At least, Clemson got to their conference championship game. Dis Alabama, South Carolian, or Mississippi? Those teams need to win or be quiet.
Lane Kiffin "You might as well be in different leagues, not conferences, different leagues…”
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Place Clemson in the SEC, Dabo has zero shot at the CFB Playoff.
Georgia and South Carolina proved that.
Agree. That doesn’t mean the 12 best teams are in the playoff.
Hell, some are saying 12-1 Army should be in the playoff.
And Florida where his QB sh*t the bed in the 4th quarter plus he lost to Kelly which is hard to do these days.
Opinion, mostly. Still, is the FBS championship or just the SEC championship. Win to get into the tournament, or just be quiet. No 3-loss team belongs. I have misgivinsg about 2-loss teams.
The teams that make conference championship games deserve admission into the playoff more than those who do not make their championship games.
I posted this in another topic but it's pretty clear that the SEC is the best conference in the country. Its not even close.
The records in this table below are interconference records and interconference win percentage (only accounting for head to head matchups among the P4)
The F+ average is the average F+ of all the teams in the conference. The BIG10 F+ average is being brought down by Purdue and Northwestern who were terrible this season (ranked down in the 100s).
Top 25 & Top 50 F+ represent how many teams finished inside the top 25 & Top 50 in each P4 conference respectively.
Basically the SEC is way out ahead of everybody by a country mile while the other 3 conferences are way more closely aligned than they were expected to be coming into the year.
The records in this table below are interconference records and interconference win percentage (only accounting for head to head matchups among the P4)
The F+ average is the average F+ of all the teams in the conference. The BIG10 F+ average is being brought down by Purdue and Northwestern who were terrible this season (ranked down in the 100s).
Top 25 & Top 50 F+ represent how many teams finished inside the top 25 & Top 50 in each P4 conference respectively.
| F+ Avg | Record | Win% | Top 25 F+ | Top 50 F+ | |
| BIG10 | 0.173 | 7-9 | 43.8 | 6 | 11 |
| ACC | 0.313 | 10-12 | 45.5 | 4 | 8 |
| BIG12 | 0.281 | 5-9 | 35.7 | 4 | 10 |
| SEC | 0.647 | 13-6 | 68.4 | 9 | 15 |
Basically the SEC is way out ahead of everybody by a country mile while the other 3 conferences are way more closely aligned than they were expected to be coming into the year.
How have you not realized f+ is a lousy ranking system? Once you realize this, the better for you. Good luck.
If they are the best than why is it they were 10-7 vs the other power conferences?
Then maybe they should boycott the playoff system and be satisfied with SEC championship. If they do not wish to boycott, they should win their games of be quiet.
Then why is it the SEC was just 10-7 vs the other power conferences?
Here is the site that lists interconference records (these records only account for P4 head to head matchups): The SEC is the only conference with a winning interconference record at 13-6
topdan.com
2024 College Football Conference Records - topdan.com
Complete list of inter-conference football games for the 2024 college football season.
topdan.com
None of the conferences has to better, or the best. Teams owrk for success and deserve a chance that they have earned.
Three loss teams have not earned it.
I dont know who actually watched the video that was posted, but Kiffin made the argument that when he's playing .500 teams in the SEC they are miles apart from the .500 teams in the other conferences. And he's right (the data confirms his thoughts on the matter) The .500 teams in the SEC are ranked in the 20s/30s/40s where the .500 teams in the other P4 conferences are ranked way down in the 50/60/70s
he also made the argument that a season is way more difficult when you are playing high quality teams every single week and the competition only has to get up for good teams once or twice the entire season.
he also made the argument that a season is way more difficult when you are playing high quality teams every single week and the competition only has to get up for good teams once or twice the entire season.
Of course Lane Kiffin is going to set that, but yet the SEC was just 10-7 against the other Piwer conference teams.
Are you watching the boring SEC championship game? 6-3 at half, and that powerhouse Georgia with 54 total yards of offense. It's a snooze fest.
This doesn't include Texas Am losing to ND. Or Vandy losing to Toledo or Vandy losing to Ga SouthernHere is the site that lists interconference records (these records only account for P4 head to head matchups): The SEC is the only conference with a winning interconference record at 13-6
2024 College Football Conference Records - topdan.com
Complete list of inter-conference football games for the 2024 college football season.
It also doesn't include any of the other P4 conferences' losses vs non P4. Whats your point?
Just pointing out they have other bad losses as well.
Also you always say ND is acc but you didn't count them in there
You can argue all you want regarding who are the top 12 teams, you'll never get anywhere. But the point is to have enough quality teams getting a chance for the championship. Does anyone think that 12 teams isn't enough teams for a playoff?
I would argue that is already baked into the rankings. I would also argue that SEC schools get better recruits b/c of the pedigree of the league. If he were to move to i.e. to the Mountain West conference his recruits would have lower star ratings. Kiffen is also being outrecruited by his peers. He can't even land Deuce Knight from his home state who chose an unranked team over his. He should be worrying about that instead.
The SEC is getting enough teams in. When Bama gets in, regardless of the results of CCGs, thanks to the committee juicing it for them, they're going to get four. That's enough. It wouldn't be Ole Miss in any event.
12 is a good limit and you can even make the case that 10 would suffice.
12 is enough and creates the right amount of drama IMO. Exclusive but not super exclusive. Sadly, like other leagues, more more more teams. They can hardly wait before adding.
It’s ridiculous.
