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BK > Freeman As Recruiter

Kind of off topic but why does the ND community felate/defend whoever the current head coach is to the very bitter end but then once that coach leaves it's like open season to bash the living F out of him?

I was posting for years about BKs lack of big wins, lack of big recruits, lack of dynamic roster, lack of success relative to the other elite programs in the country, etc. and all i got was vitriol and utter hate from the ND community for it.

Now everybody seems to be on the bash BK bandwagon stomping on his memory at ND.
Because you're a tool and only post negative things. Nothing positive. You act like BK sucked and couldn't coach or recruit. You do the same thing now with MF

If we arent on Bama or Gas level you act like that means we are a trash program
 
Last time Kelly played Clemson here we got taken to the woodshed. He only beat them once with their backup QB

Freeman destroyed Clemson

Kelly feasted on poor HCs at SC. Now they got Riley and Williams. New ballgame
Beats losing to Stanford and Marshall at home.
 
Kind of off topic but why does the ND community felate/defend whoever the current head coach is to the very bitter end but then once that coach leaves it's like open season to bash the living F out of him?

I was posting for years about BKs lack of big wins, lack of big recruits, lack of dynamic roster, lack of success relative to the other elite programs in the country, etc. and all i got was vitriol and utter hate from the ND community for it.

Now everybody seems to be on the bash BK bandwagon stomping on his memory at ND.
Would you like a medal? Anyone w/ half a sports brain was posting about BK's lack of signature wins and the fact that 99% of the time the game was over before it started in most cases. I don't need a medal but, I was posting it religiously!
 
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How about losing to tulsa, northwetern and navy? How about to usf?

How about going 4 and 8 instead of 8 and 4?

Does it beat that as well?
Get ready for the 44-6 response of which, I could've been the coach and won 40 of those games. Congrats BK you won 4 more games than I would've🤔 Bottom line a place like LSU where cheating is absolutely ignored is about the only kind of place BK will ever have a CHANCE to win a NC. He's simply to average at so many things to be a great coach and win one at a place like ND! In fact I hope he is never allowed back on ND grounds EVER AGAIN! I HATED HIM THE MOMENT HIS TEAM WASN'T PREPARED FOR A FAKE FG AGAINST MSU!!!



Fnning pathetic and then the typical BK smugness afterwards! Looking to blame anyone but, himself!
 
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Get ready for the 44-6 response of which, I could've been the coach and won 40 of those games. Congrats BK you won 4 more games than I would've🤔 Bottom line a place like LSU where cheating is absolutely ignored is about the only kind of place BK will ever have a CHANCE to win a NC. He's simply to average at so many things to be a great coach and win one at a place like ND! In fact I hope he is never allowed back on ND grounds EVER AGAIN! I HATED HIM THE MOMENT HIS TEAM WASN'T PREPARED FOR A FAKE FG AGAINST MSU!!!



Fnning pathetic and then the typical BK smugness afterwards! Looking to blame anyone but, himself!
Who the hell is #45?
 
Who the hell is #45?
Yep, #45 is as clueless as the coach but, there is no way a play like that should ever succeed in that scenario. As the head coach you have to tell your special teams coach to have fg safe on and make sure no one can get behind any player wearing a GOLD HELMET! Our coach for this game Mr. SMUGGG failed miserably on this play and that's why ND lost, period end of conversation!
 
The telling heads like to prop up Freeman but what matters is how to stack up to your competition.

BK’s average class from 2011-2021 was 11.9.

Freeman’s 2023 class was #12. The 2024 class will be very unlikely to break the top 12 considering last years data and the forecast of the 247 calculator. So the margin between BK and Freeman will widen.

So, while it feels like freeman is more likable and a harder working recruiter himself, he’s currently behind BK. BK was a master delegator. Most great coaches are.

It’s not about who you get, it’s about how they stack up to the other teams in the nation in any given year. Some years simply have better guys than others. So while the blue chip ratio looks slightly better, it’s better for all the teams that are normally above us too.

Let the haters hate. BK still the better recruiter, unfortunately.
Clown thread.
 
Kind of off topic but why does the ND community felate/defend whoever the current head coach is to the very bitter end but then once that coach leaves it's like open season to bash the living F out of him?

I was posting for years about BKs lack of big wins, lack of big recruits, lack of dynamic roster, lack of success relative to the other elite programs in the country, etc. and all i got was vitriol and utter hate from the ND community for it.

Now everybody seems to be on the bash BK bandwagon stomping on his memory at ND.
Pure tribalism.

The OTHER is always EVIL.

ME LIKE MY GUY, NOT OTHER GUY. HIM BAD.

Plus, Kelly committed the UNFORGIVABLE SIN of telling ND to SHOVE IT.

That's not merely REJECTION. That's rejection of something many consider SACROSANCT.

To many, an ND coach is only allowed to quit if he's bad and then proves it elsewhere, OR he's good and heads straight for CELESTIAL RETIREMENT (though still on earth) pending DEIFICATION.

But to quit ND and go work for LSU in the loathed and dreaded SEC?

That's grounds for being DRAWN and QUARTERED.

Or at least to many.
 
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4-4-3 responding to chaseball.

Whatever was said, classic stuff.
 
Go back and read what all the BK haters said abojt him when he was still our coach. They defended him tooth and nail. They called him the winningest coach. They defended him as one of the top 5.

Now they’re so happy he is gone and he sucked and Freeman is far superior in every way.

I’m not taking sides, it’s just funny and predictable human nature.
 
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Go back and read what all the BK haters said abojt him when he was still our coach. They defended him tooth and nail. They called him the winningest coach. They defended him as one of the top 5.

Now they’re so happy he is gone and he sucked and Freeman is far superior in every way.

I’m not taking sides, it’s just funny and predictable human nature.
I hate no one, I'm so happy he is gone. I'm just waiting for sbj to name big wins in 44-6 run. Freeman has a demeanor I like and pulling for.
 
He meant in the CFP when the real QB someone named Trevor played and the game was over before it started like almost every big game under BK!
Agree but under bk you can get to the big games

We need a coach who can get to them and win… you can’t get to them if you lose moronic games during the season or if you’re MO is recruiting and you aren’t improving it
 
Agree but under bk you can get to the big games

We need a coach who can get to them and win… you can’t get to them if you lose moronic games during the season or if you’re MO is recruiting and you aren’t improving it
You have 1 season of evidence with no qb. Stop acting like you know what is going to happen

Recruiting has improved

His MO was he was a great defensive coach and recruiter
 
Go back and read what all the BK haters said abojt him when he was still our coach. They defended him tooth and nail. They called him the winningest coach. They defended him as one of the top 5.

Now they’re so happy he is gone and he sucked and Freeman is far superior in every way.

I’m not taking sides, it’s just funny and predictable human nature.
Since 2014 when the CFB playoff started, seven teams have qualified twice for the 4-team CFB Playoff, and Notre Dame is one of them.

Credit to Brian Kelly.

Some posters can spin that, such as losing to Alabama and Clemson..., any way they wish.
 
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Agree but under bk you can get to the big games

We need a coach who can get to them and win… you can’t get to them if you lose moronic games during the season or if you’re MO is recruiting and you aren’t improving it
BK lost plenty of those games including at home to Tulsa and USF in his first 2 years. So stop and give the guy a chance cause I don't recall Mr. SMUGGG going 10-3 in his first year.
 
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Since 2014 when the CFB playoff started, seven teams have qualified twice for the 4-team CFB Playoff, and Notre Dame is one of them.

Credit to Brian Kelly.

Some posters can spin that, such as losing to Alabama and Clemson..., any way they wish.
When is the day coming that you will just get tired of posting the same moronic posts and call it a day? You haven't posted anything worthwhile in almost 75,000 posts! Or maybe one day a mod with some balls will just ban you for good!
 
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What he did at LSU is irrelevant to what he did or didn't do here
Not really.

When some made the point that he can’t beat good teams, his win over Alabama proved them wrong.

It also emphasizes that the higher academic standards are a clear impediment to beating highly ranked teams with lesser academic standards.
 
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He meant in the CFP when the real QB someone named Trevor played and the game was over before it started like almost every big game under BK!
You missed the point !

Have someone explain it to you.

You can’t denigrate Kelly for beating Clemson with DJU as QB and then rave about Freeman beating Clemson with DJU as the QB.

Now do you understand ?
 
Not really.

When some made the point that he can’t beat good teams, his win over Alabama proved them wrong.

It also emphasizes that the higher academic standards are a clear impediment to beating highly ranked teams with lesser academic standards.
He didn't beat any great teams while he was here. He beat a lot of good teams but no great ones. That was frustrating and I expect Freeman to change that
 
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Not really.

When some made the point that he can’t beat good teams, his win over Alabama proved them wrong.

It also emphasizes that the higher academic standards are a clear impediment to beating highly ranked teams with lesser academic standards.
Les Miles won a championship at LSU bfd, it's really not that hard when there is no limit to how much you can cheat to achieve that goal. And he still won't win a NC!!
 
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Kind of off topic but why does the ND community felate/defend whoever the current head coach is to the very bitter end but then once that coach leaves it's like open season to bash the living F out of him?

I was posting for years about BKs lack of big wins, lack of big recruits, lack of dynamic roster, lack of success relative to the other elite programs in the country, etc. and all i got was vitriol and utter hate from the ND community for it.

Now everybody seems to be on the bash BK bandwagon stomping on his memory at ND.
The other “elite“ programs don’t have the same academic standards, hence any coach at ND, Stanford, Rice, Duke, BC, Northwestern and other colleges with higher academic standards will always be at a disadvantage !
 
He didn't beat any great teams while he was here. He beat a lot of good teams but no great ones. That was frustrating and I expect Freeman to change that
Define “great”

Is a team ranked in the top 10 “great” ?

i don‘t have your optimism, but I hope that I’m wrong.
 
Les Miles won a championship at LSU bfd, it's really not that hard when there is no limit to how much you can cheat to achieve that goal. And he still won't win a NC!!
If you think it’s “not that hard to win, you don’t know much about football.

Cite the unlimited cheating that you’re accusing LSU of practicing for decades !
 
You missed the point !

Have someone explain it to you.

You can’t denigrate Kelly for beating Clemson with DJU as QB and then rave about Freeman beating Clemson with DJU as the QB.

Now do you understand ?
Wtf are you talking about? I don't give a shit that either BK or MF beat Clemson w/ DJU! What I care about and the fact is when TL played he beat the shit out of BK! Anything other than that I don't care. My point is BK never beat anyone period! His best win wouldn't make Lou's top 10! Now do you Understand?
 
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If you think it’s “not that hard to win, you don’t know much about football.

Cite the unlimited cheating that you’re accusing LSU of practicing for decades !
They just got their ass handed to them literally this week for what Miles did and he's banned for life from LSU. All their wins under him have been vacated! If you don't think LSU has been cheating for deacdes then you really don't know anything about CFB! And stop posting like your above everyone on this board. I've forgotten more about ND and CFB than you will ever ****ing know!
 
Wtf are you talking about? I don't give a shit that either BK or MF beat Clemson w/ DJU! What I care about and the fact is when TL played he beat the shit out of BK! Anything other than that I don't care. My point is BK never beat anyone period! His best win wouldn't make Lou's top 10! Now do you Understand?
Notre Dame was a 9 point underdog to # 8 ranked Oklahoma and Kelly beat them 31-13.

How’s that for understanding ?

Try doing your homework before you make dumb, inaccurate statements !
 
Notre Dame was a 9 point underdog to # 8 ranked Oklahoma and Kelly beat them 31-13.

How’s that for understanding ?

Try doing your homework before you make dumb, inaccurate statements !
Never wrestle with a pig.
 
Notre Dame was a 9 point underdog to # 8 ranked Oklahoma and Kelly beat them 31-13.

How’s that for understanding ?

Try doing your homework before you make dumb, inaccurate statements !
BFD they finished with 3 losses! Again wouldn't even make Lou's top 10!! Keep trying and post next when BK wins a NC!!!
 
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They just got their ass handed to them literally this week for what Miles did and he's banned for life from LSU. All their wins under him have been vacated! If you don't think LSU has been cheating for deacdes then you really don't know anything about CFB! And stop posting like your above everyone on this board. I've forgotten more about ND and CFB than you will ever ****ing know!
Cite the infractions LSU committed, year by year starting with 2022.

And since you know so much about CFB you shouldn’t have any problem making those citations in the next minute without looking anything up on Google or other sources.
Go ahead genius, start with 2022.

We await your enlightened and prompt response
 
Cite the infractions LSU committed, year by year starting with 2022.

And since you know so much about CFB you shouldn’t have any problem making those citations in the next minute without looking anything up on Google or other sources.
Go ahead genius, start with 2022.

We await your enlightened and prompt response
Never wrestle with a pig.
 
BFD they finished with 3 losses! Again wouldn't even make Lou's top 10!! Keep trying and post next win BK wins a NC!!!
At the time ND played Oklahoma they were ranked # 8 and ND was a 9 point underdog.

What happened after ND beat them is irrelevant.

Kelly just beat Alabama !
How many coaches can make that claim in the Saban era.
 
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I‘m beginning to think that “Kelly derangement syndrome” thrives on this site ! 😜
 
Cite the infractions LSU committed, year by year starting with 2022.

And since you know so much about CFB you shouldn’t have any problem making those citations in the next minute without looking anything up on Google or other sources.
Go ahead genius, start with 2022.

We await your enlightened and prompt response
Ok I get it you've actually never experienced real legendary ND football and only know BK thus you think what he did was of legend. Do you need a trophy for participation? GTFO you BK POS!
 
At the time ND played Oklahoma they were ranked # 8 and ND was a 9 point underdog.

What happened after ND beat them is irrelevant.

Kelly just beat Alabama !
How many coaches can make that claim in the Saban era.
Did he do it at ND????????????????????? The mother****er didn't want to come back out from halftime in 2012! POS, negotiating with the Eagles instead of preparing his team! POS!! It's also why Lou Holtz can't stand him!!!
 
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At the time ND played Oklahoma they were ranked # 8 and ND was a 9 point underdog.

What happened after ND beat them is irrelevant.

Kelly just beat Alabama !
How many coaches can make that claim in the Saban era.
From the LSU board some time ago:

Saban told a close friend "Brian Kelly is one of the last great tacticians in the game,”​

Posted on 11/6/22 at 12:13 pm
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Sports Illustrated - One man who isn’t surprised that Kelly could draw up such a play is Saban himself. One of Saban’s dearest friends, Lenny Lemoine, a Baton Rouge businessman and LSU booster, spent last weekend with the coach to celebrate his birthday. The two talked about the Tigers’ new football coach.

“He told me that he thinks Brian is one of the last great tacticians in the game,” Lemoine said.
 
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