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I've posted how many times?
But would any other student get allowed back in school. Golson got a second chance because he was the starting QB for Notre Dame. He screwed the very people that had his back. Is that what a Notre Dame grad does?
Why do you keep selling this silliness? Everybody knew he was innocent from day one. If not for the hangover of the Winston situation the police would never have even charged Cook. They were trying to avoid looking bad again, and all they did was look bad again.
You seem to be asking a question in which you assume the answer is no, but, unless you haven't been paying attention, it has become quite clear over the last several years that the football program has no influence over academic issues. The honor code applies to all students. All students have a right to the same hearings, punishments, and rights of appeal. You can actually access the ND honor code over the internet. Of particular note is this item:
The Committee may decide the offense was flagrant, which is a violation of an unusually grave nature, and in this case it may recommend permanent dismissal of the student or dismissal with the option for the student to apply for readmission to the University after one or more semesters. A flagrant offense would be one which has all the characteristics of a major violation listed above (VII.D.2), plus further features which makes the offense more grave. For example, the student may have convinced a substantial number of classmates to participate in serious acts of dishonesty and led them in this endeavor; or the Committee may discover that the student engaged in several serious acts of dishonesty in the course in question, or serious acts of dishonesty in a number of courses.
You'll notice the above statement doesn't say, "Only starting QB's at the University may have the option to apply for readmission to the University after one or more semesters." In your effort to attack Golson, a person that was treated just like any other student and thus didn't screw over anyone who "had his back" (no one had his back if he wasn't given special treatment), you implied that the university itself has no integrity because it holds football players to a different code of conduct. Why do you have such a low opinion of the university?
Let's not forget that J. Winston threw 18 picks last year, and when it mattered most in a playoff against a weak Oregon opponent he melted down. Not sure this justifies Jimbo as the QB Whisperer yet. Maybe a better question is, who has he delivered the the NFL that has excelled?
The true test for both Jimbo and E.G. probably won't come until they play Clemson and Florida. Only then will we see if Jimbo trusts E.G.'s development. For Everett's part, can he carry FSU when it matters most?
As usual, this thread went off on a tangent, but as to the OPs original point: That we would be undefeated if Golson were QB.
Kizer was 19/34 with at least 5 dropped passes against Clemson. 324 yds 2 tds/1 int.
He ran for 60 yds and a TD. He played well enough for ND to win that game by Two TDs.
What exactly would Everett have done differently to have us undefeated at this point?
We've lost one game. The QB was not the reason.
I'm not bashing EG. I like him. But to say we would be undefeated with him as our QB is just plain silly.
Kizer was 19/34 with at least 5 dropped passes against Clemson. 324 yds 2 tds/1 int.
He ran for 60 yds and a TD. He played well enough for ND to win that game by Two TDs.
What exactly would Everett have done differently to have us undefeated at this point?
We've lost one game. The QB was not the reason.
I'm not bashing EG. I like him. But to say we would be undefeated with him as our QB is just plain silly.
Cecelia got it right... Kizer was not the reason for Clemson loss
Everett Golson is a great talent, running, passing and avoiding sacks..... IF he can become a mature leader and have a stiff spine through adversity is the question. He is a "fine young man" with good character and he will do well in what ever,, but looking at the state of QBs in the NFL,, there is a chance some team up there could use him.
Everett Golson is a great talent, running, passing and avoiding sacks..... IF he can become a mature leader and have a stiff spine through adversity is the question. He is a "fine young man" with good character and he will do well in what ever,, but looking at the state of QBs in the NFL,, there is a chance some team up there could use him.
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good grief! do some homework! Golson has 20 yrds rushing! he does not like running with the football and especially does not like contact! he can throw a football but he is NOT a QB.
I root for Kizer, MZ because they are the good character kids.
good grief! do some homework! Golson has 20 yrds rushing! he does not like running with the football and especially does not like contact! he can throw a football but he is NOT a QB.
I root for Kizer, MZ because they are the good character kids.
Golson will be back to 12-0 for FSU that was in 2012 12-0 for ND. FSU's offense line are stronger so allow Golson have time to pass. Golson vs Clemson come up soon.
Time to pass? Golson was running for his life most plays. He had zero time to pass. Most of the incompletions were throw aways to keep from getting sacked.
EG has rehabilitated from turnover purgatory and should progress with more focus. He is an immense QB talent,,, IF he can master the emotions.
"At FSU his role is low keyed; he is playing the role he played in 2012."
If 374 yards and 3TD's is 'Low Key" I'd like to see when he is let loose... Time to admit you were wrong... The kid is the real deal. Right now there is no comparison between EG's arm and Kizer's... Kizer can throw it, no doubt, but he is green and learning the position...
Everett has a chance to set a new record at FSU next week by completing over 237 consecutive passes without an INT and zero fumbles! Not too shabby. Hope everyone here is pulling for him!
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GO IRISH in a min.... The thing that was incredible about EG's performance today was how helpless his OL was... Most of the incompletions were bail throws. He got pounded over and over but got rid of the ball. Scrambled too many times to count. Stood in the pocket and made great throws with chaos around his head like wasps.
Tommy could have brought us to the NC game, he bailed out Golson repeatedly in 2012. Or we had other QB's that could have stepped up. It was the defense, and the rest of the team, that took us to the NC game, not Golson.
Except I just confirmed that Gunner Kiel was on that team. ND would have been just fine without Everett the cheat. Coach Kelly does well with first year QB's. Please don't ever respond to a post I make. They are over your head.
Except I just confirmed that Gunner Kiel was on that team. ND would have been just fine without Everett the cheat. Coach Kelly does well with first year QB's. Please don't ever respond to a post I make. They are over your head.
Are you talking bout the same Gunner that walked away from the team before he graduated
How has he been doing compared to Goldon?
You might want to stop making silly comments.
2 year starter before going down with a serious injury. We could have used him.
With our OL and skill players, he would still be playing.
And who is Goldon?
With our OL and skill players, he would still be playing.
And who is Goldon?
Wow! Didn't know that! I am pulling for him. And I am delighting in watching our next Freshman QB learn the ropes and continue to improve. I didn't start this to put down Kizer, he is gonna be a good one, I was just saying that I miss Golson's experience and arm.
As a fellow alum I wish him the best!
Since Gunner couldn't beat GolSon out what makes you think things would of been just as good?
My folks were in North Carolina during spring practice and the bellhop sees my dads ND hat and says "my cousin plays for ND". Then he says, "but he is transferring to FSU." My dad ask "really, who is
my folks went to North Carolina in the spring during NDs spring practice. The bellhop sees my dads ND hat and says " my cousin plays for Notre dame". Then proceeds to say "but he is transferring to FSU" my dad curious says "what's his name?" The Bellhop answers "Everett Golson". My dad is old school and almost hesitated to tell me so as not to start any unfounded rumors. We both thought nah he is in spring practice right now he could not be going to FSU. However, The only question we both had is "if this is true what the hell is he still doing taking snaps from the guys he supposedly competing with" that was pretty uncool - he only hurt the teammates he was playing with for the past several years. I give him credit for coming back after getting kicked out but if he truly knew he was leaving enough to tell a relative I am glad he is gone because his true character is not that of someone I want to see at the university.
Gunner has a shot at NFL he was tearing it up at Cincy before neck injury. Golson has zero chance to play in NFL he is a good college QB made good throws and lots of bad decisions trying to extend plays by running backwards and sideways instead of stepping up into pocket and he's not a natural runner. Golson is a product of good system and good players I don't see him carrying a team. Don't get me wrong he's good college QB but NFL QBs have elite package he's not close he had a clear ceiling exposed in CFB
Was one of the lessons while committing academic fraud you can survive if you are ND's qb?
Another qb lesson, after kicking/kneeing a cop you will miss the trip to Ireland?
Don't be shocked at this poster (or should I say poser). He is pathological and suffers from a severe form of mental illness. A certified psychopath. Ignore him.
Known by real ND fans as ND's embarrassment.
