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Does This Short Week Hurt the Irish?
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PSU got better than a bye. A game where they were running good reps with only a small chance of losing.
It would say that raw comp at its best if the conditions were the same for PSU. They played 2 shit teams and have had 2 easy unemotional games, and they've got 2 extra days rest . ND has been through a gauntlet, and they're playing on less than a weeks rest. And don't underestimate how the tragedy in New Orleans will affect the team either. Being there while terrible things happened, being locked down in hotel rooms, the schedule being turned upside down.....this all takes a physical and mental and emotional toll on the guys. It will take a heroic effort to beat PSU Thursday.
Folks correctly talk about how emotional the UGA game was. I'll add this- the IU game was emotional too. I was there, and I've never seen Notre Stadium like it was that night. It was absolutely electric on and off the field.
It is so incredibly difficult to have big energy and emotionally draining games back to back to back. It tests your limits. And it's absolutely contributed to the injury challenges that we're having. I'm certain that there is a connection. The boys are putting so much incredible effort into each play and each drive. It's amazing.
I'm concerned that this is all taking a major toll on the guys. I'm the biggest homer on the board, and I do think ND pulls it out Thursday. But we badly, badly need rest. I'm disappointed that the NCAA didn't give us Friday's game in the wake of what happened in NOLA last week. How could they not look at PSU having 2 extra days off, and not want to cut into that gap? An extra day would've done wonders (Cross and Love).
Freeman and the staff need to get 60 minutes out the boys Thursday. I think they can do it. But this ND team is being tested in ways that few college teams ever have before.
Normal 7 day schedule, Penn State, I have sneaky suspicion was doing more prep work on Georgia than ND. At this juncture of the season you are not doing much banging. So, my guess is ND will be physically prepared to get the job done in Miami. I live down here and looks like on gameday, we are looking at a high 67 and a low of 54, without a drop of rain in fhe forecast. PERFECT football weather
Do we know which day Notre Dame will travel to Florida? I know this is a playoff and not the typical Bowl Game reward of sunshine and warm weather but if it was up to me I would travel earlier than normal and practice at least once on grass similar to what the stadium has. Perhaps even at St. Thomas Aquinas.....can't hurt recruiting
Sure.
But, in fact, I was ONLY TALKING ABOUT ND. Texas and PSU both had easier routes to where they are now. As for ND, I NEVER BOUGHT INTO THE IDEA that its seed was favorable.
Again, to me it's SIMPLE. WILL ND HAVE ENOUGH GAS IN THE TANK OR NOT against an excellent PSU team?
This could very well be the toughest stretch of games any ND team has played in HISTORY.
So then, is this some historical run? Or will ND get STOPPED SHORT either this game or the next?
NO WAY TO KNOW.
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We play Boise next year. I think they are a good team. PSU is more talented than people think plus their coordinators are good too. We gotta play Boise so not smart to trash them.
It is what it is! The Irish either deal with it, or go home! It's that simple.
I believe the Irish will overcome!
I believe the Irish will overcome!
Never even mentioned that Penn State fought like hell to beat Oregon in the Big 10 title game, played an extra game; meanwhile, Notre Dame took that week off. Rested. This stuff cuts both ways.
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Playing 13 games as opposed to 12.... playing Oregon on December 7 for the Big 10 title, matters as well. At least mention it in fairness. Playing conference title games... and getting beat... matters.
No doubt. You're right, it's a fair take.
I'm just concerned those 3 days in NOLA took a ton out of us. ND is gonna be absolutely tested physically and mentally and emotionally on Thursday.
No, it doesn’t, it’s not even close.
The sugar bowl game didn’t end until close to midnight
Then you have to dive deeper and consider that Notre Dame had to travel from NOLA back to South Bend after the sugar bowl, and then they have to travel down to Miami for Thursday’s game.
The loss of a day is very impactful
An additional day also allows for recovery from injuries and general fatigue
Midnight in London England? The game started at 4:00 PM Eastern....3:00 PM New Orleans....game was done 8 PM and I am sure the team was home in South Bend by Midnight..,,which is earlier than most of their road games this year. The team assuming still in SB has slept 5 nights in their own beds....(or wherever they have put them up) and the travel is all within time zone / 1 hour max as well as flights all less than 3 hours.
What time do you think they arrived back at South Bend …… midnight or later
What time do you think they got to bed that night? 2:00am or later ?
They arrived in Miami today, so how much work do you think they got in today
They have tomorrow and then the game is the next day
That’s not a lot of time to prepare to play against one of the best teams in the country
So the answer to the question is that the short week hurts them?
I know I did not play a football game but I did go on a bender to Cabo and travelled almost 12 hours home due to delays on the 4th and hit bed at 3:00 AM. I was a little tired on the 5th but felt great on the 6th despite the two hour time difference...work, hit the gym........I am over 50...they will be fine.
The flight would have been less than 2 hours in the air....home and in bed by midnight Thursday but being young men who just won a football game they would have been up for awhile so sure 2:00 AM. Friday would have been rest, therapy day...eat well. Saturday Practice, Sunday Practice (remember no limits on time as school is out) Monday practice...Tuesday morning practice at ND.....then fly a 2 1/2 hour in air flight to Miami......meetings, warm weather, nice meal....to sleep by 10:00 or 11:00....team meeting this morning....likely walk through at the Stadium / light practice...more film.....maybe a cruise down South Beach....another good nights rest tonight.....
5 Nights in South Bend......2 Nights at a 5 star hotel in Miami....18-24 years old......no school to worry about...just take care of practice, eat right....rest. If you wait much longer they will be bored.
Either way...the Sugar Bowl did not end "Close to Midnight" It ended before 8:00 PM Eastern.
The flight would have been less than 2 hours in the air....home and in bed by midnight Thursday but being young men who just won a football game they would have been up for awhile so sure 2:00 AM. Friday would have been rest, therapy day...eat well. Saturday Practice, Sunday Practice (remember no limits on time as school is out) Monday practice...Tuesday morning practice at ND.....then fly a 2 1/2 hour in air flight to Miami......meetings, warm weather, nice meal....to sleep by 10:00 or 11:00....team meeting this morning....likely walk through at the Stadium / light practice...more film.....maybe a cruise down South Beach....another good nights rest tonight.....
5 Nights in South Bend......2 Nights at a 5 star hotel in Miami....18-24 years old......no school to worry about...just take care of practice, eat right....rest. If you wait much longer they will be bored.
Either way...the Sugar Bowl did not end "Close to Midnight" It ended before 8:00 PM Eastern.
I'm not sure if it's enough gas in the tank, or enough players to fill the injuries that seem to have been happening.
Maybe, just maybe the game is too physical for within the time period to finish the season, and there are those that want to add 4 more teams to the playoffs only to gripe about all the blowouts
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Yeah that didn't age well.
It was the first half for crying out loud and ND ended the half only being down by 7. They weren't gassed. They were mentally lost and confused. Freeman talks all the time about how clarity equals velocity. Once ND got that clarity, ND started playing better and got the win.
This so called 2 day rest advantage didn't work out for for PSU, now did it?
Some here questioned ND's ability to win due to a physically/emotionally draining win over UGA, while PSU had 2 easy wins. While sustaining success is hard. What you did last week doesn't affect what you do the following week. It is staying in a routine and the preparation in the next week that matters.
As I posted earlier how many times have we seen posters complain about ND opponents having a bye week before playing ND and that being a disadvantage? Only to see that ND wins the majority of the time.
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Oh they didn't have it. There's no question about it. That was the worst half they played since the NIU game. Looked slower and less physical than anytime all year.
But the heart and guts and coaching pushed us through.
Yes it worked out for them. The game would have a more definitive win for ND if we were fresh early.
Also enough on the bench to fill the void .......I'm not sure how much more bench is left
I believe the shortish week, given our injury situation did have a bit of an affect last night. To me, it almost looked like they were coming off a bye week and it took them a bit to get into gear in the first half. But, the halftime adjustments were spot on and I don't know what fire Freeman lit under their butts in that locker room and said to them, but they were a completely different team in the second half.
The game would have been a more definitive win for ND if they were fresh early? How do you prove that? Have you not seen ND come out flat after a whole off-season, a bye week, or weeks preparing for the bowl game?
And by that logic, how could ND come out more "fresh" in the 2nd half? They had just played a whole half and were losing the TOP. Oh wait, it's hearts, guts, and coaching. So that would actually support my opinion that it's preparation that matters more than the actual rest.
By the way, you gonna answer any of my questions from this thread? The 5-7 thread? The game ball thread?
With that poster, anything and everything related to whatevever you can think of is spun in Notre Dame's direction.
I think you mean the poster's direction. For whatever reason he always wants to challenge me, but then scatters after I hammer him with evidence and questions.
I destroyed you how many times now. You are a glutton for punishment
Everyone saw it but me? Thats your proof? Pathetic weak argument.
I told everyone here ND would be fine with less rest as long as they stayed in routine and prepared and look what happened. I think my evidence is a little bit stronger than yours buddy. Yeah, you really destroyed me there. 😆
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Oh I don't doubt he's a fan. And I appreciate when he posts updates on recruiting, injuries, etc. He just makes me laugh when he tries to challenge me.
I picked ND to win.
Like I said, I don't think you understand what is being said here
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