Kelly strikes out - this is the class

[McIlhennyIrish]

Not a bad class. Probably will finish 12-15...par for Kelly. Some nice players but no difference makers. Robertson may come but most likely not based on the desire to go to Stanford. So he will drag NSD until the spring. Forget Jones and McC...no chance. C. Kelly 100-1 longshot.

So this is it. Some 4 stars and a lot of 3 stars. In rivals, quantity surely matters. Good class but no progress made above other classes. Similar to the team. 10-2 against weak competition. A normal ND schedule would have spelled another 8-5 season. Running in place.

And we lost all of out good players. so another 8-5 season is on the horizon. After that, maybe 9-4 and then back to 8-5. Shit...it is really sad.

No DL. No Teo like LB's. Yeah, some galuts at OL. Pride as the marque recruit on defense. Sad.

 

[NDSMC78]

Not a bad class. Probably will finish 12-15...par for Kelly. Some nice players but no difference makers. Robertson may come but most likely not based on the desire to go to Stanford. So he will drag NSD until the spring. Forget Jones and McC...no chance. C. Kelly 100-1 longshot.

So this is it. Some 4 stars and a lot of 3 stars. In rivals, quantity surely matters. Good class but no progress made above other classes. Similar to the team. 10-2 against weak competition. A normal ND schedule would have spelled another 8-5 season. Running in place.

And we lost all of out good players. so another 8-5 season is on the horizon. After that, maybe 9-4 and then back to 8-5. Shit...it is really sad.

No DL. No Teo like LB's. Yeah, some galuts at OL. Pride as the marque recruit on defense. Sad.

Where do these guys come from?

 

[TXNDFan88]

Thank you for your knowledgable and unbiased overview. Hopefully someone orders a pizza soon and you will be busy and not have time to take shots at ND and Kelly.

 

[McIlhennyIrish]

Thank you for your knowledgable and unbiased overview. Hopefully someone orders a pizza soon and you will be busy and not have time to take shots at ND and Kelly.

You're post made me hungry so I did in fact order a pizza. Your mother wanted me to tell you she will be home by 11, assuming there are no late orders after hours.

 

[perseverare]

was today NLI day? I missed all the excitement?

 

[McIlhennyIrish]

was today NLI day? I missed all the excitement?

Well actually, it was a few weeks ago. The media would rather have you believe it is in two weeks to keep you reading.

 

[McIlhennyIrish]

Where do these guys come from?

Reality. What is not realistic about this post? Please explain in your infinite wisdom. No snarky one liners criticizing others' opinions. What do you actually know and why. The floor is all yours...Let's hear from you. (Please, no other posters...lets hear from the nasty 1-liner guy who never comes up with his own thoughts but only attacks others. Don't bail him out please).

So..What are your thoughts about the recruiting class, how it differs from other classes, what holes it fills and who the difference makers will be...

 

[gipper04]

Not a bad class. Probably will finish 12-15...par for Kelly. Some nice players but no difference makers. Robertson may come but most likely not based on the desire to go to Stanford. So he will drag NSD until the spring. Forget Jones and McC...no chance. C. Kelly 100-1 longshot.

So this is it. Some 4 stars and a lot of 3 stars. In rivals, quantity surely matters. Good class but no progress made above other classes. Similar to the team. 10-2 against weak competition. A normal ND schedule would have spelled another 8-5 season. Running in place.

And we lost all of out good players. so another 8-5 season is on the horizon. After that, maybe 9-4 and then back to 8-5. Shit...it is really sad.

No DL. No Teo like LB's. Yeah, some galuts at OL. Pride as the marque recruit on defense. Sad.

Massengil Summer Fresh.

 

[McIlhennyIrish]

Reality. What is not realistic about this post? Please explain in your infinite wisdom. No snarky one liners criticizing others' opinions. What do you actually know and why. The floor is all yours...Let's hear from you. (Please, no other posters...lets hear from the nasty 1-liner guy who never comes up with his own thoughts but only attacks others. Don't bail him out please).

So..What are your thoughts about the recruiting class, how it differs from other classes, what holes it fills and who the difference makers will be...

Aside from Gipper's interruption, the floor is all yours...

 

[IRISH_FRIAR]

Not a bad class. Probably will finish 12-15...par for Kelly. Some nice players but no difference makers. Robertson may come but most likely not based on the desire to go to Stanford. So he will drag NSD until the spring. Forget Jones and McC...no chance. C. Kelly 100-1 longshot.

So this is it. Some 4 stars and a lot of 3 stars. In rivals, quantity surely matters. Good class but no progress made above other classes. Similar to the team. 10-2 against weak competition. A normal ND schedule would have spelled another 8-5 season. Running in place.

And we lost all of out good players. so another 8-5 season is on the horizon. After that, maybe 9-4 and then back to 8-5. Shit...it is really sad.

No DL. No Teo like LB's. Yeah, some galuts at OL. Pride as the marque recruit on defense. Sad.

To steal a quote from The Wizard of Oz.. "What would you do if you had a brain?"

 

[gipper04]

Reality. What is not realistic about this post? Please explain in your infinite wisdom. No snarky one liners criticizing others' opinions. What do you actually know and why. The floor is all yours...Let's hear from you. (Please, no other posters...lets hear from the nasty 1-liner guy who never comes up with his own thoughts but only attacks others. Don't bail him out please).

So..What are your thoughts about the recruiting class, how it differs from other classes, what holes it fills and who the difference makers will be...

There are a half dozen guys that are underrated in this class. Several DBs, a RB, the QB and at least 1 WR.
BTW, ND will possibly finish with Kelly, Jones and Robertson. 2 five stars and one undervalued 3 star. Plus, they may just get a preferred walk-on OL that could become a solid contributor.

 

[McIlhennyIrish]

Reality. What is not realistic about this post? Please explain in your infinite wisdom. No snarky one liners criticizing others' opinions. What do you actually know and why. The floor is all yours...Let's hear from you. (Please, no other posters...lets hear from the nasty 1-liner guy who never comes up with his own thoughts but only attacks others. Don't bail him out please).

So..What are your thoughts about the recruiting class, how it differs from other classes, what holes it fills and who the difference makers will be...

Still Waiting...

 

[NDSMC78]

Reality. What is not realistic about this post? Please explain in your infinite wisdom. No snarky one liners criticizing others' opinions. What do you actually know and why. The floor is all yours...Let's hear from you. (Please, no other posters...lets hear from the nasty 1-liner guy who never comes up with his own thoughts but only attacks others. Don't bail him out please).

So..What are your thoughts about the recruiting class, how it differs from other classes, what holes it fills and who the difference makers will be...

I can only quote what others on this thread have said. I don't know which of our many Chicken Little posters you are, but your gloom and doom approach is mere histrionics.

 

[McIlhennyIrish]

There are a half dozen guys that are underrated in this class. Several DBs, a RB, the QB and at least 1 WR.
BTW, ND will possibly finish with Kelly, Jones and Robertson. 2 five stars and one undervalued 3 star. Plus, they may just get a preferred walk-on OL that could become a solid contributor.

You are wrong but I want to hear from the resident asshole. I assume many other posters who have been the brunt of his sarcastic 1-liners would like to hear as well. So, other poster, please contain yourselves and let the sarcastic one share his knowledge...

 

[perseverare]

look, ND is not going to catch or supplant the Bama's who sell out to win! UM included now; but ND fans just hope for the best and most exciting team possible given the circumstances and decision model set for the football program within the academic standard chosen.

unnerstand?

 

[McIlhennyIrish]

I can only quote what others on this thread have said. I don't know which of our many Chicken Little posters you are, but your gloom and doom approach is mere histrionics.

Nice. Very football-centric. Is that all you have to contribute? Is that all you know about the game? Come on...there must be more. The way you criticize others...I am sure there must be some knowledge to back up your glib posts. Please provide an in-depth answer to the questions posed to you or forever be know as a fraud.

 

[NDSMC78]

You are wrong but I want to hear from the resident asshole. I assume many other posters who have been the brunt of his sarcastic 1-liners would like to hear as well. So, other poster, please contain yourselves and let the sarcastic one share his knowledge...

Boo hoo. NDSMC78 is making fun of me. Waaah. Waah. Waah.

 

[McIlhennyIrish]

look, ND is not going to catch or supplant the Bama's who sell out to win! UM included now; but ND fans just hope for the best and most exciting team possible given the circumstances and decision model set for the football program within the academic standard chosen.

unnerstand?

Perse, let him stand on his own. Please refrain from interjecting. This guy makes a living out of his 1-line put-downs and has done it to you multiple times. Do not bail him out.

 

[gipper04]

You are wrong but I want to hear from the resident asshole. I assume many other posters who have been the brunt of his sarcastic 1-liners would like to hear as well. So, other poster, please contain yourselves and let the sarcastic one share his knowledge...

OK wizard. I am wrong. You are correct. Now please explain why. I assume you are either a college coach or recruiting coordinator based on your expertise.
The floor is now yours to give your thoughts on each position I mentioned. I want an opinion on ND's class position by position. I will then refute you.

 

[NDSMC78]

Nice. Very football-centric. Is that all you have to contribute? Is that all you know about the game? Come on...there must be more. The way you criticize others...I am sure there must be some knowledge to back up your glib posts. Please provide an in-depth answer to the questions posed to you or forever be know as a fraud.

The fraud is you. Everyone recognizes that. How many times have you been banned now? But now you are on ignore. Good bye.

 

[McIlhennyIrish]

Boo hoo. NDSMC78 is making fun of me. Waaah. Waah. Waah.

That's it? Let's be clear, I did not consider your comments making fun of me. All posters are familiar with your responses. So answer the questions please. Let's find out what you know.

What are the strengths and weaknesses of this recruiting class?

What hole have we filled?

Who do you think will be immediate impact players and why?

 

[McIlhennyIrish]

The fraud is you. Everyone recognizes that. How many times have you been banned now? But now you are on ignore. Good bye.

LOL. Just like I figured. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSER. For all the other posters, pay no mind to this guy. He KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT THE GAME!!!!!!!

 

[die4irish]

hey be nice to the troll. hes just butt hurt Harbough didnt have a sleepover at his house.

 

[perseverare]

Perse, let him stand on his own. Please refrain from interjecting. This guy makes a living out of his 1-line put-downs and has done it to you multiple times. Do not bail him out.

no idea what or who you refer to since the poster is probsbly on ignore (for good reason: no ability to reason)

 

[88ND]

look, ND is not going to catch or supplant the Bama's who sell out to win! UM included now; but ND fans just hope for the best and most exciting team possible given the circumstances and decision model set for the football program within the academic standard chosen.

unnerstand?

Pers,
Not trying to add gasoline to this negative fire but I'm curious about something. Why are ND standard's excused all the time yet Stanford just keeps on rolling.


Moreover every team has injuries and certainly a lot more than we know of but they just keep on going.

I know we have higher than low standards to get in....I know we've had injuries but Christ everyone does. Why is it that everything has to ****ing go perfect for us to have a chance. ? !

 

[perseverare]

When was the last time they engraved Stanford on the NC trophy?

 

[artemis gordon]

Mr. Mciilhenny, you should try levity and self deprecation,it's far more entertaining than the tripe you posted. You come across like a young man that doesn't have a lot going on in life.

 

[88ND]

When was the last time they engraved Stanford on the NC trophy?

Not the point. If we are going down that road it's been 28 years for us. Probably before half the board was alive

 

[perseverare]

times change; no one is expecting the Carlisle Indians to win another NC either.

 

[88ND]

times change; no one is expecting the Carlisle Indians to win another NC either.

Ok..well you can continue to wallow in the excuses ...I want results.

 

[THUNDERSTRUCK111]

I'm waiting for the answer actually. To the op questions

 

[Classic Irish]

LOL. Just like I figured. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSER. For all the other posters, pay no mind to this guy. He KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT THE GAME!!!!!!!

Why are you responding to someone who put you on ignore? You do realize that they can't see your posts, right?

 

[cgvr]

Not a bad class. Probably will finish 12-15...par for Kelly. Some nice players but no difference makers. Robertson may come but most likely not based on the desire to go to Stanford. So he will drag NSD until the spring. Forget Jones and McC...no chance. C. Kelly 100-1 longshot.

So this is it. Some 4 stars and a lot of 3 stars. In rivals, quantity surely matters. Good class but no progress made above other classes. Similar to the team. 10-2 against weak competition. A normal ND schedule would have spelled another 8-5 season. Running in place.

And we lost all of out good players. so another 8-5 season is on the horizon. After that, maybe 9-4 and then back to 8-5. Shit...it is really sad.

No DL. No Teo like LB's. Yeah, some galuts at OL. Pride as the marque recruit on defense. Sad.

Did you get in trouble for smoking weed at ND? Carry on...

 

[jeeajl]

I hope th op is wrong but damn, he's owning a few of you on here. I would stop while I could, especially grumps, the one who could only muster the infamous "you are now on ignore " remark

 

[IrishBlooded]

Not a bad class. Probably will finish 12-15...par for Kelly. Some nice players but no difference makers. Robertson may come but most likely not based on the desire to go to Stanford. So he will drag NSD until the spring. Forget Jones and McC...no chance. C. Kelly 100-1 longshot.

So this is it. Some 4 stars and a lot of 3 stars. In rivals, quantity surely matters. Good class but no progress made above other classes. Similar to the team. 10-2 against weak competition. A normal ND schedule would have spelled another 8-5 season. Running in place.

And we lost all of out good players. so another 8-5 season is on the horizon. After that, maybe 9-4 and then back to 8-5. Shit...it is really sad.

No DL. No Teo like LB's. Yeah, some galuts at OL. Pride as the marque recruit on defense. Sad.

 

[perseverare]

Ok..well you can continue to wallow in the excuses ...I want results.

that is the answer. Recall the statement by Norman Dale:
"...this is your team....."

If you are looking for something else or something more, you will miss out appreciating the team you field.
Times changed; the college football landscape has changed. Heck, even the ball is probably different!

 

[Duo]

that is the answer. Recall the statement by Norman Dale:
"...this is your team....."

If you are looking for something else or something more, you will miss out appreciating the team you field.
Times changed; the college football landscape has changed. Heck, even the ball is probably different!

Pers...........

You really hit on something and I enlarged it above. Yep, the times they are a changing and changes are happening at ND in a big way. Here are a few random thoughts:

• Stadium expansion
• Field turf
• JUMBOTRON
• ND coaches and administrators attending ACC meetings
• Recruiting very young kids and all out emphasis on recruiting. Remember less than 2 years ago on this very message board posters said ND didn't even need to go after recruits.............that the recruits came to ND.
• Players expelled from ND but later allowed to re-enter and graduate.
• ND players transferring to various rivals.

With that said one can only speculate on other changes that may perhaps be happening now in the future.

• Joining the ACC full time in football
• Forming a whole new media network with ACC
• Allowing JUCOS into ND in some form or fashion
• Recruiting more foreign players
• An overhaul of broadcasting agreements

Let's hear any and all ideas about thoughts on future changes. Or, why they are likely or unlikely to happen. OK, there are personal biases and then there is what's likely to happen. Feel free to distinguish between the two and comment on both.

 

[Izo]

Recruiting is good this year , but anybody who follows ND ,knows that we need some dominant defensive rushers on the line .That and the fact we might not get Caleb puts a little bit of a damper on this year's recruiting .

 

[Duo]

Times changed; the college football landscape has changed. Heck, even the ball is probably different!
Pers...........

You really hit on something and I enlarged it above. Yep, the times they are a changing and changes are happening at ND in a big way. Here are a few random thoughts:

• Stadium expansion
• Field turf
• JUMBOTRON
• ND coaches and administrators attending ACC meetings
• Recruiting very young kids and all out emphasis on recruiting. Remember less than 2 years ago on this very message board posters said ND didn't even need to go after recruits.............that the recruits came to ND.
• Players expelled from ND but later allowed to re-enter and graduate.
• ND players transferring to various rivals.

With that said one can only speculate on other changes that may perhaps be happening now in the future.

• Joining the ACC full time in football
• Forming a whole new media network with ACC
• Allowing JUCOS into ND in some form or fashion
• Recruiting more foreign players
• An overhaul of broadcasting agreements

Let's hear any and all ideas about thoughts on future changes. Or, why they are likely or unlikely to happen. OK, there are personal biases and then there is what's likely to happen. Feel free to distinguish between the two and comment on both.

 

[kellys heroes 35]

Recruiting is good this year , but anybody who follows ND ,knows that we need some dominant defensive rushers on the line .That and the fact we might not get Caleb puts a little bit of a damper on this year's recruiting .

Tell that to the four DE's we recruited in this class I'm sure they would be encouraged by your optimism re their careers @ND

Just a reminder Hayes is the highest ranked d lineman we have had in 5 yrs and no he will not play OLB @ ND he will play DE