It’s never talked about in the NFL playoffs, where it happens often, because the people at that level don’t use it as an excuse.
And IMO doesnt mean a thing in these CFB Playoffs..
Zero
Does This Short Week Hurt the Irish?
- Thread starter deadirishpoet
- Start date
And IMO doesnt mean a thing in these CFB Playoffs..
Zero
LOL come on you are going to use Boise and AZ state as proof....dumb
I said it was an advantage for ND. I dint care about other teams. We need the rest. We are a beat up team
LOL, come on you are going to ignore what happened to Oregon and Georgia as proof? Dumb
And I noticed you ignored what I posted about Freeman's comments. Once again, it's the preparation that gives you the advantage.
Just like seeding, if you worry about not having as much rest as the other team. You got bigger problems.
We would all prefer you to make even semi intelligent rational posts also but that ain't happening either...
Isn't the timing the same as the regular season? As if they played on a Saturday, then played a week later again on Saturday?
Ohio state was favored. Meant nothing. They are more talented
Nd Georgia was the only toss up game and we won
What coach is going to complain about their circumstances? What did you expect him to say? He's not BK. He's not going to put excuses out in the universe and he shouldn't. I wouldn't either.
I'm not worried about it. But to say an extra day of rest wouldn't be beneficial to a beat up team is just wrong
All my posts are intelligent you’re just too stupid to understand them
Anyone who says that an extra day isn’t beneficial is a total moron.… oh wait, that would be you !
Well by that logic, ND is more talented and are favored. So the rest means nothing.
13 point win is not a toss up.
Lots of coaches complain about their circumstances. Freeman doesn't and that's one of the things I appreciate about him.
You have a tendency to worry about the things you can't control. Just like you said ND got screwed getting the 7th seed. When you're a competitor, you don't worry about the circumstances. Anytime, anywhere. That's what Freeman has done with this team.
Georgia was a 1.5 point spreads and game was the only toss up of the week. ND is a 2 point favorite and in another tossup game.
I like that Freeman doesn't complain about anything. But if he had his choice he would have wanted an extra day or two of rest as well.
Anytime anywhere absolutely. If they changed the game to us playing the Chiefs he and ai would say the same thing. But we all know the Chiefs would be a tougher game than Penn State, right? He would still say anywhere anytime . Doesn't mean it would be his preference
13 point win is not a tossup. I was just applying your logic, not mine. I don't give a crap about the spread. They don't decide games. Another example of worrying about circumstances you can't control.
So are you saying you can speak for Freeman's prefences?
Tossup before the game smart guy. And yes it was a tossup game. 1.5 point spread. So is PSU. You are using hindsight
Yes. Are you saying you would turn down an extra day or 2 of rest for Love,Cross, KVA, Spindler and Schrauth ? Let's see how honest you are here
If you had the option, you could have 6 days between games or 8. Are you going to try to say that you or MF would say nah I'd rather my guys not have the extra couple days to try and get to 100 percent
Any sane person could obviously see that. It's as obvious as can be
OK... aside from the bickering... there is some thoughtful posts here.
I just got finished watching Freemans presser and he was asked about the "short" week and his answer was, pretty much perfect. Its not much different than any other 7 day turn around during the season and its not like PSU was on a bye.
The other noteworthy comment was that we came out of the Georgia game pretty healthy. GOOD NEWS.
I just got finished watching Freemans presser and he was asked about the "short" week and his answer was, pretty much perfect. Its not much different than any other 7 day turn around during the season and its not like PSU was on a bye.
The other noteworthy comment was that we came out of the Georgia game pretty healthy. GOOD NEWS.
Once again, spread means nothing to me and has nothing to do w/ this conversation. Meaningless points there.
And how in the world is a 13 point win a toss up? No one is saying ND got lucky here. They won in a convincing fashion. That ain't no tossup man. Yeah, I am using hindsight. Kinda have to, since the game happened in the past. So what?
I noticed you ignored my question about you speaking for Freeman's preferences. Be honest here. LOL.
Once again, I don't give a crap about how many days rest I get. I don't worry about things I can't control such as rest or seeding. I actually think 7 days to prepare could be advantageous here, as it keeps them in their regular routine. I'll use evidence to support my point once again. Freeman said before the playoffs started he talked to Holtz about how to prepare and Holtz told Freeman you must keep the players in a routine. Also, back when I was coaching JUCO ball we had two back to back seasons where we had to play 10 straight weeks of games before the playoffs and everyone else on our schedule had a bye week at some point. And we played in a very competitive conference. Reflecting on that, the coaching staff and I actually felt like the 10 straight weeks toughened our guys up and we had successful years back to back. And yeah we were banged up at times, but our guys sucked it up and played through it.
If you have a legit injury such as an ankle sprain, which usually takes 4-6 weeks to heal from an extra day or two ain't gonna help ya. An extra day or two just allows some bumps/bruises to reduce in swelling, which is another reason why I think rest advantage is overblown.
Back to the point of the thread, the question is whether or not it's advantageous to have an extra day of rest. Once again, there is too much evidence to say that rest gives you wins. It's the preparation that matters and I have now referenced Freeman, Holtz, and my own coaching experience in supporting my opinion.
Last edited:
Look at what Freeman just said an hour ago:
Change in schedule
01/04/2025 10:32:35 AMToday is game week Monday. Have done this schedule for 10 out of 12 games. Don’t have those extra days. Now have to utilize the time they have to expedite the preparation. What you miss from those extra couple of days – physically they’re healthy, but mentally have to utilize every hour of the day to capitalize on the prep. For them, it’s routine. Have seven days between games.
And this is what I said in my previous post:
Once again, I don't give a crap about how many days rest I get. I don't worry about things I can't control such as rest or seeding. I actually think 7 days to prepare could be advantageous here, as it keeps them in their regular routine.
Last edited:
What did you expect him to say? We have no chance we lost a day compared to our opponents. We're not going to show up because we already lost
🤣🤣
Do you think it is beneficial to have Love and Cross more healthy or less healthy? Don't even answer lol. I know you'll try to wiggle out of it
So Freeman is lying? Give me proof that he's being dishonest.
And I really want to know... how is a 13 point win a toss up?
You can speak for Freeman's prefences?
I think you're the one avoiding questions here.
I think it's beneficial to have Love and Cross healthy, yes. Was that a serious question?
And Freeman just said "... physically they’re healthy, but mentally have to utilize every hour of the day to capitalize on the prep."
Once again, preparation is paramount. They can rest after they win the championship.
Toss up before the game. How many times do we have to go over that. The outcome is hindsight. It was a pick em game going into it
Yes you admit you want Cross and Love as healthy as possible for the game. That means more days rest. Case closed. Thank you. Good talk. We finally got to the bottom of it
I was never talking about before the game, so why bring that up? I never said anything about this being a Pico em game. So you acknowledge that ND winning was not a tossup?
The question was never about Cross and Love being healthy, smart guy. And Freeman just said they're healthy, so what does that have to do with this conversation?
The question was whether or not a shorter week hurts ND. I gave so much evidence disputing that point and where is your evidence?
Also, You can speak for Freeman's prefences?
"Case closed. Thank you and good talk" Is this you running away? Pathetic.
Last edited:
I was.
He said the team is "healthy". He didn't speak on either guys individually. Love came out of the last game, put a brace on and didn't return. Yeah he's 100% ready to go no issues at all 🤣🤣🤣
That wasn't the question. At least not mine.
Not running away. You answered my question and made my point. Having Love and Cross healthier would be beneficial to the team. That's the point. You answered the question at hand. So it's case closed. You admitted it would be better for ND of Love and Cross were healthy so the extra day would be helpful. Thank you.
You said it would be better if Cross and Love were healthy.
So extra days mean they would be healthier
Again, thank you
I know it's a crazy concept. Having your best players being healthy is an advantage for your team rather than playing with them less healthy in a Playoff game. Crazy crazy concept
So you have changed the discussion from does having shorter time rest hurt ND to having Cross and Love being healthy is better for the team? What a joke. You're changing the discussion to win the argument.
Yeah. Shorter time would mean a less healthy Love and Cross.
That's the whole argument I made from the beginning.
Whats so hard to understand
Love and Cross have nothing to do with my point or this thread. Preparation is what matters and gives you the advantage. Thats what I don't understand about what you're saying. You say I'm avoidant of questions when you've avoided mine. I've offered evidence when you've given none. Love and Cross are healthy to begin with, as Freeman stated. It is a moot point. Every team wants their players to be healthy, but that doesn't mean you have an advantage come game time even if you had an extra day or two to rest. You can be completely healthy with 2 weeks to prepare and still be at a huge disadvantage.
Then you misunderstood my point from the beginning. I made it pretty clear I thought. The most important thing is our best players are healthy as possible and the more days they have to rest the healthier they will be.
Yeah they're 100%. That's why Love put on a brace and didn't return to play in the most important game of his life. Now 2 days later he's 100% ready to go and has no issues
Believing a coach is like believing a politician. You can't be that gullible
Again, moot point.
One of the multiple questions I asked... prove to me Freeman is lying. Just like he's lying to about preparation and routine instead of complaining that he doesn't get the same amount of days off as PSU? And tell me are you able to speak for Freeman's prefences?
How many times have people complained on this board that ND regular season opponents have a bye week before playing ND and say it's not fair? Only to see that the majority of the time ND wins. It's talent and preparation being the most important that gives you an advantage. UGA had more time and rest and are more talented than ND, but still lost. That's why one extra day doesn't mean anything to me. You prepare, suit up, and kick ass. It's clear to me you never competed at a high level as a player or coach. You don't have the exposure myself and others on this board have. I just offered more evidence.
Oh but me saying I want a healthy Cross and Love means you win the argument. OK.
They lost a day due having to play the following day, but injust read Freeman on this and he thinks it benefits the team, but you have to admit waiting the extra time, playing til late afternoon the catching a late flight will you with a hangover effect the following day
Georgia is not more talented than Notre Dame, especially on offense.
