BK > Freeman As Recruiter
- Thread starter Terry Jillery
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And Weis was better than both of them. Not sure what you’re getting at?
Kelly had a very good tenure at ND, didn’t complete the mission and ultimately left with some unfinished business. One step away from a Brian Kelly statue.
Marcus has been here for a hot minute … let’s give him a chance. The fair comparisons can be made when his tenure is over. I for one hope to enter the stadium through the Freeman Gate someday.
You call yourself a Notre dame football fan and you don’t know who george Gipp is!??? stunning. He’s only the most well known, significant footballer ever here and along with Rockne what everything about nd football was built upon. You’re a fraud and a loser as a “ fan”. Read some history and try to educate yourself
This is a silly take.
I can't even start. Class rankings is simply the wrong metric and your conclusion is totally flawed based on the incorrect assumption that year over year class rankings is remotely relevant.
It does not matter that Bama has a 3 million dollar QB. It does not matter that Texas A&M has store bought team. It does not matter that the portal is open season, but MF can only take basically grad students. Yes, it does matter. BK basically by passed it. He left ND because of it. Take the the 100 players and cut it in half and that is the pool ND has to swim in. Yes, it does matter . Until the administration decides to do something about it than expect a lot more of the same hovering around the top 10, but not the top five willing to find a diamond in the rough. CJ Carr is an exception. Drake Mayr was offered 2 million to leave UNC, but turned it down. You will not find that very often. Both of them will go along way in life
It's easy for schools to throw these figures around, with zero proof that all of the reported money amounts are true.
Intention was not to bash Gipp, it is what it is and the guy is an icon to me. my criticism was directed at the hypocrisy of some for attacking kids at other schools while knowing few facts. Unless your own house is squeaky clean you don’t throw rocks at others. And I’m not sure there’s a single d1 school that can pass that test. Not a shot at Gipp at all. A shot at hypocrisy
facts suck
Reality is freeman right now has improved our skill positions but the lines are falling off. Crazy part is he stated his program would be built around the lines and it just isn't. I really like our skill recruiting, but that's only about half your starters. Line recruiting needs major help.
Not the point! You've posted on here 100x's a day for 20 years acting like you have some birth right to defend all things ND and you don't even know who George Gipp is? Even if he said GG you should know who that is!!! You've been a fraud on this board forever and not knowing who George Gipp says it all for me!!!!! Keep trolling your pathetic!
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I don't need football season to start. Looking forward to the Dodger game tonight, Fourth Of July, and golf in Palm Springs soon.
Comparing 10 years to less than 2.
The intelligence is flowing on the board as usual.
The intelligence is flowing on the board as usual.
He can't cause there isn't a single significant win that would even make Lou's top 10! All-time winningest coach who never won a single BIG-Time game ever. FSU was the closest he ever came to winning anything memorable! He's also the all-time losingest coach so besides putting ND back on solid ground in 11 years he accomplished not a single ND moment that's frozen in time! He is what he is and I'm glad his smug ass is gone!
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So Kelly had talent but sucked as a coach against good teams? BK = Marv Levy
Almost all speculation and guesswork, congratulations. What i know is what cmf said, nil is not negatively impacting nd recruiting. That’s from the head coach
“BK basically by passed it. He left ND because of it.”
Telling comments.
Brian Kelly couldn’t accomplish at ND what he set out to do. And as he – AND OTHER REALISTS – well knew, ND would only go so far to help him.
So, given the advent of NIL and the portal, things would have only gotten HARDER for Kelly, something he was also, NO DOUBT, quite aware of. So, when LSU offered him the job, how could he NOT take it?
As for Freeman, EVERYTHING KELLY WALKED AWAY FROM is now in the new guy’s lap.
Can he do better than Kelly given the same circumstances?
TO DO THAT, HE WILL NEED TO BE A BETTER OVERALL COACH THEN KELLY. HOW LIKELY IS THAT?
Will ND now change and ACCOMMODATE ITSELF to Freeman’s needs?
WHEN HAS ND DONE THAT SINCE HOLTZ? NEVER. HOW LIKELY IS IT TO DO IT NOW?
Will Freeman somehow OUTRECRUIT NIL and the portal?
IS SUCH A THING EVEN POSSIBLE?
I’d say it’s ALL a pretty TALL ORDER.
And I, for one, DON’T BET ON TALL ORDERS. If they happen, they happen -- but not with MY MONEY at risk.
If Freeman does nothing more than COME CLOSE to accomplishing what Kelly did, he will, in my estimation, have ACQUITTED HIMSELF WELL.
That's a bit extreme. BK had good wins and over came Southern Cal and Clemson. Right now our old headaches are at two top programs while we have an internally promoted, new on the job, 8 win coach.
Last time Kelly played Clemson here we got taken to the woodshed. He only beat them once with their backup QB
Freeman destroyed Clemson
Kelly feasted on poor HCs at SC. Now they got Riley and Williams. New ballgame
🥱Good wins are not legendary, program changing wins again of which, he had none! How can you be the winningest coach in school history and not have that kind of win or a NC?? I will tell you why cause he is what he is a good coach and nothing more! Overcame USC they were as average as you can get for most of his tenure and Clemson well, we all saw what happened when their real QB played against us. Nice try keep on playing/defending him he doesn't have many left on this site or anywhere for that matter. Btw pretty classy way he left🥱
Wasn’t that with the same QB, DJU ?
Kelly didn’t get to pick the coaches he played against.
Didn‘t Kelly beat Saban and Alabama last year ?
Is there a better coach in college football than Saban ?
He meant in the CFP when the real QB someone named Trevor played and the game was over before it started like almost every big game under BK!
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Kind of off topic but why does the ND community felate/defend whoever the current head coach is to the very bitter end but then once that coach leaves it's like open season to bash the living F out of him?
I was posting for years about BKs lack of big wins, lack of big recruits, lack of dynamic roster, lack of success relative to the other elite programs in the country, etc. and all i got was vitriol and utter hate from the ND community for it.
Now everybody seems to be on the bash BK bandwagon stomping on his memory at ND.
