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Angelli Should be the starter.

In an ideal world you are correct. Pass protection is currently a work in progress and downfield routes need time to develop. I believe ND can run the table with any of their QBs if the offensive line shows growth and improvement going forward. To me that is the most important thing.
You are correct on all points, however, receivers are getting separation, and have been open downfield. This was seen in all 3 games, and proven vs Purdue when Angeli threw half as many passes for almost as many yards as Leonard.

For some reason Leonard is not looking downfield or pulling the trigger, but receivers are getting open downfield.

Purdue game notes

This is my second week with a summary of my thoughts. First Mitchell Evans is a player. He runs great patterns and wins contested balls. He moves the chains. ND needs him on the field. And in PFF he graded out with the highest run blocking grade for Notre Dame in the Purdue game. Second if you read and remember my last week comments I took the coaches to task for having Evans in almost exclusively for pass plays. I contended that that fact, and the inexplicable decision to not run Riley L after the second quarter, led to the second half offensive debacle vs. NIU. This week I am happy to say that all TE's and WR's players had a good balance of run and pass plays when they were in the game . Evans was in the Purdue game for 20 plays per PFF, 11 routes, 1 pass block and 8 run block. Last week against NIU he was in for 22 plays, 17 routes, 1 pass block and 4 run block. Coach Denbrock used a greater variety of motion for run plays and for quick pass plays then the previous week. Against NIU the motion was mostly TE's. In this game coach had running backs and WR's in motion. He also used 2 backs at times. And he used the immense running talents of Riley L. KVA is a beast, but he is so quick he gets to places he doesn't belong, in a sense in the way, in pass coverage. This team needs to keep growing at all offensive positions (yes RB's too as their pass blocking grades have been horrendous) . And on defense the young D linemen and young LB's need a lot of seasoning although their talent is remarkable. Lastly, for all the talk of recruiting and talent ND is 4th among all colleges with 41 player curently on NFL rosters , Georgia is three with 45, Ohio State 2 with 51 and as expected Alabama is 1 with 61. State by SportsGrid. And I am one who believes CMF and staff are recruiting at a higher level. Now its a matter of player development and winning on the field. A last tidbit. In looking at the CURRENT AP Poll ND is the only team in the top 25 to face off against two top 25 teams. No one else has. The polls will change. But ND would benefit by NIU and Texas A & M, along with everyone else on their schedule (think Louisville and USC) winning.

Angelli Should be the starter.

I think given the loss to NIU and how the season and prospect of making the playoffs is very much in peril, starting Angeli is the logical choice. He needs some work too, but the fact that he can stretch the defense with downfield throws is enough. That should free up the running game and take a bit off the o-line. Right now, any team with a stout front 7 should be loading the box on us and daring Riley to throw down the field. Why not? He has not proven he can hurt you with the deep ball or even the intermediate routes.

I think I understand Louisville enough and they should be plenty good enough to give Riley and the offense a lot of issues.
You know, I don't know, if that makes a lot of sense. I was in favor of starting Angeli, perhaps hastily and tendentiously, but that was before we absolutely mauled Purdue, when it was more understandable and justifiable So the loss is the loss. We are indeed 2-1 with no margin for error. But after the total dominance of Saturday, where RL was able to comfortably redeem himself, being a total impact guy running the ball his forte, and being very serviceable in the passing game as long as the offense is catered to him sufficiently, I don't see where switching QBs now is the obvious thing to do.

Angeli is a good journeyman level talent. He's probably not a future star, otherwise we wouldn't have sought out a transfer. But he was able to get plenty of 2nd half snaps, once again looked good and capable. And thus is ready to go if RL falters. But I feel like they're going to stick with RL for now. Even though I guess you can still make the same argument that RL is just too flawed, and a QB change would be for the better, as big a deal as that is for a team to do, and even though we just won 66-7. I can't deny that. If anything RL looked weaker than ever throwing the ball.
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Angelli Should be the starter.

Exactly. This thread was inevitable. I believe Leonard should remain the starter as he is best suited to be QB given ALL the factors surrounding the offense Mike Denbrock wants to run. Now if it was a 7 on 7 tournament absolutely Angeli would be the guy.
Leonard will never be as good of a passer as Angeli. No different than Angeli will never be as good as Leonard in running read option and the occasional RPO. When you have a young inexperienced albeit talented offensive line the run blocking will always mature first. Being adept at pass blocking especially on the outside takes time. While Angeli would improve the downfield passing game his limited mobility becomes a liability given the protection struggles and also pretty much eliminates a major part of your run game.
Leonard has had some success throwing the ball at Duke. Hopefully he finds that again. Nothing can be done to make Angeli an effective runner. It's physical. Leonard showed improvement Saturday. Hopefully he builds on that going forward.
Actually a reasonable take. That's not allowed here
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Worst Offensive Performance in Freeman era

Oh so now you can read minds. You know what I'm thinking now. You are the biggest tool on this forum. You were also exposed on the Domer Domain forum as a fraud. 😂

I can still support the team and criticize them at the same time. I'm giving my opinions on Leonard's performance after 3 games, and he can't throw the ball 20 yards. That's a problem when you face a good defense.

Look at Leonard's stats vs ranked opponents. He's atrocious vs ranked opponents, look at his overall stats vs the top 25, not good.

2022 Duke played zero ranked teams, easy schedule even for Duke.

Last year, against ND, Clemson, LVille and FSU (4 ranked teams)
He was:
45 for 99 (45% pass completion)
499 Yards passing (125 yards passing per game)
1 TD 3 INT
Ahh your full of shit. You can't stand him. You want him to fail. Even when he has 3 tds in one half you talk shit.

It's okay you would rather him fail than ND succeed because you want your jersey boy in there. You had a bias and want to be right. It's pathetic

Worst Offensive Performance in Freeman era

Jesus Christ dude. Riley Leonard has absolutely SUCKED this year as a thrower. Anyone agreeing with that is completely justified. Deal with it.

You’re argument makes the coaching staff look dumber for having him out there since he can’t throw worth a shit.
Never said he was throwing good this year. Go back and learn to read. I know that's tough for you. And you shouldn't use the Lords name in vein. That is pathetic.

Especially again when you are saying something I didn't say. Go back and read

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Angelli Should be the starter.

I think given the loss to NIU and how the season and prospect of making the playoffs is very much in peril, starting Angeli is the logical choice. He needs some work too, but the fact that he can stretch the defense with downfield throws is enough. That should free up the running game and take a bit off the o-line. Right now, any team with a stout front 7 should be loading the box on us and daring Riley to throw down the field. Why not? He has not proven he can hurt you with the deep ball or even the intermediate routes.

I think I understand Louisville enough and they should be plenty good enough to give Riley and the offense a lot of issues.
In an ideal world you are correct. Pass protection is currently a work in progress and downfield routes need time to develop. I believe ND can run the table with any of their QBs if the offensive line shows growth and improvement going forward. To me that is the most important thing.

Angelli Should be the starter.

You clearly see WHY ND Wants Riley to be the guy. His running ability is elite, and he SHOULD be able to throw significantly better but he can't mentally right now. He has a huge mental issue going on now where he doesn't trust anything over 5 yards. It's crazy that he missed a few super easy tds vs Purdue and we would have scored even more, if he had any ability to keep his head up, or look downfield, then actually throw it. I'm confident he actually saw some wide open players but didn't trust it.

He is the main reason for our 1 loss. The coaches and him better get it right, another loss and this season is an absolute failure.

Angelli Should be the starter.

I think given the loss to NIU and how the season and prospect of making the playoffs is very much in peril, starting Angeli is the logical choice. He needs some work too, but the fact that he can stretch the defense with downfield throws is enough. That should free up the running game and take a bit off the o-line. Right now, any team with a stout front 7 should be loading the box on us and daring Riley to throw down the field. Why not? He has not proven he can hurt you with the deep ball or even the intermediate routes.

I think I understand Louisville enough and they should be plenty good enough to give Riley and the offense a lot of issues.
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