Another big game failure.
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Hate to go here, but Holtz had so much big game success because you just knew we’d be able to run on anyone. Didn’t matter who we played, the run game would keep us in it.
Have to get back to that point. Until we do, we’ll keep losing these Top-10 matchups.
I said our defense was golden ...yes pun intended....but would be much better than Freeman's version. Golden is a better coach.
But...
OSU had a drop ( pass behind the receiver) ...
( the one where the receivers were still talking amongst each other when ball was snapped. If that pass is caught it's a touchdown.
#79 had 5 false starts that helped our cause.
The OSU QB broke contain a lot and they made three tight rope sideline catches.
Trust me I want our D to be all world and it will be the best we've had in quite some time but I must tell you we got some help last night.
The Running game has to start with a team philosophy and a priority to build a dominant running game. with Lou that was his priority and
he brought in the best line coach around in Joe Moore. The great lines attracted great running backs. Tight ends were always big and strong, and
the QB’s were good but not necessarily great.
Notre Dame has not had the Run first philosophy since Lou left ! I see no signs of a top notch consistent running game coming back to ND.
All the difference in the world. Carrol played rushed and wasn't patient. Like I said Sunday, I like what I see and having watched most of the other teams on the schedule, ND is going to be favored in the remaining games. The OSU offensive line played a good game and did an excellent job of Foskey with the quick or late double team.
Lol, you believe your own shit sometimes, don’t you.
79 had 3 false starts, and two of the 3 occurred on their TD drives in second half. So not much help, none killed a drive or had any impact.
the OSU WRs made 3 terrific catches that few receiving corps can make, and they bailed out CJ, and one was out of bounds but they snapped the ball too quick for a review.
the biggest opportunity is the OL, which will take time to gel, we hope.
Stroud missed a couple of wide open wrs too. I don't think that he was under great pressure when it happened.
We otoh, did we even attempt a pass that went 25 yards?
And you can keep on being sold on HH and his magical coaching and you'll buy all the bullshit they tell you.
but....
the games have to be plaued and already been played
Every one of our biggest games under HH our rushing attack has been a joke.
A conplete joke.
Our stats are an average of like 32 for 68-72 yards...
Somewhere in there.
He might get a get selected by the first round by collectively we do NOT dominate the LOS!
Period.
You will buy all they sell you about HH though so rock on
I did a thread on this long ago and looking into all of our big games and HH
What’s the old expression. Throw to score but you run tge
The old saying, You throw to score but you run the ball to win.
so, you didn't even address my reply, because I called you out on your exaggerations. I only spoke above to the defense and to how OSU WRs made some great catches.
And where did I anoint HH? I said its the biggest opportunity. And I also battled with the Quinn haters/HH lovers last year when they predicted an amazing turnaround on the OL
You are getting your schtick confused
I saw that as well. The second series of the game on the 2nd run, he got completely owned by the DL
#79 and seceral false starts. I didn't say they stopped drives but they helped our defense...that ultimately broke anyway.
Stroud had some errant throws and but what was more important if you actually watched the game or rather knew the game...
Was all those sideline catches were after he bailed out the pocket.
Those catches were good...i wouldn't call them great with the gloves they have today but the fact remains he broke contain all night. Matter of fact he could've bailed every play..we weren't containing him.
Perhaps Golden stressed don't worry about containing (WHICH I HIGHLY DOUBT) but you never know...Stroud looked completely disinterested in running the ball. In other words much rather throw it.
Either way we allowed him much more time and we paid for them. All were big first down pickups I believe.
What's the biggest opportunity for HH?
Bigger than his other previous chances when we couldn't run under him in big games....we still can't run under him in big games.
The games have been played......and under BK the top rushing performances in the biggest of games were in 2012 @ Norman one huge rushing game in HH entire tebure as Oline coach against top teams. One?
Don't hold your breath on that "big opportunity"
HH is coaching...
2012 @ OU
US...39-212
2012 vs Alabama title game
US...19-32 yeah...32 yards
Bama...45-265
Loss
2015 @ Clemson
Us...32-111 26 yards of which from one Kizer scramble
CU...43-212
Loss
2015 Vs. OSU bowl game
Us....32-121
OSU...54-285
Loss
2017 vs Georgia
US...37-55
UGA...43-185
Loss
2017 @ Miami
US...36-109
UM...42-237
Loss
HH leaves...
2018 vs Clemson playoff
Us...35-88
CU...37-211
Loss
2019 @ UGA
Us...14-46
UGA...33-152
Loss
2019 @ Michigan
Us...31-47
UM...57-303
Loss
2020 vs Clemson
weird Covid year...
Us...40-208
CU...33-34 yes..34 yards
Win
Nearly lost this game
2020 vs Clemson acc title game
Us..30-44
CU...27-219
Loss
2020 playoff vs bama
Us...38-139
Bama...25-140
Loss
2021 vs Cincinnati
Us...26-84
Cinci...30-93
Loss
2021 OkSt bowl game
Us...21-42
OkSt...44-234
Loss
HH returns
2022 @ OSU
Us...30-76
OSU...35-172
Loss
So what's it all mean?
These are the top games IMO in the last decade.
We CAN'T RUN the god damn ball against top teams whether HH is here or not.
"No points last 41 minutes…
Rees is awful"
you think OSU's defense might have been a reason for that?
I sure hope so, but this is 2022 not 1922. Points are easy to score with a good offense.
OSU had a bad game (in their mind offensively) and scored 21 points with an easy missed FG.
My big issue is we didn't come close to scoring last 41 minutes, that's bad.
so ND's defense plays well, and you say "OSU had a bad game offensively". You just can't give ND any credit...
NO!
I think Rees and HH made you think OSU's defense was the reason for that.
In CFB today if you routinely hold good teams to 21-24 points...that's a pretty good defense.
Teams score points present day in CFB ESPECIALLY in the regular season. Good teams score a decent amount. Great teams put up half a hundred.
It's just the way the game has evolved. Teams score quickly...defense doesn't get much rest....the rules today all promote offense...and so on and so on.
BTW...has anyone seen #7?
He plays Tailback for Notre Dame. Bigger back with tremendous feet for his size.
I last seen him on Saturday night in Columbus around 7:45 until about 9:10
Then he just went missing.
You think that same defense is going to stuff most of their conference opponents for under 11 points?
I said in their mind… ray has said it over and over they didn’t play well and had to win tough. I think nd D was a huge part of that
my point is both teams feel their offense played bad, just ours didn’t sniff points last 41 minutes.theirs played better and better as the game went on
He also was awesome in pass pro where tyree struggled some.
I think Rees called an ok game after re watching, but the execution was so bad it has to be his coaching up to the games.
