Does the NCAA

[savvyandsassier]

Eventually, there's going to be a Court ruling that the players are employees of the schools, and will have to start receiving a salary benefits, etc.

Yeah, is that typically how employees officially get hired, by court ruling? I don't know that much about 'employee' law, but they're obviously professional athletes just like NFL players. So we could probably just copy that paradigm.

 

[Holycrossover3]

When that opinion is shared by Nick Saban, Lane Kiffin and the bulk of the college football world, it becomes fact.

Saban is upset that the old way of funneling smaller amounts of money to players is no longer sufficient. Now that everyone is in the game, it makes it more difficult to dominate.

Sure it’s chaotic, but at the same point the transfer portal helps alleviate the talent discrepancy amongst top programs.

I’m almost surprised there’s such anger on the board regarding the portal as ND has been a team that’s benefited from it over the past couple years.

 

[topdecktiger]

Yeah, is that typically how employees officially get hired, by court ruling? I don't know that much about 'employee' law, but they're obviously professional athletes just like NFL players. So we could probably just copy that paradigm.

I'm not sure what you're getting at but Yes eventually in this case some courts gonna rule that their employees and they're gonna have to be treated as such directly by the schools.

 

[topdecktiger]

So when and how is this brought to court?

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So when and how is this brought to court?

I have no idea when. The how is pretty simple. A player brings a suit against the school.

 

[topset81]

No. They're not about to get smacked around by the courts again. I believe there will be an adjustment to the portal as far as the calendar is concerned but transfers are here to stay. The one year sitting out rule was only in place for 5 sports. It was clearly discriminatory.

In 5 years there won't be much of an audience

 

[4-4-3]

I think common sense dictates that there needs to be structure vis a vis regulations which incorporate limits.

Multi-year contracts would appear to be a simple solution

Okay, and how would you see that affecting the PORTAL and NIL?

And I'm asking as I'm trying to figure out JUST WHAT ND WILL AND/OR WON'T DO AND UNDER WHICH CIRCUMSTANCES?

And if a conflict arises on ND's side -- GIVEN ITS SINGULAR APPROACH -- will the rest of CFB bend to ND's will -- as I would expect that in its own interest, ND would be opting for the more STRUCTURED, TRADITIONAL APPROACH -- or will the other powers simply say, WE'RE NOT AS STUDENT-ATHLETE CONCERNED as you are, and whatever guidlines prevail will reflect that?

In other words, I'm trying to GAME THIS OUT, if not WAR-GAME IT.

Of course, I can't be sure, but this could be THE MOST SERIOUS FORK IN THE ROAD ND has faced to date.

 

[4-4-3]

I'm not sure what you're getting at but Yes eventually in this case some courts gonna rule that their employees and they're gonna have to be treated as such directly by the schools.

This could get COMPLICATED because in the first place, these players are STUDENTS. What if a player gets EXPELLED? How does that bear upon his ALSO being an employee? Would he still have a right as an employee to remain on the team even if he's NO LONGER A STUDENT?

I guess they would have to make EXPULSION legitimate grounds for firing the student-player for CAUSE. Or else he could conceivably seek damages.

I see plenty of potential CONFLICTS OF INTEREST in all of this and plenty of opportunity for LITIGATORS.

I guess the next step would then be for Wall Street to come up with a DERIVATIVES PRODUCT based on how many players change teams, including which teams and conferences benefit or lose because of those changes.

And mabye then a new FANDUEL APP covering the same dynamics for the penny-stock crowd.

 

[Shakin' Down the Thunder]

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I have no idea when. The how is pretty simple. A player brings a suit against the school.

But hasn't that been done multiple times where a player brings a suit against the school/NCAA? Point is, any reason a judge would rule differently now? Im not a judge, but I could see a judge saying, what do you need money from the school for? You have access to NIL now. And even if they did rule in player's favor my guess is NCAA would challenge it and tie it up in courts for years.

 

[Patrish]

Okay, and how would you see that affecting the PORTAL and NIL?

And I'm asking as I'm trying to figure out JUST WHAT ND WILL AND/OR WON'T DO AND UNDER WHICH CIRCUMSTANCES?

And if a conflict arises on ND's side -- GIVEN ITS SINGULAR APPROACH -- will the rest of CFB bend to ND's will -- as I would expect that in its own interest, ND would be opting for the more STRUCTURED, TRADITIONAL APPROACH -- or will the other powers simply say, WE'RE NOT AS STUDENT-ATHLETE CONCERNED as you are, and whatever guidlines prevail will reflect that?

In other words, I'm trying to GAME THIS OUT, if not WAR-GAME IT.

Of course, I can't be sure, but this could be THE MOST SERIOUS FORK IN THE ROAD ND has faced to date.

I think the landscape is changing so rapidly that none of the schools know exactly what their plan is 2, 3 or 4 years from now

Mine is a quest for stability

If a salary cap works for MLB and the NFL it just might work for the NCAA

Limit NIL payments per school

One of the reasons that the NFL is so successful is that it’s structured for parity.
It structured to create a more level playing field for the 32 teams

It’s structured to prevent a team or teams from dominating over time, it’s anti-dynasty