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Why don’t people see losers for losers?

Switch Penn state's schedule with Notre Dame schedule and Penn state's win-loss record would be significantly greater

That's why you use a tool like f Plus that adjusts for opponent quality and when you do that Penn State has had the better program over the last several years. They've just played a tough slate of teams in the Big ten
Nonsense.

Why don’t people see losers for losers?

“That's a pretty low bar. Florida used to be a top 15 job. Not so sure now.”

What’s a pretty low bar? Going 9-4 twice & 11-2 once at Minnesota? I don’t think that’s easy to do. But I’m no fleck lover. He’s just far and away more successful than Napier has been. That’s why I didn’t get your comment about him being the “PJ fleck of the SEC”. My point was he kinda wishes he was as good as fleck at this point.
PJ was just another in a long list of flavors of the month. That boat he likes to row has been taking on water for some time. My point was both were hyped and neither has lived up to it. You'll never here either of them mentioned for a big time job again going forward.

Herbstreit

Connor Weigman absolutely sucked. Obviously our defense had something do with that, a lot to do with it. But the idea that this plodding, thus-far underachieving, very likely to be yet another five star bust/disappointment QB was all set to shred ND apart and take his place in the pantheon of great QBs of the last thirty years, but our defense was such a towering colossus that we made him look like a shitty walk-on instead, is not accurate. It's in the same vein as the whole Anthonie Knapp is an OL of destiny thing that preceded the game.

Knapp got the nod by force of unfortunate circumstance, which happens sometimes and teams have to start a true frosh for lack of a preferred alternative and it is what it is, and it worked out tolerably enough and we got the win. And Connor Weigman just plain sucks, even though of course the defense was all over him, and shut him down, and he played like shit. Both with excellent individual play, and presumably good tactical scheming to throw him off his rhythm and whatnot. But he definitely did suck all on his own to the point where it was almost annoying, and insulting. As if to say, god damn dude, you suck. How many times are you going to miss your WRs that are being well defended, but not that well defended, and make some shitty lame throw that lands at their feet, or sails ten feet over their head?

But whatever, we got the win. And we'll be 11-0 heading into the big USC game, and maybe USC will still be nursing playoff possibilities of their own, as their defense looks much improved...
Worked out very well with Knapp given the environment of the first game. The future is very bright with these young guys upfront. The longer the game went on the better they got.

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Herbstreit

Connor Weigman absolutely sucked. Obviously our defense had something do with that, a lot to do with it. But the idea that this plodding, thus-far underachieving, very likely to be yet another five star bust/disappointment QB was all set to shred ND apart and take his place in the pantheon of great QBs of the last thirty years, but our defense was such a towering colossus that we made him look like a shitty walk-on instead, is not accurate. It's in the same vein as the whole Anthonie Knapp is an OL of destiny thing that preceded the game.

Knapp got the nod by force of unfortunate circumstance, which happens sometimes and teams have to start a true frosh for lack of a preferred alternative and it is what it is, and it worked out tolerably enough and we got the win. And Connor Weigman just plain sucks, even though of course the defense was all over him, and shut him down, and he played like shit. Both with excellent individual play, and presumably good tactical scheming to throw him off his rhythm and whatnot. But he definitely did suck all on his own to the point where it was almost annoying, and insulting. As if to say, god damn dude, you suck. How many times are you going to miss your WRs that are being well defended, but not that well defended, and make some shitty lame throw that lands at their feet, or sails ten feet over their head?

But whatever, we got the win. And we'll be 11-0 heading into the big USC game, and maybe USC will still be nursing playoff possibilities of their own, as their defense looks much improved...

Linebackers

He also played the least. And I wouldn't use PFF for ny grades. They are pretty bad at it
On the eye test after watching a second time, I thought Ausberry played really good, and held up much better inside the box than I expected. Sneed was awesome when he had one clear task. When he had to break off and cover someone he was late in reacting.

Minor details, because they all played good.

My concern with Bowen is he could never make a block miss, at times he blew it up, other times he got taken out of the play a little easy.

I don't expect any rotation to change after game 1, maybe just more situational in what the other team is doing.
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Herbstreit

For what it's worth, I thought Herbstreit and Fowler had lots of nice things to say about Notre Dame during the game. I also tend to think that our fans overreact and take any comment from an announcer that is not over-the-top Tony Robertsesque pro-ND as some kind of insult.

I also thought the officiating was fair. The fourth down spot looked bad to me, but they never showed the other side, which may have shown something we didn't see. Someone also posted that the refs gifted A&M with its TD but we committed two big penalties, hands to the face, which they did not show on replay, and a pretty obvious PI in the end zone, which they did.

Ultimately, I think the game came down to our QB playing a little better in difficult circumstances than their QB, who was playing in favorable circumstances. Leonard avoided disaster and seized enough opportunities presented to him to lead us to victory. Weigman, not so much.
Agree. Weigman looked like he played scared, though maybe ND's D played a huge role in that. Leonard looked poised and confident.

On the 4th down spot, there was some interesting information I read this morning in The Athletic about that call. The article had some screen shots that showed the unofficial yellow line on TV was about a half yard behind the actual LOS, so it made it appear Leonard had easily gotten the first down, when in fact he came up short. And while we got the short end of the stick on that call, we probably lucked out when Beaux Collins wasn't whistled for a personal foul after he shoved the TAMU DB in the back after his 20-yard catch on the sideline. In fact, in the story on the main page I saw that Collins said he saw the official reach for the flag in his back pocket, but then apparently decided not to throw it. We got really lucky with that one, and hopefully that was a teachable moment for Collins about not letting his emotions get the better of him.
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Herbstreit

For what it's worth, I thought Herbstreit and Fowler had lots of nice things to say about Notre Dame during the game. I also tend to think that our fans overreact and take any comment from an announcer that is not over-the-top Tony Robertsesque pro-ND as some kind of insult.

I also thought the officiating was fair. The fourth down spot looked bad to me, but they never showed the other side, which may have shown something we didn't see. Someone also posted that the refs gifted A&M with its TD but we committed two big penalties, hands to the face, which they did not show on replay, and a pretty obvious PI in the end zone, which they did.

Ultimately, I think the game came down to our QB playing a little better in difficult circumstances than their QB, who was playing in favorable circumstances. Leonard avoided disaster and seized enough opportunities presented to him to lead us to victory. Weigman, not so much.

BK post pressure….

You make an interesting point about Kelly's inability to motivate players. That has always been a weakness for him. His players seem to fear him, and I suppose they largely respect him, but I am not sure they would run through a wall for him. Watching Kelly go purple while he screamed at Dayne Crist is an image I cannot forget with Kelly. Correcting a player when he makes a mistake (even loudly) is one thing; berating them will make them tune right out. How many times did I see a player walk right past Kelly like they didn't care while Kelly was going purple on them? In Kelly's defense, he got better at that as time went on, but I am not sure he ever learned the ability to truly motivate his players. Seeing Marcus Freeman try to fire up the team as they stood in the tunnel waiting to run out onto Kyle Field offered a pretty stark difference between MF's and BK's styles. Freeman has things he needs to get better at, but there is litte doubt his players love him, respect him, and play hard for him. When the game is on the line, those things can make the difference between winning and coming up short.
The image of QB Golson just ignoring Kelly and his teaching tantrum is one that will always stand out to me.
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BK post pressure….

I actually think BK took responsibility and genuinely emoted about his own shortcomings. He basically admitted he can't get it done in the big one, just like we saw at ND. And at LSU he has even more means...hence maybe the deepest soul searching.

BK knows how to organize a football team. Ok but not great Xs and Os and play calling. But he can work with coaches on that stuff. He'd do ok in the NFL in my opinion...but college kids are different.

His main college coaching gap is motivating players. He can't inspire. All too often not only does he lose in big games, but loses big. We saw that so often with ND. And it wasn't just losing to Alabama, but losing big to Miami a few years ago.

Combine this with forcing a certain style and suspect game day calls. He is what he is. Time will tell if he can correct it.

My bet would say no. But you never know. I just think too little too late to change so profoundly as his age.

And yes, as we keep discussing, this is the major edge Marcus Freeman has over him. The players love him. And he knows his limitations and adjusts...just look at the coordinators on both sides of the ball right now. Playing optimally to ND strengths.

You make an interesting point about Kelly's inability to motivate players. That has always been a weakness for him. His players seem to fear him, and I suppose they largely respect him, but I am not sure they would run through a wall for him. Watching Kelly go purple while he screamed at Dayne Crist is an image I cannot forget with Kelly. Correcting a player when he makes a mistake (even loudly) is one thing; berating them will make them tune right out. How many times did I see a player walk right past Kelly like they didn't care while Kelly was going purple on them? In Kelly's defense, he got better at that as time went on, but I am not sure he ever learned the ability to truly motivate his players. Seeing Marcus Freeman try to fire up the team as they stood in the tunnel waiting to run out onto Kyle Field offered a pretty stark difference between MF's and BK's styles. Freeman has things he needs to get better at, but there is litte doubt his players love him, respect him, and play hard for him. When the game is on the line, those things can make the difference between winning and coming up short.

Was Tyler Buchner...

I’ve never seen a further/faster fall of a player. With out some legal issue or major injury.

2 years ago he’s the man, going into osu as the clear qb for nd, so good they didn’t even look at the portal despite his limited experience, potential heisman candidate

2 years later, after two transfers, one with hope of playing a different sport, he’s a signal caller for nd in their opener

Seems like a great person, things happen, but man, that’s a fast fall. Smart enough to come back for the nd degree though!
This.

Was a great move ensuring that he maximizes the opportunity to ND to secure a degree and maybe even some kind of post-grad degree. He'll maybe be positioned to hit the work force at 24 or 25 with unlimited possibilities to earn.

Maybe at some point, he makes a big special teams play. Big late game tackle on kick or punt coverage, picks up a fumble, makes a huge block.

I'm not even sure if there's a pathway for him to get on kick or punt coverage?
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