teams that are gatekeepers for a national title.
For once I agree with you.
 
And Alabama is still well coached! Sure they have great players but, those players are executing beautifully against the current dynasty of CFB which, is still loaded and has Kirby...we or so far away, the fact we have MF is laughable that I was duped by his personality...Alabama goes from the goat to a guy that coached in the NC game last year! Alabama serious, ND NOT. Don't bring $$$ or academics up cause we've been missing coaches like this for 28 years and most x's we don't even try!
Edit...Alabama is filthy again!! 4 drives, 4 td's against #2Georgia...ND 16 points against NIU?! MIC DROP...I'm done boys time for a nice glass of 🍷& some other CFB!
 
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And Alabama is still well coached! Sure they have great players but, those players are executing beautifully against the current dynasty of CFB which, is still loaded and has Kirby...we or so far away, the fact we have MF is laughable that I was duped by his personality...Alabama goes from the goat to a guy that coached in the NC game last year! Alabama serious, ND NOT. Don't bring $$$ or academics up cause we've been missing coaches like this for 28 years and most x's we don't even try!
You have to bring up money.

The teams at the top of the SEC take football seriously and invest in a tier 1 product. ND does not.

ND keeps the purse closed (minus the coordinator investments this past offseason) but celebrates/promotes the team like its some juggernaut destined for a national title.
 
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