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BK > Freeman As Recruiter

You have 1 season of evidence with no qb. Stop acting like you know what is going to happen

Recruiting has improved

His MO was he was a great defensive coach and recruiter
We have one commit in the top what 150 or 200 in the country on D in Johnson and he hasn’t even played D as much as he has offense. ( I do like him though).

I don’t know what is going to happen I’ll stating what has happened to this point.

I expect a great year, anything less than 10-2 is flat out unacceptable. For me it’s at 11-1
 
From the LSU board some time ago:

Saban told a close friend "Brian Kelly is one of the last great tacticians in the game,”​

Posted on 11/6/22 at 12:13 pm
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Sports Illustrated - One man who isn’t surprised that Kelly could draw up such a play is Saban himself. One of Saban’s dearest friends, Lenny Lemoine, a Baton Rouge businessman and LSU booster, spent last weekend with the coach to celebrate his birthday. The two talked about the Tigers’ new football coach.

“He told me that he thinks Brian is one of the last great tacticians in the game,” Lemoine said.
Should talk to the guy from Tulsa.
 
We have one commit in the top what 150 or 200 in the country on D in Johnson and he hasn’t even played D as much as he has offense. ( I do like him though).

I don’t know what is going to happen I’ll stating what has happened to this point.

I expect a great year, anything less than 10-2 is flat out unacceptable. For me it’s at 11-1
So what has happened is improved recruiting. And a 9 and 4 season. We will see what this season brings
 
Ok I get it you've actually never experienced real legendary ND football and only know BK thus you think what he did was of legend. Do you need a trophy for participation? GTFO you BK POS!
NO, YOU DON’T GET IT !

IF, and it’s a big IF, IF you had a brain, which you clearly don’t, you’d know that I’ve be critical of Kelly dating back to 2012.

I’ve been a huge fan of Notre Dame from before you were born.

Having attended and graduated from Notre Dame, in addition to continually supporting Notre Dame, I’m fairly confident that my “experience” with Notre Dame and Notre Dame football exceeds yours by a huge margin …… exponentially.

Despite my criticism of Kelly, which you seem uninformed and oblivious of, you have to give the devil his due. He resurrected Notre Dame football, and that’s a fact that even a moron like you has to acknowledge !
 
Did he do it at ND????????????????????? The mother****er didn't want to come back out from halftime in 2012! POS, negotiating with the Eagles instead of preparing his team! POS!! It's also why Lou Holtz can't stand him!!!
That wasn’t the question you twit.

He beat a top 10 team when he was a 9 point underdog AT Oklahoma which disproved your claim.
 
Should talk to the guy from Tulsa.
No one's perfect.

I mean, he didn't go 63-0 his last 5 years at ND. He went ONLY 54-9.

But I imagine there were some pretty good calls during that run which, of course, now becomes Freeman's BAR. Let's see how he handles it.

I hear THE SKY'S THE LIMIT.
 
NO, YOU DON’T GET IT !

IF, and it’s a big IF, IF you had a brain, which you clearly don’t, you’d know that I’ve be critical of Kelly dating back to 2012.

I’ve been a huge fan of Notre Dame from before you were born.

Having attended and graduated from Notre Dame, in addition to continually supporting Notre Dame, I’m fairly confident that my “experience” with Notre Dame and Notre Dame football exceeds yours by a huge margin …… exponentially.

Despite my criticism of Kelly, which you seem uninformed and oblivious of, you have to give the devil his due. He resurrected Notre Dame football, and that’s a fact that even a moron like you has to acknowledge !
You have ZERO KNOWLEDGE of my associations or my family's association with the university! I'm done responding to you as per usual you are just another idiot that thinks because you graduated from ND that makes you an expert on all things ND.
 
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NO, YOU DON’T GET IT !

IF, and it’s a big IF, IF you had a brain, which you clearly don’t, you’d know that I’ve be critical of Kelly dating back to 2012.

I’ve been a huge fan of Notre Dame from before you were born.

Having attended and graduated from Notre Dame, in addition to continually supporting Notre Dame, I’m fairly confident that my “experience” with Notre Dame and Notre Dame football exceeds yours by a huge margin …… exponentially.

Despite my criticism of Kelly, which you seem uninformed and oblivious of, you have to give the devil his due. He resurrected Notre Dame football, and that’s a fact that even a moron like you has to acknowledge !
You sound deranged
 
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You have ZERO KNOWLEDGE of my associations or my family's association with the university! I'm done responding to you as per usual you are just another idiot that thinks because you graduated from ND that makes you an expert on all things ND.
And you know ZERO about my decades long involvement with Notre Dame.

Your family’s association with ND is irrelevant since you framed this discussion in the sole context that “YOU have forgotten more about ND and CFB than you will ever ****ing know”

The fact that you now want to bring your family in to help you shows that you have no confidence in your reckless boast.

As to the width, breadth and depth of my knowledge of ND, CFB and the NFL It far exceeds yours.

You’ve also proven how stupid you are by falsely contending that my graduation from ND is the sole basis for my data base and knowledge on and of all things ND.

So go lick your wounds, quit and take your football and go home like you said you would !
 
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Why you shouting all the time, no wonder you love Kelly.
I’m not shouting, I’m just making myself clear.

If you knew how to read you’d know that I’ve been critical of Kelly since 2012, and maybe earlier.

Kelly and Kelly alone resurrected ND’s football program.

Kelly’s record speaks for itself.

At one point, you have to give the devil his due.
 
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I’m not shouting, I’m just making myself clear.

If you knew how to read you’d know that I’ve been critical of Kelly since 2012, and maybe earlier.

Kelly and Kelly alone resurrected ND’s football program.

Kelly’s record speaks for itself.

At one point, you have to give the devil his due.
Kelly suited up?
 
I’m not shouting, I’m just making myself clear.

If you knew how to read you’d know that I’ve been critical of Kelly since 2012, and maybe earlier.

Kelly and Kelly alone resurrected ND’s football program.

Kelly’s record speaks for itself.

At one point, you have to give the devil his due.
We agree here.
 
We agree here.
In fact I was one of the first to be critical of Kelly, for being stubborn, for starting what I thought was the wrong personnel, for negotiating with the Eagles when preparing for Alabama should have been his sole focus, for making bad decisions (Northwestern), for not preparing adequately for inferior teams, for abandoning Manti and for leaving ND the way he did.

However, I have to give the devil his due, he is responsible for resurrecting the ND football program and he did beat Alabama

But, he’s no longer at ND.

It’s time to put him in the rear view window.

it’s time to move on.
 
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I’m not shouting, I’m just making myself clear.

If you knew how to read you’d know that I’ve been critical of Kelly since 2012, and maybe earlier.

Kelly and Kelly alone resurrected ND’s football program.

Kelly’s record speaks for itself.

At one point, you have to give the devil his due.
Jack had a lot to do with it as well.

That's BS
 
In fact I was one of the first to be critical of Kelly, for being stubborn, for starting what I thought was the wrong personnel, for negotiating with the Eagles when preparing for Alabama should have been his sole focus, for making bad decisions (Northwestern), for not preparing adequately for inferior teams, for abandoning Manti and for leaving ND the way he did.

However, I have to give the devil his due, he is responsible for resurrecting the ND football program and he did beat Alabama

But, he’s no longer at ND.

It’s time to put him in the rear view window.

it’s time to move on.
I thought the coaches didn't start the wrong personnel?
 
I thought the coaches didn't start the wrong personnel?
For his style of offense Kelly didn’t think he did.
My issue was with Kelly’s style of offense.

I favored the Pro style not the RPO.
Ergo I thought that the style should be changed and with it the QB
 
For his style of offense Kelly didn’t think he did.
My issue was with Kelly’s style of offense.

I favored the Pro style not the RPO.
Ergo I thought that the style should be changed and with it the QB
Ooh....so coaches do make mistakes

They aren't perfect and can make wrong decisions.

And you knew more than Kelly

Thank you for finally admitting it
 
BK's 1st year at LSU was the same old BK
Game 1 Criminal special teams cost LSU a game FSU tried to gifted.
BK gets on a roll
Then LSU faces its biggest game & test of the season vs undefeated Tenn in Death Valley. What does the BK LSU team do? Pulls a complete no show & the game was over in the 1st half.
Lsu goes on its 2nd roll & wins the biggest game of the season & BK's career vs Bama.
With LSU back in the playoff hunt & all the momentum in the world what does the BK led Bayou Tigers do sh!ts the bed vs a sub .500 A&M team that struggled to score all year. Lsu then follows that up with a blowout loss in the SEC champ vs Georgia.
Now if history is any guide QB's under BK peak in their 1st year & regress in their 2nd & 3rd years. We shall see...but nothing about BK's 1st year at LSU didnt tell us anything we didnt already know about him as a coach.
 
BK's 1st year at LSU was the same old BK
Game 1 Criminal special teams cost LSU a game FSU tried to gifted.
BK gets on a roll
Then LSU faces its biggest game & test of the season vs undefeated Tenn in Death Valley. What does the BK LSU team do? Pulls a complete no show & the game was over in the 1st half.
Lsu goes on its 2nd roll & wins the biggest game of the season & BK's career vs Bama.
With LSU back in the playoff hunt & all the momentum in the world what does the BK led Bayou Tigers do sh!ts the bed vs a sub .500 A&M team that struggled to score all year. Lsu then follows that up with a blowout loss in the SEC champ vs Georgia.
Now if history is any guide QB's under BK peak in their 1st year & regress in their 2nd & 3rd years. We shall see...but nothing about BK's 1st year at LSU didnt tell us anything we didnt already know about him as a coach.
None of that isn’t true, but then it’s ALSO a cherry-picked, one-sided perspective. The whole story looks different and, BY FAR, nets out in Kelly’s favor.

At ND:
  • 7 double-digit win seasons
  • 2 undefeated regular seasons
  • 1 BCS appearance
  • 2 CFB Playoff appearances
  • All-time winningest coach by total
  • 7-3 record against major rival, USC
  • 9 various coach of the year awards
  • 9 consensus All-Americans
  • 73.9% winning percentage
  • 8 top 20 finishes
  • 4 top 10 finishes
  • 3 top 5 finishes
And if you add the 118 games he won at GVSU to the 176 he’s won in Division I, he’s easily on track to surpass Bear Bryant’s’ and perhaps Bobby Bowden’s totals, leaving only Joe Paterno and Eddie Robinson ahead of him.

Yes, Kelly went 4-11 against ranked teams at ND, and that isn’t good, but in only 3 of those games was ND the higher-ranked team, with two of the losses coming at the hands of superb Bama and Clemson teams in the playoffs. The one real embarrassment was the skunking by Miami in 2017 when ND was ranked 3 and Miami 7.

While Kelly lost to two more top-ten teams at LSU last year, he finished his first year there – with a team in rebuilding mode – 10-4. Freeman in comparison has gone 9-5 so far with largely the 11-1 team Kelly left him at the end of 2021, including 1-3 against top ten teams.

If some are unhappy with what Kelly accomplished, Freeman, so far, isn’t doing much differently. While it’s certainly too early to tell, why then is Freeman viewed as such a GOOD GUY and Kelly, a VILLAIN? Production-wise, there’s too little distinction between them to warrant so vehemently expressed a comparison.

What I see is an ND program that continues to struggle against top ten teams. And I don’t see that as either a Kelly OR a Freeman thing, but rather an ND THING.

Kelly is a PROVEN QUANTITY and an HOF first-rounder. Freeman is an UNPROVEN QUANTITY.

WE’LL SEE WHAT WE SEE, going forward. But make no mistake. Freeman’s at the foot of a VERY STEEP CLIMB.
 
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From the LSU board some time ago:

Saban told a close friend "Brian Kelly is one of the last great tacticians in the game,”​

Posted on 11/6/22 at 12:13 pm
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Sports Illustrated - One man who isn’t surprised that Kelly could draw up such a play is Saban himself. One of Saban’s dearest friends, Lenny Lemoine, a Baton Rouge businessman and LSU booster, spent last weekend with the coach to celebrate his birthday. The two talked about the Tigers’ new football coach.

“He told me that he thinks Brian is one of the last great tacticians in the game,” Lemoine said.
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