When lou holtz had 6 win season...he had support...because the team was on the cusp of really good. They played hard etc...Bodi-
I don't think they're happy. I think they are resigned to the fate that he IS coming back, and as fans, we should support him. If it were my call, I would've made a change. BK coming back means he has my support. I'm not optimistic that we'll win 10 games next year, but I'm hoping for the best. I'll be more optimistic as we get closer to Aug/September.
I don't want to speak for those guys, but I think they would both agree with me.
Where do you stand? Can ND win 9 or 10 or 11 games next year?
Love how you sunshine boys refer to the realists as trolls. Count me in on 4-8.The two resident trolls Pennick44 and IrishJohn68 are both happy with Kelly and his 4 and 8 season.
I'll support the players, but I will not support Kelly. He's a classless jerk.Bodi-
I don't think they're happy. I think they are resigned to the fate that he IS coming back, and as fans, we should support him. If it were my call, I would've made a change. BK coming back means he has my support. I'm not optimistic that we'll win 10 games next year, but I'm hoping for the best. I'll be more optimistic as we get closer to Aug/September.
I don't want to speak for those guys, but I think they would both agree with me.
Where do you stand? Can ND win 9 or 10 or 11 games next year?
So, what's the point of this topic? Continue this childish war of words? To shut down any reasonable differing opinion? Chest pounding? Continue the creative ways of insulting fellow Irish fans anonymously? Perhaps even find an excuse to post insulting cartoons and videos, only they aren't even the creation of the poster but rather "borrowed" from the talent of someone else. I don't know how many different ways it has been spelled out that there are probably not many, if any, BK supporters left, only those who support the players. It doesn't matter though, because this insult fest is just too much fun. Some here will not be happy until every last poster with intelligent ideas have been driven away. I am 100% certain that some here are losing sleep over the retaining of BK and Jack and have spent countless hours doing research on how BK and Jack has spoiled their plans of bragging rights and living through 19 year old student-athletes.
People on handouts and free welfare never want any change to mindless dependency.Yes, Toby. Because expecting the Notre Dame administration and the Athletic Director to do their jobs is the same exact thing as living through 19 year old student athletes.
Have you ever had to compete hard for anything in your life and demand the pursuit of perfection? Or is simply trying and having fun your standard of excellence?
So, what's the point of this topic? Continue this childish war of words? To shut down any reasonable differing opinion? Chest pounding? Continue the creative ways of insulting fellow Irish fans anonymously? Perhaps even find an excuse to post insulting cartoons and videos, only they aren't even the creation of the poster but rather "borrowed" from the talent of someone else. I don't know how many different ways it has been spelled out that there are probably not many, if any, BK supporters left, only those who support the players. It doesn't matter though, because this insult fest is just too much fun. Some here will not be happy until every last poster with intelligent ideas have been driven away. I am 100% certain that some here are losing sleep over the retaining of BK and Jack and have spent countless hours doing research on how BK and Jack has spoiled their plans of bragging rights and living through 19 year old student-athletes.
People on handouts and free welfare never want any change to mindless dependency.
is a smart move. I just want to be able to pull this up next season when the team is 6-6...atleast I hope we get 6 wins.
I like the classic, if you rob Peter to pay Paul, you can always count on the support of Paul.A profoundly ignorant comment.
You can always identify the "Paul's" like that knobby!I like the classic, if you rob Peter to pay Paul, you can always count on the support of Paul.
You can always identify the "Paul's" like that knobby!
I like the classic, if you rob Peter to pay Paul, you can always count on the support of Paul.
ND owes BK too much money. Period . That extension is the sole reason he is still here. This team is not on the rise and the program is a mess.I have not been critical of BK or JS. Having said that. no coach in his 7th season who goes 4-8 should be retained. I have never been more pessimistic about ND'S FB future. The problem is if BK gets fired I have no faith in the administration's dedication to the fb program or it's ability to hire a new coach.
Sorry, never heard that one. You want to get into charitable giving statistics, especially among Catholics? I don't think you do.I like the classic "it's my money and to hell with everyone else " yet go to Mass every Sunday crowd.
I am in this boat. I am not happy..... but I am a little hesitant to put my faith in any of the candidates out there.Bodi-
I don't think they're happy. I think they are resigned to the fate that he IS coming back, and as fans, we should support him. If it were my call, I would've made a change. BK coming back means he has my support. I'm not optimistic that we'll win 10 games next year, but I'm hoping for the best. I'll be more optimistic as we get closer to Aug/September.
I don't want to speak for those guys, but I think they would both agree with me.
Where do you stand? Can ND win 9 or 10 or 11 games next year?
Sorry, never heard that one. You want to get into charitable giving statistics, especially among Catholics? I don't think you do.
I am on record as likely not watching much ND in 2017 and in favor of tying up Kelly and Swarbrick for public floggingis a smart move. I just want to be able to pull this up next season when the team is 6-6...atleast I hope we get 6 wins.
Actually that's not at all what that statement means. It's about the government robbing the haves to give to the have nots in an overt attempt to curry favor with the have nots.You were the one who referenced the "have-nots" as "robbing" the "haves." Nice deflection though.
Actually that's not at all what that statement means. It's about the government robbing the haves to give to the have nots in an overt attempt to curry favor with the have nots.
There are more welfare people .. disability people... that have absolutely zero intention to ever get off.A profoundly ignorant comment.
Now this is the second thing I have said that you have totally twisted around and changed the meaning to fit your perception. If I didn't know better I might think you have an agenda in play here. Let me put it as simply as I can, the comment "if you rob Peter to pay Paul you can always count on the support of Paul" is not a criticism of poor people, it is a criticism of hypocritical liberals in the government. Now, let's see how you can twist that around to make me out as the grim reaper, pillager of the poor and helpless.Right, the have nots are just parasites and leeches. They should just be kicked to the curb. Got it. We obviously encountered two very different approaches to social justice at ND.
Now this is the second thing I have said that you have totally twisted around and changed the meaning to fit your perception. If I didn't know better I might think you have an agenda in play here. Let me put it as simply as I can, the comment "if you rob Peter to pay Paul you can always count on the support of Paul" is not a criticism of poor people, it is a criticism of hypocritical liberals in the government. Now, let's see how you can twist that around to make me out as the grim reaper, pillager of the poor and helpless.
I'm not exactly sure what it is we are disagreeing on, but cool, let's call it a day.Sorry if I struck a nerve. "Hypocritical liberals"?? And you accuse me of having an agenda?
I've worked with an underserved, socioeconomically disenfranchised community. Have you?
Look, I don't care to continue going back and forth on this issue since we obviously see things very differently. We're not going to accomplish anything debating this on this board, so let's agree to disagree and move on. Enjoy the rest of your day.
Oh GOOOOD! I'm a troll. Tell us how Kelly is going to go 12-0 next season like you have predicted in another thread you started.The two resident trolls Pennick44 and IrishJohn68 are both happy with Kelly and his 4 and 8 season.
Are you the so called poster with "intelligent ideas" ? I sure as hell hope not.
You're literally scolding people for doing the exact same thing you are doing. Nobody says you can't have a different opinion, but that doesn't mean we can't have a different opinion and voice that penetration opinion. I'll start 50 more damn threads about this shit show under Kelly and Jack if I feel like it. Now stop being such a puss and just ignore posters or move on, cause this isn't going to stop until ole purple face is gone.
Why? To call people out a year from now? Got nothing else going on in your life?is a smart move. I just want to be able to pull this up next season when the team is 6-6...atleast I hope we get 6 wins.
You're original post basically says you're marking down anyone with a differing opinion and will be called out if the team has a losing record next year. You're the one drawing the line in the sand.Are you the so called poster with "intelligent ideas" ? I sure as hell hope not.
You're literally scolding people for doing the exact same thing you are doing. Nobody says you can't have a different opinion, but that doesn't mean we can't have a different opinion and voice that penetration opinion. I'll start 50 more damn threads about this shit show under Kelly and Jack if I feel like it. Now stop being such a puss and just ignore posters or move on, cause this isn't going to stop until ole purple face is gone.