Notre Dame special teams coordinator Marty Biagi spoke to local beat writers after Thursday's practice on campus. Here's a transcript of that interview session. The questions may be paraphrased.
MARTY BIAGI
Have you been able to identify a core of special teams contributors for coverage/return, etc.?
“Yes, we have. We feel like we’re in a good spot — there are some young guys, and I’m not going to be able to remember all of them which is a great problem to have. Anytime you have great leadership at the linebacker position with Coach Golden, Coach Bullough, veteran guys, guys like Drayk Bowen and Jaiden Ausberry are guys that we're expecting to step in and help us. Thomas Harper has come on come in and done a great job. [Clarence] Lewis, C-Lew, has done a great job. And then there's some young guys, Rico Flores and [Jaden] Greathouse are guys that hey, if coach gives us the green light to play them, we want to get them active in situations.”
How do you identify freshman wide receivers —as opposed to typical safeties and corners — for these types of roles?
I think it helped that they were here this spring to be able — because they know offense, they know ball. Because as an incoming freshman, it's really so many situations, it’s not so much ‘Hey, can you just line up a gunner?’ You have to learn all the offensive playbook or even defensive playbook, but there's so many special teams situations that you only get limited time to cover. And so you're looking for those guys that are locked in in meetings and aren’t making the same mistake twice, or understanding ‘Hey, if we’re working on a pooch punt, you know you have to get to the goal line and turn back,’ as opposed to they do it once, and then they don't learn from it. When it's a younger guy, you're looking to see can they make the adjustment quickly with a sense of urgency?”
What kind of conversations do you have to have with Marcus Freeman about playing a freshman primarily on special teams that may be in line for a redshirt?
“If it’s somebody that’s going to play, in my opinion and talking with coach — if they're going to be a reliable 3-4, what we call a core four starter, they're going to play. Because it's enough snaps if you went back to chart it that it's a viable option. We don't want to put somebody out there that only plays 14 snaps a year. What happens is it might be they start out on only one or two, you start to hit game six, either because they injuries just because of their progressing, and now they're on three or four by the end of the season. The head coach always has the final say, but we kind of look, and start to by the end of this next block, identify, OK, we feel like we need to get this guy in the game and see. Then you can always use that four-short window to decide. They don't have to play all at the beginning. The four-game guys. You might see him for one or two [games] and then hold for a little bit. That's something that we'll get into after this scrimmage.”
What you've seen in camp from kicker Spencer Shrader?
"More than anything just a mental toughness. I know that word gets thrown around a lot. What's very exciting about Spencer also playing competitive international soccer and having a mindset where you have to perform on penalty kicks or clutch kicks, it's something that he's already used to doing. With his presence and playing already now in college football games, it's really just trying to finetune. We're working a couple different things on his technique. Really we want a clean ball path. People always ask, 'Oh, what's a kicker's range?' To me, it doesn't matter what his range is if he's not consistent from that range. Knowing that we can consistently hit that really good ball and then knowing where our landmark is is what we're excited about. He's had a great camp."
It has to be a nice comfort level with Michael Vinson’s experience at long snapper, right?
“It is. He's a captain in the locker room, whether he's voted one I don't know. He has that presence. He loves this university. He loves this program. If you say, ‘Milk, go hold the chains,’ he’ll do it. No job is too small. That's just an exciting thing to have two veteran guys between he and Spencer. They really make sure there's no egos in the room. He has a lot of potential to even get better this year. He's been very consistent. That's the thing: hopefully you all never have to call his name. It’s hard, because he deserves a lot of praise that goes unnoticed. That's what the role of a long snapper is. We embrace him for that.”
How close to making a punter decision?
“Right now, Bryce is going to be our starting punter going in. He’s earned that. He’s competed in camp. He’s done really well. This spring I wanted him to prove that he can be more consistent and even challenged him after the spring game. He had a really good spring and then performed in the spring game not to the level that was the right standard. We used it as a learning experience. These are elements that you’re going to have to deal with. No excuses and practice those things. He’s come out and done really well from a consistency standpoint. Everybody wants to see the high, long ball. But what we care about is our operation time and our hang time. If you can consistently have a low op time and then get that hang time to where we want, we feel like that unit can also be an aggressive unit. An attacking, flip-the-field-type unit.”
Do you prefer to have punters/kickers who are athletes?
“Yes. We’re always looking for an athlete first. Even long snapping. We’re looking for anybody that portrays those different athletes, plays a different sport, that’s huge. They can carry over some of that. Like Bryce’s wrestling background and his track background. He’s able to actually use some of his technique in his jumping that would allow him to work on his finish and his hang time. That’s what we’re really finetuning is shorter steps so we can get more hang time on the ball.”
What's the competition looking like with Shrader and Yoakam for kickoffs?
"They definitely both will be competing in that regard. Spencer, right now, would be our starting kickoff guy. With that just from a leg-strength standpoint. It's just a perfect point that any point that the two has to be ready to step right in." He was alluding to the fact that Yoakam had to fill in right before the season opener last year in that last sentence.
Does Shrader’s ability to get touchbacks routinely on kickoffs become the weekly game plan?
“Could be. It just depends on the game plan. To know that’s in the bag as an asset, absolutely. I don’t want to belittle your question, but we don’t want to sit there and assume. We're going to do what's best for Notre Dame that week. So if there's a game plan, that there's something that we need to do to help us or we think we can get a competitive advantage by kicking the ball up to the two-yard line and going to cover and trying to pin him in. We're going to look at that.”
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