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Does This Short Week Hurt the Irish?

OK... aside from the bickering... there is some thoughtful posts here.

I just got finished watching Freemans presser and he was asked about the "short" week and his answer was, pretty much perfect. Its not much different than any other 7 day turn around during the season and its not like PSU was on a bye.

The other noteworthy comment was that we came out of the Georgia game pretty healthy. GOOD NEWS.
PSU got better than a bye. A game where they were running good reps with only a small chance of losing.
 
This is the ULTIMATE TEST of a good team -- having to play TOUGHER COMPETITION EACH WEEK and having to get up for it.

Is ND the kind of playoff team that can SOLDIER ON or, at some point, does it SIMPLY REACH ITS LIMIT?

This is RAW COMPETITION at its best.
It would say that raw comp at its best if the conditions were the same for PSU. They played 2 shit teams and have had 2 easy unemotional games, and they've got 2 extra days rest . ND has been through a gauntlet, and they're playing on less than a weeks rest. And don't underestimate how the tragedy in New Orleans will affect the team either. Being there while terrible things happened, being locked down in hotel rooms, the schedule being turned upside down.....this all takes a physical and mental and emotional toll on the guys. It will take a heroic effort to beat PSU Thursday.

Folks correctly talk about how emotional the UGA game was. I'll add this- the IU game was emotional too. I was there, and I've never seen Notre Stadium like it was that night. It was absolutely electric on and off the field.

It is so incredibly difficult to have big energy and emotionally draining games back to back to back. It tests your limits. And it's absolutely contributed to the injury challenges that we're having. I'm certain that there is a connection. The boys are putting so much incredible effort into each play and each drive. It's amazing.

I'm concerned that this is all taking a major toll on the guys. I'm the biggest homer on the board, and I do think ND pulls it out Thursday. But we badly, badly need rest. I'm disappointed that the NCAA didn't give us Friday's game in the wake of what happened in NOLA last week. How could they not look at PSU having 2 extra days off, and not want to cut into that gap? An extra day would've done wonders (Cross and Love).

Freeman and the staff need to get 60 minutes out the boys Thursday. I think they can do it. But this ND team is being tested in ways that few college teams ever have before.
 
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Normal 7 day schedule, Penn State, I have sneaky suspicion was doing more prep work on Georgia than ND. At this juncture of the season you are not doing much banging. So, my guess is ND will be physically prepared to get the job done in Miami. I live down here and looks like on gameday, we are looking at a high 67 and a low of 54, without a drop of rain in fhe forecast. PERFECT football weather
 
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Do we know which day Notre Dame will travel to Florida? I know this is a playoff and not the typical Bowl Game reward of sunshine and warm weather but if it was up to me I would travel earlier than normal and practice at least once on grass similar to what the stadium has. Perhaps even at St. Thomas Aquinas.....can't hurt recruiting
 
It would say that raw comp at its best if the conditions were the same for PSU. They played 2 shit teams and have had 2 easy unemotional games, and they've got 2 extra days rest . ND has been through a gauntlet, and they're playing on less than a weeks rest. And don't underestimate how the tragedy in New Orleans will affect the team either. Being there while terrible things happened, being locked down in hotel rooms, the schedule being turned upside down.....this all takes a physical and mental and emotional toll on the guys. It will take a heroic effort to beat PSU Thursday.

Folks correctly talk about how emotional the UGA game was. I'll add this- the IU game was emotional too. I was there, and I've never seen Notre Stadium like it was that night. It was absolutely electric on and off the field.

It is so incredibly difficult to have big energy and emotionally draining games back to back to back. It tests your limits. And it's absolutely contributed to the injury challenges that we're having. I'm certain that there is a connection. The boys are putting so much incredible effort into each play and each drive. It's amazing.

I'm concerned that this is all taking a major toll on the guys. I'm the biggest homer on the board, and I do think ND pulls it out Thursday. But we badly, badly need rest. I'm disappointed that the NCAA didn't give us Friday's game in the wake of what happened in NOLA last week. How could they not look at PSU having 2 extra days off, and not want to cut into that gap? An extra day would've done wonders (Cross and Love).

Freeman and the staff need to get 60 minutes out the boys Thursday. I think they can do it. But this ND team is being tested in ways that few college teams ever have before.
Sure.

But, in fact, I was ONLY TALKING ABOUT ND. Texas and PSU both had easier routes to where they are now. As for ND, I NEVER BOUGHT INTO THE IDEA that its seed was favorable.

Again, to me it's SIMPLE. WILL ND HAVE ENOUGH GAS IN THE TANK OR NOT against an excellent PSU team?

This could very well be the toughest stretch of games any ND team has played in HISTORY.

So then, is this some historical run? Or will ND get STOPPED SHORT either this game or the next?

NO WAY TO KNOW.
 
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We play Boise next year. I think they are a good team. PSU is more talented than people think plus their coordinators are good too. We gotta play Boise so not smart to trash them.
 
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It would say that raw comp at its best if the conditions were the same for PSU. They played 2 shit teams and have had 2 easy unemotional games, and they've got 2 extra days rest . ND has been through a gauntlet, and they're playing on less than a weeks rest. And don't underestimate how the tragedy in New Orleans will affect the team either. Being there while terrible things happened, being locked down in hotel rooms, the schedule being turned upside down.....this all takes a physical and mental and emotional toll on the guys. It will take a heroic effort to beat PSU Thursday.

Folks correctly talk about how emotional the UGA game was. I'll add this- the IU game was emotional too. I was there, and I've never seen Notre Stadium like it was that night. It was absolutely electric on and off the field.

It is so incredibly difficult to have big energy and emotionally draining games back to back to back. It tests your limits. And it's absolutely contributed to the injury challenges that we're having. I'm certain that there is a connection. The boys are putting so much incredible effort into each play and each drive. It's amazing.

I'm concerned that this is all taking a major toll on the guys. I'm the biggest homer on the board, and I do think ND pulls it out Thursday. But we badly, badly need rest. I'm disappointed that the NCAA didn't give us Friday's game in the wake of what happened in NOLA last week. How could they not look at PSU having 2 extra days off, and not want to cut into that gap? An extra day would've done wonders (Cross and Love).

Freeman and the staff need to get 60 minutes out the boys Thursday. I think they can do it. But this ND team is being tested in ways that few college teams ever have before.
Never even mentioned that Penn State fought like hell to beat Oregon in the Big 10 title game, played an extra game; meanwhile, Notre Dame took that week off. Rested. This stuff cuts both ways.
 
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Never even mentioned that Penn State fought like hell to beat Oregon in the Big 10 title game, played an extra game; meanwhile, Notre Dame took that week off. Rested. This stuff cuts both ways.
Penn State played Oregon on Dec 7

Penn State played SMU on Dec 21

2 weeks matters
 
Penn State played Oregon on Dec 7

Penn State played SMU on Dec 21

2 weeks matters
Playing 13 games as opposed to 12.... playing Oregon on December 7 for the Big 10 title, matters as well. At least mention it in fairness. Playing conference title games... and getting beat... matters.
 
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Playing 13 games as opposed to 12.... playing Oregon on December 7 for the Big 10 title, matters as well. At least mention it in fairness. Playing conference title games... and getting beat... matters.
No doubt. You're right, it's a fair take.

I'm just concerned those 3 days in NOLA took a ton out of us. ND is gonna be absolutely tested physically and mentally and emotionally on Thursday.
 
No doubt. You're right, it's a fair take.

I'm just concerned those 3 days in NOLA took a ton out of us. ND is gonna be absolutely tested physically and mentally and emotionally on Thursday.
It is the travel that worries me more than the total days.
 
Never even mentioned that Penn State fought like hell to beat Oregon in the Big 10 title game, played an extra game; meanwhile, Notre Dame took that week off. Rested. This stuff cuts both ways.
No, it doesn’t, it’s not even close.

The sugar bowl game didn’t end until close to midnight

Then you have to dive deeper and consider that Notre Dame had to travel from NOLA back to South Bend after the sugar bowl, and then they have to travel down to Miami for Thursday’s game.

The loss of a day is very impactful

An additional day also allows for recovery from injuries and general fatigue
 
No, it doesn’t, it’s not even close.

The sugar bowl game didn’t end until close to midnight

Then you have to dive deeper and consider that Notre Dame had to travel from NOLA back to South Bend after the sugar bowl, and then they have to travel down to Miami for Thursday’s game.

The loss of a day is very impactful

An additional day also allows for recovery from injuries and general fatigue
Midnight in London England? The game started at 4:00 PM Eastern....3:00 PM New Orleans....game was done 8 PM and I am sure the team was home in South Bend by Midnight..,,which is earlier than most of their road games this year. The team assuming still in SB has slept 5 nights in their own beds....(or wherever they have put them up) and the travel is all within time zone / 1 hour max as well as flights all less than 3 hours.
 
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Midnight in London England? The game started at 4:00 PM Eastern....3:00 PM New Orleans....game was done 8 PM and I am sure the team was home in South Bend by Midnight..,,which is earlier than most of their road games this year. The team assuming still in SB has slept 5 nights in their own beds....(or wherever they have put them up) and the travel is all within time zone / 1 hour max as well as flights all less than 3 hours.
What time do you think they arrived back at South Bend …… midnight or later
What time do you think they got to bed that night? 2:00am or later ?

They arrived in Miami today, so how much work do you think they got in today

They have tomorrow and then the game is the next day

That’s not a lot of time to prepare to play against one of the best teams in the country

So the answer to the question is that the short week hurts them?
 
I know I did not play a football game but I did go on a bender to Cabo and travelled almost 12 hours home due to delays on the 4th and hit bed at 3:00 AM. I was a little tired on the 5th but felt great on the 6th despite the two hour time difference...work, hit the gym........I am over 50...they will be fine.

The flight would have been less than 2 hours in the air....home and in bed by midnight Thursday but being young men who just won a football game they would have been up for awhile so sure 2:00 AM. Friday would have been rest, therapy day...eat well. Saturday Practice, Sunday Practice (remember no limits on time as school is out) Monday practice...Tuesday morning practice at ND.....then fly a 2 1/2 hour in air flight to Miami......meetings, warm weather, nice meal....to sleep by 10:00 or 11:00....team meeting this morning....likely walk through at the Stadium / light practice...more film.....maybe a cruise down South Beach....another good nights rest tonight.....

5 Nights in South Bend......2 Nights at a 5 star hotel in Miami....18-24 years old......no school to worry about...just take care of practice, eat right....rest. If you wait much longer they will be bored.

Either way...the Sugar Bowl did not end "Close to Midnight" It ended before 8:00 PM Eastern.
 
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