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and if UT loses close in SECCG they may remain ahead of ND.
That would be more likely than the other scenario. But not for certain either.

Texas am could beat them and they won't even be in the sec champ game is also possible
 
Thanks for the response. I was speaking more to the committee’s own logic rather than what you or I think. Georgia’s remaining games are Massachusetts and Georgia Tech who ND beat soundly. So it would be hard to justify the committee then turning around and bumping them ahead of ND according to their own rankings.

Thoughts?
Yep, I'm inclined to agree if you're commenting on the committee's thoughts rather than ours. Always an important distinction!
 
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Yep, I'm inclined to agree if you're commenting on the committee's thoughts rather than ours. Always an important distinction!
And watch for them to potentially bump Georgia or Alabama ahead of ND this week because they know what we discussed.

Alabama beat Mercer so they shouldn’t be ahead of ND. Maybe they can make an argument for Georgia because they beat Tennessee last week.

Do they try to give credit to Bama because they beat Georgia? Well that gives Tennessee another loss which hurts Bama so it should pretty much be a wash.

I hope that makes sense. I don’t trust the committee.
 
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I don't have much trust in the committee either this year. And I'm one of the few who thinks they have generally done a great job over these past 10 years. Too many inconsistencies in their rankings this year, though. I get the sense that different people in the room are using different criteria and each week just depends on who happens to be the loudest voice.
 
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Penn St ranking wont hold. Their best win is Illinois. Just cant see them holding a top 6 spot with that bad of a resume.
 
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6 tomorrow and 5 the week after because the loser of OSU Ind will be below us

Week after Osu Ind

Oregon
OSU (assume they beat Ind)
Tex
Ped state
ND

Final ranking

1. Big
2. SEC
3. Acc
4. B12

5. Loser of big 10 champ
6. Ped state if we don't jump them
7. ND (lowest ranking if we win out)

5 to 7 will be our final ranking very likely
5 or 6 gets us the 2nd round matchup with ACC or B12, correct?
 
I don't have much trust in the committee either this year. And I'm one of the few who thinks they have generally done a great job over these past 10 years. Too many inconsistencies in their rankings this year, though. I get the sense that different people in the room are using different criteria and each week just depends on who happens to be the loudest voice.
A podcaster was saying they should live stream their deliberations. I completely agree. There’s a lot on the line with these rankings and the committee should be an open book.
 
A podcaster was saying they should live stream their deliberations. I completely agree. There’s a lot on the line with these rankings and the committee should be an open book.
The committee doesn’t owe ongoing discussions to anyone, IMO.
 
Penn St ranking wont hold. Their best win is Illinois. Just cant see them holding a top 6 spot with that bad of a resume.
The loss to Northern Illinois will keep Notre Dame behind 9-1, 10-1, or 11-1 Penn State, IMO.
 
Why would they? Why would anyone agree to that? There is no purpose other than to open yourself up to criticism from fan bases. You can explain yourself after the rankings are posted.
That’s the idea. People already criticize them. A 5 minutes interview with the AD who presided over the cheaters at Michigan doesn’t suffice. It would be nice to hear a voters thoughts on why specifically they voted the way they did.

If I was on the committee, I wouldn’t have a problem with it because I’m not trying to cheat anyone...and I would have voluntarily signed up for the position like they did. I don’t like that they get to hide behind “the committee”. At least with the AP poll we can track who they voted for each week.
 
A podcaster was saying they should live stream their deliberations. I completely agree. There’s a lot on the line with these rankings and the committee should be an open book.
I think its a great idea, but then boosters would know who had the most influence in these rankings/deliberations and would know the person to target with bribes lol
 
I think its a great idea, but then boosters would know who had the most influence in these rankings/deliberations and would know the person to target with bribes lol
Good point haha. At least have everyone submit their top 25 prior to deliberations or something.
 
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The loss to Northern Illinois will keep Notre Dame behind 9-1, 10-1, or 11-1 Penn State, IMO.
As a USC fan I get why you hope for the worse for ND but 4 wins against ranked opp vs 1 for PSU. Plus 2 common opp where ND will likely have bigger margin of victory. And finally I still dont know why you are here?
 
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and if UT loses close in SECCG they may remain ahead of ND.
That would be more likely than the other scenario. But not for certain either.

Texas am could beat them and they won't even be in the sec champ game is also possible
But if the Horns lose to A&M, they don't make the SECCG and may not title. Aren't conferences & playoff the bees knees?
 
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That’s awesome that ND is still ahead of Bama and Georgia. There’s even a little buffer with Miami there between Bama and Georgia/Ole Miss.

As it stands now, three SEC teams are coming up north. Would love that.

It’s a shame that espn is parading that phony strength of schedule around. It’s a sham. Hopefully the committee isn’t using that.
 
That’s awesome that ND is still ahead of Bama and Georgia. There’s even a little buffer with Miami there between Bama and Georgia/Ole Miss.

As it stands now, three SEC teams are coming up north. Would love that.

It’s a shame that espn is parading that phony strength of schedule around. It’s a sham. Hopefully the committee isn’t using that.
Not surprised they care using that. It's a joke
 
Well, good to see we moved up and would be hosting a game. But the opponent is not the one we probably would prefer, as Bama's still one of the most talented teams out there. Things will continue to change in the rankings, though.
 
Well, good to see we moved up and would be hosting a game. But the opponent is not the one we probably would prefer, as Bama's still one of the most talented teams out there. Things will continue to change in the rankings, though.
Alabama in South Bend is a winnable game. That said, I agree.
 
Alabama in South Bend is a winnable game. That said, I agree.
It is, but the way they're each playing right now, I think the proposed opponent last week (Tennessee) would be a slightly easier game.
 
It is, but the way they're each playing right now, I think the proposed opponent last week (Tennessee) would be a slightly easier game.
We won't be matched up with Bama anyway when the final ranking comes out
 
It is, but the way they're each playing right now, I think the proposed opponent last week (Tennessee) would be a slightly easier game.
Agree, even though Tennessee beat Alabama.

Jalen Milroe and that WR they have would be a pita to defend.
 
It is, but the way they're each playing right now, I think the proposed opponent last week (Tennessee) would be a slightly easier game.
Truth be told, I would rather not play Georgia, Alabama, Texas, Tennessee, or Mississippi in Round 1.
 
Let's eliminate the automatic bye's....I mean Ohio State possibly a #5 having to play while #12 Boise gets a Bye? Just go with the top 4.....
They need to tweek it so P4 auto bids become 1-8. That way the conf champ gets in & gets to host a playoff game but dont get overly rewarded for winning a bad conf.
 
It’s all focused more around trying to make an insanely fragmented sport happy than it is just flat out ranking the 12 teams that they believe are “best” in order, and that in itself creates its own problems that its people choosing the playoff teams rather than every other sport in existence just having a uniform set of conferences, leagues, or whatever and having clearly defined playoff parameters. There’s no way it will last a long time in its current form.

Georgia #10? Come on.
 
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Well, good to see we moved up and would be hosting a game. But the opponent is not the one we probably would prefer, as Bama's still one of the most talented teams out there. Things will continue to change in the rankings, though.
Bama is #4 in F+ and a tier 1 team and would be an easy favorite vs ND.

These CFP rankings arent giving enough credit to opponent quality and way overvaluing the W-L record.

There's going to be a lot of playoff quality teams (clear top 12 teams in the country) that don't make the playoff or really good tier 1 teams playing other tier 1 teams in the early rounds and knocking each other out, and you're going to get crap teams (by sheer luck) getting a way easier path to later rounds in the playoff than they should.

All of this waters down the product and erodes the confidence/quality/integrity of the playoff.
 
That’s awesome that ND is still ahead of Bama and Georgia. There’s even a little buffer with Miami there between Bama and Georgia/Ole Miss.

As it stands now, three SEC teams are coming up north. Would love that.

It’s a shame that espn is parading that phony strength of schedule around. It’s a sham. Hopefully the committee isn’t using that.
I am really looking forward to SEC playing some games up north. Whole different ball game when they aren't playing in 70 degree weather in December.
 
Let's eliminate the automatic bye's....I mean Ohio State possibly a #5 having to play while #12 Boise gets a Bye? Just go with the top 4.....
The automatic byes really have to go. If you want to have the P4 champ be in playoffs fine but eliminate the automatic bye. Boise St with a bye is a fricking joke. Lets get to 16 teams and eliminate this bye BS
 
College Football needs to move to a relegation format like English Soccer. Then take the top 90 or 120 Div 1 schools and put them in tiers with some moving up and down based on record. Then each can have its own playoffs based on wins and losses not "rankings"
 
Lets hope not. Where we are now is the absolute worst position to be in. Play AL and if we win Oregon.
Oregon could lose the Big 10 title game and that would solve your dilemma.

Oregon would then be the 5.
 
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Let's eliminate the automatic bye's....I mean Ohio State possibly a #5 having to play while #12 Boise gets a Bye? Just go with the top 4.....
I don't have a problem with it. It's a reward for playing and winning a 13th game, which at-large teams won't have done. So every team will have to win a total of 4 postseason games to win the championship.
 
I don't have a problem with it. It's a reward for playing and winning a 13th game, which at-large teams won't have done. So every team will have to win a total of 4 postseason games to win the championship.
It’s also why I like the deal that Jack Swarbick negotiated for Notre Dame. So the flip side is, the SEC champion deserves the bye having to play game 13.

It’s a sound format.
 
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