Yeah, so let's just have the CFP with all SEC teams. That'll work.I dont know who actually watched the video that was posted, but Kiffin made the argument that when he's playing .500 teams in the SEC they are miles apart from the .500 teams in the other conferences. And he's right (the data confirms his thoughts on the matter) The .500 teams in the SEC are ranked in the 20s/30s/40s where the .500 teams in the other P4 conferences are ranked way down in the 50/60/70s
he also made the argument that a season is way more difficult when you are playing high quality teams every single week and the competition only has to get up for good teams once or twice the entire season.
LOL @ the entire board overlooking this table that i posted and still trying to defend the idea that the SEC isn't the best conference (by far) in college football.I posted this in another topic but it's pretty clear that the SEC is the best conference in the country. Its not even close.
The records in this table below are interconference records and interconference win percentage (only accounting for head to head matchups among the P4)
The F+ average is the average F+ of all the teams in the conference. The BIG10 F+ average is being brought down by Purdue and Northwestern who were terrible this season (ranked down in the 100s).
Top 25 & Top 50 F+ represent how many teams finished inside the top 25 & Top 50 in each P4 conference respectively.
F+ Avg Record Win% Top 25 F+ Top 50 F+ BIG10 0.173 7-9 43.8 6 11 ACC 0.313 10-12 45.5 4 8 BIG12 0.281 5-9 35.7 4 10 SEC 0.647 13-6 68.4 9 15
Basically the SEC is way out ahead of everybody by a country mile while the other 3 conferences are way more closely aligned than they were expected to be coming into the year.
Lets have a CFP that puts the 12 best teams in the country in the playoff regardless of their conference affiliation. If it happens to be 12 SEC teams, then so be it.Yeah, so let's just have the CFP with all SEC teams. That'll work.
This changes year to year depending on what teams they played. Last year, the SEC went 12-13.LOL @ the entire board overlooking this table that i posted and still trying to defend the idea that the SEC isn't the best conference (by far) in college football.
Lets have a CFP that puts the 12 best teams in the country in the playoff regardless of their conference affiliation. If it happens to be 12 SEC teams, then so be it.
The college football season is way too short (way too small of a sample size) to be giving Cinderella programs and conferences free rides and byes in the playoff that they clearly don't deserve.
There's going to be teams with first round byes that would be underdogs to the other 10 teams in the playoff (for example) which is absurd
Last year was an anomaly. If you expand the sample size out to 3, 6, 9, 12 years the SEC is by far the best conference in college football at least in the modern era (from a purely interconference record standpoint). If you look at the F+ data from last year, the SEC destroyed the other conferences. I'm only including win-loss records for the dinosaurs on this board who are as dense as a box of rocks and can't move on from it.This changes year to year depending on what teams they played. Last year, the SEC went 12-13.
And yet the BIG EAST is 27-19 vs the SEC, and 10-3 in bowl games vs the SEC. Again, it's what teams are scheduled year to year. SEC in recent years tends to schedule mostly the bottom dwellers of the other conferences, with maybe a 2-3 games vs the top tier teams.Last year was an anomaly. If you expand the sample size out to 3, 6, 9, 12 years the SEC is by far the best conference in college football at least in the modern era (from a purely interconference record standpoint). If you look at the F+ data from last year, the SEC destroyed the other conferences. I'm only including win-loss records for the dinosaurs on this board who are as dense as a box of rocks and can't move on from it.
F+ adjusts for opponent quality. Which is why we should be using only F+ to evaluate. That way it doesn't matter who is scheduled.And yet the BIG EAST is 27-19 vs the SEC, and 10-3 in bowl games vs the SEC. Again, it's what teams are scheduled year to year. SEC in recent years tends to schedule mostly the bottom dwellers of the other conferences, with maybe a 2-3 games vs the top tier teams.
And the ass-kissing of the SEC by you is overwhelming.F+ adjusts for opponent quality. Which is why we should be using only F+ to evaluate. That way it doesn't matter who is scheduled.
If you look at the SECs performance using ANY metric that adjusts for opponent quality the SEC is still BY FAR THE MOST DOMINATE CONFERENCE IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL IN THE MODERN ERA. BY EVERY METRIC IMAGINABLE
Only on an ND board full of homers is this even a point that is argued against.
The homerism on this forum is overwhelming
Then why is it that both SEC teams in the playoffs last season lost to a BIG 10 and PAC12 team? 😂 Again, it's easy to pad wins vs the bottom feeders of other conferences, BUT WHEN THEY ACTUALLY PLAY TOP TEAMS FROM OTHER CONFERENCES THEIR RECORD IS FAR FROM DOMINANTF+ adjusts for opponent quality. Which is why we should be using only F+ to evaluate. That way it doesn't matter who is scheduled.
If you look at the SECs performance using ANY metric that adjusts for opponent quality the SEC is still BY FAR THE MOST DOMINATE CONFERENCE IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL IN THE MODERN ERA. BY EVERY METRIC IMAGINABLE
Only on an ND board full of homers is this even a point that is argued against.
The homerism on this forum is overwhelming
why don't you go follow another team preferably in the SEC, since in your delusional mind ND is such a horrible program.Why do you guys want smoke blown up your ass? It makes no sense to me.
Ive never once argued that ND is a horrible program. I'm a fan of ND football. I don't have tolerance for misinformation, deception, and lies. I like to live in reality.why don't you go follow another team preferably in the SEC, since in your delusional mind ND is such a horrible program.
The reality is, ND is a top tier playoff team. You follow F+ and that system has ND 4th best, yet you continue to post negative sh1t about ND. So do you believe in the F+ or not? Chase, you're an immature child that has no balls.Ive never once argued that ND is a horrible program. I'm a fan of ND football. I don't have tolerance for misinformation, deception, and lies. I like to live in reality.
The reality is that you never played football and know nothing about the game. You rely on the opinions of others with their little charts to formulate your own opinion.Ive never once argued that ND is a horrible program. I'm a fan of ND football. I don't have tolerance for misinformation, deception, and lies. I like to live in reality.
I rely on the best available information to formulate my opinions like anybody else with any common sense and critical thinking skills would.The reality is that you never played football and know nothing about the game. You rely on the opinions of others with their little charts to formulate your own opinion.
No you don't, because you admitted, that you have no proof ND is not doing enough, so stop your bullsh1t dude, you're a loser, that has no backbone. You call others out on here for spreading misinformation, yet you call out ND and how you believe they aren't running things correctly, yet fail to provide proof, so just stfu already you are a piece of sh1t.I rely on the best available information to formulate my opinions like anybody else with any common sense and critical thinking skills would.
If you had played anything other than chess you would know that once the ball is snapped those charts and graphs go out the window.I rely on the best available information to formulate my opinions like anybody else with any common sense and critical thinking skills would.
No, it didn't happen!The SEC is getting enough teams in. When Bama gets in, regardless of the results of CCGs, thanks to the committee juicing it for them, they're going to get four. That's enough. It wouldn't be Ole Miss in any event.
More F+ bs. You are a piece of work.F+ adjusts for opponent quality. Which is why we should be using only F+ to evaluate. That way it doesn't matter who is scheduled.
If you look at the SECs performance using ANY metric that adjusts for opponent quality the SEC is still BY FAR THE MOST DOMINANT CONFERENCE IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL IN THE MODERN ERA. BY EVERY METRIC IMAGINABLE
Only on an ND board full of homers is this even a point that is argued against.
The homerism on this forum is overwhelming
I know, justice was served. The committee would have loved to have done it, but there was too much heat. They were being called out preemptively by multiple conference commissioners, plus there's the angle that they would delegitimize the precious CCGs themselves, which are superfluous they way the conferences are currently arranged, if they insisted on playing them anyway, but spurred outcry by also using them as an expedient 'data point' to strong-arm more deserving teams out of the field in favor of their SEC cronies. It would have been too outrageous to leave SMU out.No, it didn't happen!
Chase thinks SEC teams can compete with NFL teams😂. He had zero credibilty to begin with but this DQ's him from ever talking football. Dumbest person on this board.No you don't, because you admitted, that you have no proof ND is not doing enough, so stop your bullsh1t dude, you're a loser, that has no backbone. You call others out on here for spreading misinformation, yet you call out ND and how you believe they aren't running things correctly, yet fail to provide proof, so just stfu already you are a piece of sh1t.
Yeah, that is so effed up. You think he would've learned by 7th grade that no college team can compete with the NFL, assuming he is past the 7th grade, at least mentally.Chase thinks SEC teams can compete with NFL teams😂. He had zero credibilty to begin with but this DQ's him from ever talking football. Dumbest person on this board.
Indy is 10 by F+…..so why are you demeaning them in other threads?F+ adjusts for opponent quality. Which is why we should be using only F+ to evaluate. That way it doesn't matter who is scheduled.
If you look at the SECs performance using ANY metric that adjusts for opponent quality the SEC is still BY FAR THE MOST DOMINANT CONFERENCE IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL IN THE MODERN ERA. BY EVERY METRIC IMAGINABLE
Only on an ND board full of homers is this even a point that is argued against.
The homerism on this forum is overwhelming
You're, giving chase too much credit. Change the word chess to candy land makes more sense.If you had played anything other than chess you would know that once the ball is snapped those charts and graphs go out the window.
And tell Dabo Swinney that when you play in the ACC, losing at home to South Carolina in game 12 doesn’t count.Tell lane that the SEC champ needed a miracle comeback down two TDs w/ 5 minutes to go to beat a 7-5 ACC team on the last game of the regular season. Enough w/ the fawning over the SEC. It never proves to be true top to bottom during the regular season or bowl season.
South Carolina 17Clemson should’ve won that game by two TDs. Squandered multiple red zone trips but I know talking to you about the sec is like talking to you about Brian Kelly’s salary, you adore it so no use continuing.
Should haves. Could haves.No spin, watch the game. If you don’t think Clemson should’ve won, I don’t know what to tell you. Georgia should’ve lost to ga tech. Clemson should’ve beaten scar. Spin that all you want, but that’s what happened.
Should have could have..story of your lifeShould haves. Could haves.
“The payoff is on the scoreboard.”
He’s the laughingstock of the board and doesn’t realize it.Chase thinks SEC teams can compete with NFL teams😂. He had zero credibilty to begin with but this DQ's him from ever talking football. Dumbest person on this board.
So Lincoln got ‘paid off’ 6 times this year? And Lane paid off 3x? And Kelly 11 times in last 35 games?Should haves. Could haves.
“The payoff is on the scoreboard.”
Who's to say what the best 12 teams are??? SEC plays no meaningful out of conference games. Bama got slapped around by Oklahoma who isn't that good. Ole Miss lost to three unranked teams.I'd rather just see the 12 best teams in the playoff The games will be more exciting and the team that prevails the tournament will get far more respect as a national champion
Are you new here? SEC teams can compete with NFL teams.Who's to say what the best 12 teams are??? SEC plays no meaningful out of conference games. Bama got slapped around by Oklahoma who isn't that good. Ole Miss lost to three unranked teams.
That's eventually what's going to happen. There's going to be a super league. With a regular, recognizable playoff format. Or we could just stick with this, and the SEC could just deal with it when they only get three teams. It's a zero sum game. They're probably better off the way it is. A super league would dilute their advantage, as the recruiting would tend to level out. You would think it certainly would.I am not sure what to feel about the playoffs right now in how they're decided. I feel like its pretty flawed at the moment.
To be honest, I feel like setting up college ball like the NFL divisions and leagues would end this talk. Play your way into the playoffs.
Problem is, the conferences themselves have so much clout and the money is pushing a lot of this. Conf championship games are irrelevent other than seeding. PSU as example. They were a lock for a spot. For whats it worth, they could have played their third string in that game, kept all starters healthy and got ready for playoffs. I wonder how many teams are going to figure out a loophole like this and do exactly that moving forward.