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ND gets Screwed

BS. A two-loss PSU team barely beats USC in OT by 3. We beat them by two touchdowns. So much for shared opponents.
I don't see that much difference in the Penn State and ND games against USC. Penn State won by 3 in OT. USC was threatening to tie the score against us with about 5 minutes to play. Sound like two close games to me. After Gray's incredible pick-6, USC was knocking on the door with a couple of minutes remaining to potentially pull within one score. It was not like we moved the ball at will on them in the fourth quarter. We had two spectacular plays at the end of the game to close it out.
 
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ND has the easiest side of the bracket .. get through Georgia and you are favored vs all the other opponents until the national championship game
You mispelled hardest.
Also, IU is the worst first round game ND could have gotten going in. It negates a home game in December and IU is going to be very motivated to show they’re the best team in Indiana.

Yes, they should still absolutely win. But it’s not the ideal first round game by any means.

look at the composition of the committee

Look at their bios


Then ask yourself: who’s better qualified to rank the teams…. The committee or Vegas
Vegas would put in Bama, they don't care about W-L. The BCS computers had ND above PSU for several weeks. I don't know if the Lions got a bump for their quality loss #2.
Backup QB or not, getting through Georgia is far from easy.
The backup qb makes UGA harder. Kirby just doesn't know it.
BS. A two-loss PSU team barely beats USC in OT by 3. We beat them by two touchdowns. So much for shared opponents.
Yes.
Guys come on. ND is for me a clear favorite. I respect any opponent and don't assume a win.

I expect MF won't. As I said, if ND plays its A game, it should be a strong enough win. MF has grown as a disciplinarian and game day prep coach.

I said the same about USC. ND didn't play its A game...but had enough quality to grind out a win. ND is a very good team by now.

No screw job here. ND lost to NIU and is not in a conference. I'll take this path...as ranking means nothing now that the playoffs are here.

Win each game. Period.
It isn't the first round that is the screw job. The only threat on the road is Tennessee. IT is the NYD 2nd round where we got the hardest draw possible; playing UGA in the South after they have had a month to prepare. And Smart is not going to spend 50% of his time on IU.
 
I don't see that much difference in the Penn State and ND games against USC. Penn State won by 3 in OT. USC was threatening to tie the score against us with about 5 minutes to play. Sound like two close games to me. After Gray's incredible pick-6, USC was knocking on the door with a couple of minutes remaining to potentially pull within one score. It was not like we moved the ball at will on them in the fourth quarter. We had two spectacular plays at the end of the game to close it out.
You dont see a difference between a team being down 21 to a team vs a team that led from start to finish? Says a lot.
 
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I find this thread fascinating and hilarious. How can any playoff team say they got screwed? 99% of college teams would happily trade shoes with a playoff team. If you're not happy with the seeding, then don't lose! It's that simple! Don't leave your fate to a bunch of dumbasses that haven't played football in decades. And if you really believe you got screwed. Then guess what? You don't have to play! Decline the invitation and let someone else who really wants to be in the playoffs, take your spot.

What is ironic to me is that the playoff was created to create a more just and fair path to awarding a champion and people are crying like there has been this huge injustice. Is the 12 team playoff perfect? No, but I think it's more than fair enough compared to the BCS days.
 
You dont see a difference between a team being down 21 to a team vs a team that led from start to finish? Says a lot.
Because 14 of those 21 points came on two spectacular plays in the last 5 minutes.

Tell me you were sitting with your feet up relishing the runaway victory before Gray made that first interception, and I’ll tell you you were stoned.
 
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You mispelled hardest.



Vegas would put in Bama, they don't care about W-L. The BCS computers had ND above PSU for several weeks. I don't know if the Lions got a bump for their quality loss #2.

The backup qb makes UGA harder. Kirby just doesn't know it.

Yes.

It isn't the first round that is the screw job. The only threat on the road is Tennessee. IT is the NYD 2nd round where we got the hardest draw possible; playing UGA in the South after they have had a month to prepare. And Smart is not going to spend 50% of his time on IU.


As I explained, Georgia is not a screw up. ND can and will step up. MF will bring their pretty good A game.
 
Because 14 of those 21 points came on two spectacular plays in the last 5 minutes.

Tell me you were sitting with your feet up relishing the runaway victory before Gray made that first interception, and I’ll tell you you were stoned.
I wasnt sweating being down 21 in the 1st half with our playoff hopes fading away either. Reminder ND was only opp all year USC didnt have a lead in the 4th qrt.
 
Totally agree! Think the Irish can beat the Hoosiers and the Dawgs!
Time for the Irish to put the foot to the metal and prove the the SEC whiners and run of the mill haters wrong!
One game at a time...
Win and advance!
Go Irish! Beat IU!!

Final thoughts after watching the CCGs...think this Irish team can hold their own with any team in the playoffs

Also believe that first round byes should be eliminated and the all the teams seeded.
Pretty sure that the consensus from analysts is to do just that!
 
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I wasnt sweating being down 21 in the 1st half with our playoff hopes fading away either. Reminder ND was only opp all year USC didnt have a lead in the 4th qrt.
But I doubt you were really relaxed when USC dashed downfield in a minute to tie the game before halftime.

I just don't think you can read too much into how any game turns out. It's like saying that we are better than Ohio State because we scored three more TDs than they did against Purdue.
 
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Arizona state or Boise would’ve been easier but UGA without Beck is a great matchup. Me matchup very well with UGA
Not to sure about that. Their backup QB Is a former 5 star and didn’t appear to show any nerves with his decisions and execution!!
 
I don't see that much difference in the Penn State and ND games against USC. Penn State won by 3 in OT. USC was threatening to tie the score against us with about 5 minutes to play. Sound like two close games to me. After Gray's incredible pick-6, USC was knocking on the door with a couple of minutes remaining to potentially pull within one score. It was not like we moved the ball at will on them in the fourth quarter. We had two spectacular plays at the end of the game to close it out.
How about this....

Usc was up in the game 20 to 3. And PSU had to convert two fourth downs to tie the game up with less than 2 mins left..USC led more game time then they trailed

And.....ND never trailed in the game
 
How about this....

Usc was up in the game 20 to 3. And PSU had to convert two fourth downs to tie the game up with less than 2 mins left..USC led more game time then they trailed

And.....ND never trailed in the game
Biggest USC 1H lead was 17-3. PSU kicked a field goal to make it 17-6.

The rest of your recap is correct. The two fourth down plays were splendid passes by Drew Allar.
 
How about this....

Usc was up in the game 20 to 3. And PSU had to convert two fourth downs to tie the game up with less than 2 mins left..USC led more game time then they trailed

And.....ND never trailed in the game
How about so what? Games take many different forms. We beat Georgia Tech handily; Georgia took something like 8 OTs. By your reasoning, bring 'em on. We should win by two or three TDs.
 
Biggest USC 1H lead was 17-3. PSU kicked a field goal to make it 17-6.

The rest of your recap is correct. The two fourth down plays were splendid passes by Drew Allar.
Yeah. Then it was 20 to 6
 
How about so what? Games take many different forms. We beat Georgia Tech handily; Georgia took something like 8 OTs. By your reasoning, bring 'em on. We should win by two or three TDs.
How about you are the one who said you didn't see much of a difference in the 2 games. That was you. Not me

I just pointed out how they were 2 completely different games

So what? That's what
 
How about you are the one who said you didn't see much of a difference in the 2 games. That was you. Not me

I just pointed out how they were 2 completely different games

So what? That's what
No kidding they were different. Every game is different. I just pointed out that both games were tight late. With five minutes to play, either team could have won in both cases. I don't care if Penn State had to come back against USC or USC had to come back against us. The one that went to OT could have been won by either team in regulation and the one that didn't could very well have gone to OT.

You can have the final word.
 
No kidding they were different. Every game is different. I just pointed out that both games were tight late. With five minutes to play, either team could have won in both cases. I don't care if Penn State had to come back against USC or USC had to come back against us. The one that went to OT could have been won by either team in regulation and the one that didn't could very well have gone to OT.

You can have the final word.
There was a difference in the two games. USC was far more competitive against Penn State than they were against Notre Dame, IMO.
 
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No kidding they were different. Every game is different. I just pointed out that both games were tight late. With five minutes to play, either team could have won in both cases. I don't care if Penn State had to come back against USC or USC had to come back against us. The one that went to OT could have been won by either team in regulation and the one that didn't could very well have gone to OT.

You can have the final word.
That similarity means about 60% of all games are the same. That's the only similarity between ND and PSU's trip to Pasadena. ND nodded when she gave up a garbage time TD to SC. That ends the comparison.
 
No kidding they were different. Every game is different. I just pointed out that both games were tight late. With five minutes to play, either team could have won in both cases. I don't care if Penn State had to come back against USC or USC had to come back against us. The one that went to OT could have been won by either team in regulation and the one that didn't could very well have gone to OT.

You can have the final word.
That similarity means about 60% of all games are the same. That's the only similarity between ND and PSU's trip to Pasadena. ND nodded when she gave up a garbage time TD to SC. That ends the comparison.
 
That similarity means about 60% of all games are the same. That's the only similarity between ND and PSU's trip to Pasadena. ND nodded when she gave up a garbage time TD to SC. That ends the comparison.
Not to quibble, but the trip was to the LA Coliseum, not Pasadena
 
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It was a screw job because we are above Penn St. But as often is true in screwing, we cannot complain when we screwed ourselves. You can't lose to NIU at home and get people to listen to your case.
 
ND should have a cake walk through IU and Georgia. Could not ask for anything better
 
It was a screw job because we are above Penn St. But as often is true in screwing, we cannot complain when we screwed ourselves. You can't lose to NIU at home and get people to listen to your case.
While you’re correct about the NIU loss, the committee still screwed us

They deliberately paired ND against Indiana to avoid a team from the south having to play Notre Dame on December 20
 
Hell, I’m just stoked we’re in the playoffs. Hope Freeman and the players have a chip on their shoulders, and focus entirely on Indiana and their 11-1 record. It’s the only matchup where our home field advantage is minimized. If we think we are NC quality, then our path is very doable. We damn well better have Cross available and playing at a high level. Our lack of pressure from our edges is a glaring weakness. Hope Golden can continue to work his magic with disguised blitzes, etc… to compensate. Beat the damn Hossiers!
"Hell, I’m just stoked we’re in the playoffs."

Hell yea! Instead of bitching about the path -- this is a perfect opportunity for ND to prove itself on the big stage! This is what Freeman and the program wanted --

Words from Cignetti -- I hope ND takes this to heart --
"How are we not, right now, seeded for a home game?” Cignetti said after listing the losses of all the one-loss teams heading into Saturday. “That’s what I want to know.” Cignetti even mentioned Notre Dame's loss to Northern Illinois by name, which could become bulletin board in the coming days."
 
"Hell, I’m just stoked we’re in the playoffs."

Hell yea! Instead of bitching about the path -- this is a perfect opportunity for ND to prove itself on the big stage! This is what Freeman and the program wanted --

Words from Cignetti -- I hope ND takes this to heart --
"How are we not, right now, seeded for a home game?” Cignetti said after listing the losses of all the one-loss teams heading into Saturday. “That’s what I want to know.” Cignetti even mentioned Notre Dame's loss to Northern Illinois by name, which could become bulletin board in the coming days."
That’s disappointing from Cignetti. They missed out on playing Oregon and Penn State (also missed out on 9-3 Illinois), lost to Ohio State, no Power 4 teams out of conference, and played an FCS.

Their best win is 7-5 Michigan. I wish some of these coaches would keep their mouths closed.
 
That’s disappointing from Cignetti. They missed out on playing Oregon and Penn State (also missed out on 9-3 Illinois), lost to Ohio State, no Power 4 teams out of conference, and played an FCS.

Their best win is 7-5 Michigan. I wish some of these coaches would keep their mouths closed.
The in-state schools haven't played since 1991 and when ESPN introduced Hoosiers coach Curt Cignetti to their CFP Rankings Show on Sunday afternoon, the graphic reminded folks IU hasn't won in South Bend since 1898.

"I see that 1898 on there think we accomplished a lot things that they haven’t accomplished since 1898 this year," Cignetti quipped."
*Copied from the Indy Star

Game day can't get here soon enough!
 
The in-state schools haven't played since 1991 and when ESPN introduced Hoosiers coach Curt Cignetti to their CFP Rankings Show on Sunday afternoon, the graphic reminded folks IU hasn't won in South Bend since 1898.

"I see that 1898 on there think we accomplished a lot things that they haven’t accomplished since 1898 this year," Cignetti quipped."
*Copied from the Indy Star

Game day can't get here soon enough!
“Like what?” would be my response to the 1898 remark. It’s too bad that these coaches get to say what they want with impunity.
 
“Like what?” would be my response to the 1898 remark. It’s too bad that these coaches get to say what they want with impunity.
I think Cignetti is using the seeding as a motivation for his team to feel disrespected and to come to South Bend angry and with a chip on their collective shoulders. I kind of like his feisty character, the little I’ve seen/read.
 

Basically what we learned is not only can ND NOT get a 1-4 seed and a bye....We learned the losing conf champion from those conferences will be placed above ND. What a joke.......If ND's only loss this year was to TA&M, we still finish 7th with a "They couldnt even get to the championship and lost to an OK Texas team....LOL
 
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I think Cignetti is using the seeding as a motivation for his team to feel disrespected and to come to South Bend angry and with a chip on their collective shoulders. I kind of like his feisty character, the little I’ve seen/read.
Yeah you’re probably right and I like the feisty-ness too. I’m just not a fan of saying things that are untrue/unfair, especially when the person knows this to be the case.

Like the 1898 comment. Ok, name them coach haha.
 
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Basically what we learned is not only can ND NOT get a 1-4 seed and a bye....We learned the losing conf champion from those conferences will be placed above ND. What a joke.......If ND's only loss this year was to TA&M, we still finish 7th with a "They couldnt even get to the championship and lost to an OK Texas team....LOL
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Yeah you’re probably right and I like the feisty-ness too. I’m just not a fan of saying things that are untrue/unfair, especially when the person knows this to be the case.

Like the 1898 comment. Ok, name them coach haha.
I might be reading this wrong, but I understand him to say this years Indiana team has accomplished things that they hadn’t since 1898. Being 11-1 and in the playoffs for the NC and having the number one rushing defense in the Big, etc…. I didn’t read his comment as having anything to do with ND, just touting this year’s team as highly accomplished and special. I don’t disagree.
 
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I might be reading this wrong, but I understand him to say this years Indiana team has accomplished things that they hadn’t since 1898. Being 11-1 and in the playoffs for the NC and having the number one rushing defense in the Big, etc…. I didn’t read his comment as having anything to do with ND, just touting this year’s team as highly accomplished and special. I don’t disagree.
Makes sense and thanks for clarifying.
 
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