It is threads like this that contribute to the fact that this and most internet message boards eat shit
look, ND is not going to catch or supplant the Bama's who sell out to win! UM included now; but ND fans just hope for the best and most exciting team possible given the circumstances and decision model set for the football program within the academic standard chosen.
unnerstand?
What evil doer put the curse on us which has these guys coming back with new screen names over and over again? Who did we piss off that badly?Not a bad class. Probably will finish 12-15...par for Kelly. Some nice players but no difference makers. Robertson may come but most likely not based on the desire to go to Stanford. So he will drag NSD until the spring. Forget Jones and McC...no chance. C. Kelly 100-1 longshot.
So this is it. Some 4 stars and a lot of 3 stars. In rivals, quantity surely matters. Good class but no progress made above other classes. Similar to the team. 10-2 against weak competition. A normal ND schedule would have spelled another 8-5 season. Running in place.
And we lost all of out good players. so another 8-5 season is on the horizon. After that, maybe 9-4 and then back to 8-5. Shit...it is really sad.
No DL. No Teo like LB's. Yeah, some galuts at OL. Pride as the marque recruit on defense. Sad.
haha
your #3 in your own conference and not likely to have influence to hurt anyone's feelings.
Maybe I'm wrong but I could swear that OSU ended up as the HIGHEST ranked Big 10 team, and had the best record of any Big 10 team.actually we're #4 in our own conference. The #3 team just rolled ND in the Fiesta Bowl. #ouch
Lets see - Iowa & MSU crucified in bowl games - Michigan totally crushed by OSU - depleted ND gave them a game - Nice try!actually we're #4 in our own conference. The #3 team just rolled ND in the Fiesta Bowl. #ouch
Maybe I'm wrong but I could swear that OSU ended up as the HIGHEST ranked Big 10 team, and had the best record of any Big 10 team.
Rom you didn't clarify. Are you talking who's #1 through #4 NOW, or who was #1 through #4 in mid December? I went with the NOW.correct. AFTER the bowl games. Might want to check the final regular season rankings as determined by the Playoff Committee. MSU, Iowa, OSU in that order. Of course, I'm sure what you guys say carries more weight than what the Committee said. Let's not get sidetracked though. I'm still waiting on Perse to reply with an answer to the question above: what rule has Harbaugh broken?
Umm - I guess in Michigan people {leaded water} accept that the Head Coach wants to sleep around with the players - too bad Penn State wasn't in Ann Arbor - all would have been fine.correct. AFTER the bowl games. Might want to check the final regular season rankings as determined by the Playoff Committee. MSU, Iowa, OSU in that order. Of course, I'm sure what you guys say carries more weight than what the Committee said. Let's not get sidetracked though. I'm still waiting on Perse to reply with an answer to the question above: what rule has Harbaugh broken?
Not a bad class. Probably will finish 12-15...par for Kelly. Some nice players but no difference makers. Robertson may come but most likely not based on the desire to go to Stanford. So he will drag NSD until the spring. Forget Jones and McC...no chance. C. Kelly 100-1 longshot.
So this is it. Some 4 stars and a lot of 3 stars. In rivals, quantity surely matters. Good class but no progress made above other classes. Similar to the team. 10-2 against weak competition. A normal ND schedule would have spelled another 8-5 season. Running in place.
And we lost all of out good players. so another 8-5 season is on the horizon. After that, maybe 9-4 and then back to 8-5. Shit...it is really sad.
No DL. No Teo like LB's. Yeah, some galuts at OL. Pride as the marque recruit on defense. Sad.
And you sir are a coward.Perse, let him stand on his own. Please refrain from interjecting. This guy makes a living out of his 1-line put-downs and has done it to you multiple times. Do not bail him out.
TrollNot a bad class. Probably will finish 12-15...par for Kelly. Some nice players but no difference makers. Robertson may come but most likely not based on the desire to go to Stanford. So he will drag NSD until the spring. Forget Jones and McC...no chance. C. Kelly 100-1 longshot.
So this is it. Some 4 stars and a lot of 3 stars. In rivals, quantity surely matters. Good class but no progress made above other classes. Similar to the team. 10-2 against weak competition. A normal ND schedule would have spelled another 8-5 season. Running in place.
And we lost all of out good players. so another 8-5 season is on the horizon. After that, maybe 9-4 and then back to 8-5. Shit...it is really sad.
No DL. No Teo like LB's. Yeah, some galuts at OL. Pride as the marque recruit on defense. Sad.
Bump. I got attacked for my realistic post and it appears I was correct.
Average. No difference makers with limited upside. Even if Hayes stays at LB, he is unproven and has barely played over the last two years due to a chronic shoulder injury. Based on Kelly's inability to keep his players on the field, expect to see Hayes out with injuries his entire career. Again, a typical Kelly recruiting class with a 12-15 ranking (generous) reflective of his teams. Meanwhile Harbaugh is eating Kelly's lunch.With Hayes most likely moving to DE...
How are we doing at LB?
Thanks. So the injuty is recent which is not good. Still has not played in 2 years so God knows what we got hereTo clarify he didn't play his junior year b/c the custody battle between his parents resulted in him moving during the season so..
No, you got bashed because you act as though a 12-15 class might as well be number 125.Bump. I got attacked for my realistic post and it appears I was correct.
Average class that will not get us over the hump. Same old same old.No, you got bashed because you act as though a 12-15 class might as well be number 125.
This is a pretty darn good class. Some posters like you who worship Harbaugh act as though he has the best class of all time, but yet that's only ranked 6, so by my calculations that's only 7 spots higher than ND.
Not a bad class. Probably will finish 12-15...par for Kelly. Some nice players but no difference makers. Robertson may come but most likely not based on the desire to go to Stanford. So he will drag NSD until the spring. Forget Jones and McC...no chance. C. Kelly 100-1 longshot.
So this is it. Some 4 stars and a lot of 3 stars. In rivals, quantity surely matters. Good class but no progress made above other classes. Similar to the team. 10-2 against weak competition. A normal ND schedule would have spelled another 8-5 season. Running in place.
And we lost all of out good players. so another 8-5 season is on the horizon. After that, maybe 9-4 and then back to 8-5. Shit...it is really sad.
No DL. No Teo like LB's. Yeah, some galuts at OL. Pride as the marque recruit on defense. Sad.
When was the last time they engraved Stanford on the NC trophy?
Average. No difference makers with limited upside. Even if Hayes stays at LB, he is unproven and has barely played over the last two years due to a chronic shoulder injury. Based on Kelly's inability to keep his players on the field, expect to see Hayes out with injuries his entire career. Again, a typical Kelly recruiting class with a 12-15 ranking (generous) reflective of his teams. Meanwhile Harbaugh is eating Kelly's lunch.
At least Kelly got some decent WR's as usual. Does he realize there are other positions on the team?
Brother you're the one that's sad!!Not a bad class. Probably will finish 12-15...par for Kelly. Some nice players but no difference makers. Robertson may come but most likely not based on the desire to go to Stanford. So he will drag NSD until the spring. Forget Jones and McC...no chance. C. Kelly 100-1 longshot.
So this is it. Some 4 stars and a lot of 3 stars. In rivals, quantity surely matters. Good class but no progress made above other classes. Similar to the team. 10-2 against weak competition. A normal ND schedule would have spelled another 8-5 season. Running in place.
And we lost all of out good players. so another 8-5 season is on the horizon. After that, maybe 9-4 and then back to 8-5. Shit...it is really sad.
No DL. No Teo like LB's. Yeah, some galuts at OL. Pride as the marque recruit on defense. Sad.
Average. No difference makers with limited upside. Even if Hayes stays at LB, he is unproven and has barely played over the last two years due to a chronic shoulder injury. Based on Kelly's inability to keep his players on the field, expect to see Hayes out with injuries his entire career. Again, a typical Kelly recruiting class with a 12-15 ranking (generous) reflective of his teams. Meanwhile Harbaugh is eating Kelly's lunch.
At least Kelly got some decent WR's as usual. Does he realize there are other positions on the team?