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Dawg to the bone: Curious your thoughts on the reality of class rankings on recruiting. Do you think there is a big difference between 1 and 5 or 7 and 11. how accurate is it? I realize that it should be weighed in a game but some of rankings have to be overstated. considering some kids may not go to these camps for a variety of reasons and what makes your 4 * better than mine..
 
Dawg to the bone: Curious your thoughts on the reality of class rankings on recruiting. Do you think there is a big difference between 1 and 5 or 7 and 11. how accurate is it? I realize that it should be weighed in a game but some of rankings have to be overstated. considering some kids may not go to these camps for a variety of reasons and what makes your 4 * better than mine..

That is a great point. I do think those top three or so (lately Alabama, Ohio State and maybe USC or LSU lately) make a difference. They are stacked and deep. I do think that there probably is not that much difference in the next ten or so. Recruiting is not an exact science. The talent has to be correctly evaluated and then developed. Then there are the character issues. Look at Michigan State (not last year, but previous). I never see them in the top 20 recruiting wise, yet they seem to have developed talented players. They may be the exception, but they do sort of prove a point. That is why sometimes that 3 star QB or RB is better than those 5 stars. In a couple of positions we have a walk on and a 2 star playing in front of 4 and 5 stars. I am quite sure Coach Smart is playing the best player.

I guess my answer to that question is that you would rather take your chances with a loaded roster recruiting wise because your odds of having better players is better. However, I am not sure there is that much difference between the #5 class and the #10 class.

It almost seems that it comes down sometimes to hitting on three or four all stars on each side of the ball and then surrounding them with a capable supporting casts. That is where we are on defense with Smith at LBer and Thompson at DT. They are exceptional. Everyone else is very good. But they are proven difference makers. They were both 5 stars recruits. On offense the only proven elite players we have are Chubb and Michel. We have the Freshman 5 star QB, but he is unproven. We have other 5 stars as well, but so far they are good, not elite.
 
I can't believe our programs have not played more. We should try to play 2 out of 10 years going forward. To the OP, we have had our ups and downs like you guys, but from a talent perspective, we can put together top ten classes within a 200 mile radius of our campus, and do even in down years.

No body thinks we underachieve more than our fans. We win games we are not supposed to and by the same token, lose games we are not supposed to. We are similar to ND in the systemic road blocks our Administration creates compared to our peers.

Its hard to explain the South and college football, our stadium seats 93K and it could easily be over a 100K but the size of Athens and lack of a major interstate going thru it is more the limiting factor than support. I lived adjacent to Ohio State's campus, and most say OSU, Michigan, Penn State, Wisconsin, and Notre Dame all are similar to the South's love of College Football and the fanaticism that surrounds it. That said, many in other Midwestern, North Eastern and Western states do not understand.

We brought close to 40,000 fans to Arizona State and Colorado. We will have a bunch in Southbend as well.

Just hope for a hard fought game and no injuries for either team.
 
Honestly, his post didn't deserve a response. UGA's history speaks for itself and they are the richest team in tradition in all of the SEC. GaTech also has a rich history in the SEC but you have to go back many years.

GA Tech in ACC.
 
Honestly, his post didn't deserve a response. UGA's history speaks for itself and they are the richest team in tradition in all of the SEC. GaTech also has a rich history in the SEC but you have to go back many years.

Appreciate the kind words. Tradition encompasses far more than wins and as the first publicly chartered institution of higher learning in the US our tradition on and off the gridiron is truly storied and rich. Wins only? national championships? Our step-brothers in Tuscaloosa claim THAT title.................
 
What's the diff when I was born Tommy. It is now 2017 for both of us. Enjoy the game.
Because the only people that would think Navy is a bigger game than Georgia are A. Really old B. Not knowledgeable about college football IN 2017!!!!! Sheesh.
 
Because the only people that would think Navy is a bigger game than Georgia are A. Really old B. Not knowledgeable about college football IN 2017!!!!! Sheesh.
tommy, i'll try to focus better between my senior moments. By the way, did I already say that uga is not that big. It is important to our global picture and an interesting game, but it is not bigger. Lose to Navy and kiss off the playoffs. Is that not big enough? By the way we have a better chance of losing to Navy than to uga.
 
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I can't believe our programs have not played more. We should try to play 2 out of 10 years going forward. To the OP, we have had our ups and downs like you guys, but from a talent perspective, we can put together top ten classes within a 200 mile radius of our campus, and do even in down years.

No body thinks we underachieve more than our fans. We win games we are not supposed to and by the same token, lose games we are not supposed to. We are similar to ND in the systemic road blocks our Administration creates compared to our peers.

Its hard to explain the South and college football, our stadium seats 93K and it could easily be over a 100K but the size of Athens and lack of a major interstate going thru it is more the limiting factor than support. I lived adjacent to Ohio State's campus, and most say OSU, Michigan, Penn State, Wisconsin, and Notre Dame all are similar to the South's love of College Football and the fanaticism that surrounds it. That said, many in other Midwestern, North Eastern and Western states do not understand.

We brought close to 40,000 fans to Arizona State and Colorado. We will have a bunch in Southbend as well.

Just hope for a hard fought game and no injuries for either team.
No offense intended, but uga is way down on my list of who we should play 2/10 years. Outside of who we are stuck with in the ACC, we will play Wiscy and Michigan over the next few years. I loved the Texas series, the ohio state series, the PSU series, and others. Uga simply is not as appealing. I suggest that uga drops some of their division II games, come up north and west a little more and see how you stack up. You are a regional team and hold no appeal to me. Others feel different and that is fine. I am not on a mssion to change anyone's mind. I also hope that the game is injury free, that it is decided on the field and not by officials, and that all Georgians are safe from Irma.
 
Nationwide, non UGA-ND fans will be watching tomorrow's gridiron battle. Same can't be said for non ND-Purdue fans during that "battle".
Simply curiosity, nothing more. We have played Purdue for 90 years and we should continue. You probably feel the same way about GATech.
 
No offense intended, but uga is way down on my list of who we should play 2/10 years. Outside of who we are stuck with in the ACC, we will play Wiscy and Michigan over the next few years. I loved the Texas series, the ohio state series, the PSU series, and others. Uga simply is not as appealing. I suggest that uga drops some of their division II games, come up north and west a little more and see how you stack up. You are a regional team and hold no appeal to me. Others feel different and that is fine. I am not on a mssion to change anyone's mind. I also hope that the game is injury free, that it is decided on the field and not by officials, and that all Georgians are safe from Irma.

Man, what planet are you from? The Texas series was great, I will agree. So was the home and home with Oklahoma. If it were up to me, I would never play Ohio St. or Penn St. again. The hooligans that pass for the fans of Ohio St. are the worst in all of college football to deal with. Penn St. fans are only marginally better. Wisconsin is OK, but I am not interested in playing at pro stadiums.
You may not have noticed but the SEC has been the premier conference in the game for the past decade. If we can beat UGA, that tells me that are can play with the big boys. If you don't think UGA is an appealing match up, don't watch.
 
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Simply curiosity, nothing more. We have played Purdue for 90 years and we should continue. You probably feel the same way about GATech.

You are apparently a member of the 1% of ND fans who gives a fig about Purdue. Congrats. Go bang your drum.
 
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Please Topdeck, catch a breath. I've played at all levels. You have your opinion, i will take mine.

Yeah, you haven't played at "all levels."

This isn't opinion. It's fact. Intersectional matchups between traditionally strong programs, particularly when they are ranked, play a major role in determining how teams are ranked in the polls. Not just the teams involved, but for the rest of the country.

And stuff your condescending attitude.
 
We play in what is most years the best conference, so I do not feel we have to travel any more than we do to see how we stack up. The ACC was talking trash until the Sec schools beat everyone of them they played on opening weekend. In what is likely a down year for the sec.

It took Bama all they had to beat us in 13 before they blew your doors off.

I respect Notre Dame because of the tradition and history that helps make college football the greatest sport.

I am sure the sec would make room for you if you want to see how you stack up against the Titans of modern football. Be great to have you.
 
No offense intended, but uga is way down on my list of who we should play 2/10 years. Outside of who we are stuck with in the ACC, we will play Wiscy and Michigan over the next few years. I loved the Texas series, the ohio state series, the PSU series, and others. Uga simply is not as appealing. I suggest that uga drops some of their division II games, come up north and west a little more and see how you stack up. You are a regional team and hold no appeal to me. Others feel different and that is fine. I am not on a mssion to change anyone's mind. I also hope that the game is injury free, that it is decided on the field and not by officials, and that all Georgians are safe from Irma.

We have no DII schools on our schedule nor does any FCS school. And we really don't need to "come up north" as you say as we beat the Big 10 with impunity in bowl games every other year. Mostly, because we end up 9-3 and have no other bowl game options.............:)
 
The thing I like about CFB is that it's unpredictable. Teams that are better on paper often lose. Teams with superior talent as measured by star ratings often lose to lesser teams. Virtually all of the players are in their teens and twenties. All you have to do is think back to some of the stupid things you did at that age. Now Imagine performing in front of live TV with national and international coverage and crowds of 60,000 to 100,000+. Not even the Pro's do that for the most part. On top of all that imagine coming out of a broken home or even a high crime ghetto setting. Unpredictable..........lots of reasons why.

So considering that ND and Georgia are fairly evenly matched...........the team that makes the most mistakes (and that includes coaching decisions) will lose.

Thought: Keep a close eye on special teams performance and the kicking game as that could determine the winner.
 
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Really glad this tread was started. The real ND fan base is highly intelligent. Some of these characters, not so much! I simply asked the long form of the question as to why this game was considered big. I didn't (and still don't) think that it was big compared to others on our schedule and on theirs. However, It is an interesting game and does help our recruiting exposure (and theirs!). I didn't diss UGA or its tradition or the SEC or anything else. I want to win badly, but it's not a big game IMO on the micro-scale. It is for the PO picture as any game would be. USC is! Miami is! UF, UA for them is! Big under any circumstances. This is a two and out series. They are probably a 4-5 loss team, so at the end a win is not that big. I have seen Alabama, LSU, and Mississippi (I think) play here in the past. I, for one, am not "honored" that UGA took the money and national exposure and showed up here. Big whoop. I would have preferred that Michigan, Ohio State, or Penn State came in. They would be big.
I think that we are the better team and will win the game. 31-17 ND.
I hope that all Georgians are safe from Irma.
It's considered big cause it's a top 25 matchup and you haven't fared very well in those recently. You're coming off a 4-8 season and need a big win Saturday. Although, it would be nice for us to get this season started off on the right foot, at least from a national media perspective, you guys need this game more than us.
And your arrogance is showing here. You were once the kings of college football, but it's been a long, long time since that was so.

Over the last 5 years you have the 23rd best winning pct. in college football.
Ours is 14th and we saw fit to fire our coach after four of those years.
 
And if nothing else, winning might get Georgia fans to shut up about Alabama stomping us four years ago in the National Championship game as if their team was on the field.
 
Really glad this tread was started. The real ND fan base is highly intelligent. Some of these characters, not so much! I simply asked the long form of the question as to why this game was considered big. I didn't (and still don't) think that it was big compared to others on our schedule and on theirs. However, It is an interesting game and does help our recruiting exposure (and theirs!). I didn't diss UGA or its tradition or the SEC or anything else. I want to win badly, but it's not a big game IMO on the micro-scale. It is for the PO picture as any game would be. USC is! Miami is! UF, UA for them is! Big under any circumstances. This is a two and out series. They are probably a 4-5 loss team, so at the end a win is not that big. I have seen Alabama, LSU, and Mississippi (I think) play here in the past. I, for one, am not "honored" that UGA took the money and national exposure and showed up here. Big whoop. I would have preferred that Michigan, Ohio State, or Penn State came in. They would be big.
I think that we are the better team and will win the game. 31-17 ND.
I hope that all Georgians are safe from Irma.

I'm guessing then you fall into the category of "not so much!" Really you think this isn't a big game for ND? Yet you posted reasons to counter attack your own point!
 
And if nothing else, winning might get Georgia fans to shut up about Alabama stomping us four years ago in the National Championship game as if their team was on the field.
Yeah, it was pretty hard seeing that beat down to not think "what if" when we came so close.

Seems most on this board think ND will win and it's the exact opposite on the UGA boards.
For me, I'm 50/50, and think it'll come down who did the best job in the off season of repairing their weakest link. For us, that's the offensive line. For you, that's your defensive front seven.
Your QB is capable of throwing a decent ball, but I'd far rather see him do that than run. Hopefully we can contain him most of the day.
Our backs are great, but they need help to get going. Hopefully our OC has a plan to make that happen. Often times he does not.
 
Was listening to the ND podcast this morning and heard this is the first regular season trip for UGA north of the Mason-Dixon Line since 1965. That in itself is a big deal.
 
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Was listening to the ND podcast this morning and heard this is the first regular season trip for UGA north of the Mason-Dixon Line since 1965. That in itself is a big deal.
We have traveled outside the Southeast several times in the past ten years or so, just not north. Have gone to Arizona State, Colorado and Oklahoma State in the past 8 years. We are always scheduled to play 9 power 5 schools and play 10 more times than not recently. Still schedule an FCS school about every year though, which I wish they would do away with. But we're in a conference where most of them schedule one if not two every year and it's hard not to take an extra week off when everyone you're competing against does it as well.
 
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It's considered big cause it's a top 25 matchup and you haven't fared very well in those recently. You're coming off a 4-8 season and need a big win Saturday. Although, it would be nice for us to get this season started off on the right foot, at least from a national media perspective, you guys need this game more than us.
And your arrogance is showing here. You were once the kings of college football, but it's been a long, long time since that was so.

Over the last 5 years you have the 23rd best winning pct. in college football.
Ours is 14th and we saw fit to fire our coach after four of those years.
On to Samford next week after you handled App State last week.
 
On to Samford next week after you handled App State last week.
LOL, I'm not big on playing the FCS schools. Wish it weren't allowed and wish we wouldn't do it.

But App State? You just finished playing Temple and will play Miami OH later.
 
Seems most on this board think ND will win and it's the exact opposite on the UGA boards.
For me, I'm 50/50, and think it'll come down who did the best job in the off season of repairing their weakest link. For us, that's the offensive line. For you, that's your defensive front seven.

That's pretty much how I see it. I think it will also be about who cleaned up the most mistakes from week 1 to 2, and (as always) who can keep from turning the ball over.
 
On to Samford next week after you handled App State last week.

I will point this out, sometimes the Sanfords get scheduled after someone backs out of a series with us and we have to scramble to fill the schedule slot. We have had Ohio State and Oregon both back out of series with us. I am sure there are others. We try to have at least one strong out of conference opponent besides Tech every year. We opened with North Carolina last year, Clemson before that.
 
The last trip North they talk about was against Michigan in their hayday, we beat them and they cancelled their trip to Athens.
 
Nationwide, non UGA-ND fans will be watching tomorrow's gridiron battle. Same can't be said for non ND-Purdue fans during that "battle".
Akin to Georgia-vanderbilt, georgia-samford, or georgia-appy state, where even people who are georgia fans will be doing something better.
 
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LOL, I'm not big on playing the FCS schools. Wish it weren't allowed and wish we wouldn't do it.

But App State? You just finished playing Temple and will play Miami OH later.
i dunno. Temple has come off 2 10 win seasons. It's a nice opener. Miami, the cradle of coaches, not a bad game. Navy will cut block our whole DL, probably cause an injury, just as GA tech will do to your guys. Those are the games that need to go. Because of history we will never not play Navy.
 
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