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Golson5 · Nov 24, 2024

sjb75 said:
Agree. There’s something about playing a soft schedule, losing at home to crappy Northern Illinois, and then saying a top 4 ranking is deserved that does not add up correctly.

I'm not surprised at all you said that

sjb75 · Nov 24, 2024

banmate6 said:
I rate Penn State higher than ND on a better schedule and losing to Ohio State rather than NIU.

But I now think it's 50:50 between the Irish and Nittany Lions in a playoff game.

Only the top 4 I mentioned give me some pause...but I am hoping ND shows upside obfuscated by this schedule.

Agree. There’s something about playing a soft schedule, losing at home to crappy Northern Illinois, and then saying a top 4 ranking is deserved that does not add up correctly.

Golson5 · Nov 24, 2024

Patrish said:
30 mph ?
There was no wind !

30 mph wins according to broadcast before game. If you don't believe that, talk to them about it

sjb75 · Nov 24, 2024

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Patrish · Nov 24, 2024

Golson5 said:
30 mph wind favors Army

30 mph ?
There was no wind !

banmate6 · Nov 24, 2024

BTW: USC is leading UCLA. Neither team is impressive overall. But as I said earlier, USC can be explosive and has some talent...and can be dangerous.

I still feel ND should be able to manage a win next week. 75%. Have to avoid a letdown, no silly mistakes. I hope Denbrock calls the right game vs a weak USC D.

I'm confident Irish defense can handle the volatile USC O...that struggles in the red zone.

banmate6 · Nov 24, 2024

sjb75 said:
Given the fact that both teams have played soft schedules, losing to Northern Illinois is why I would vote Notre Dame slightly behind 10-1 Penn State.

I rate Penn State higher than ND on a better schedule and losing to Ohio State rather than NIU.

But I now think it's 50:50 between the Irish and Nittany Lions in a playoff game.

Only the top 4 I mentioned give me some pause...but I am hoping ND shows upside obfuscated by this schedule.

Golson5 · Nov 24, 2024

banmate6 said:
The SEC is still very good. And sure, they are inflicting losses on each other, compounding out of conference losses.

You also are doing what may critics of ND do...short quips like: they played NIU las week.

I don't know what that means.

But Bama played Mercer last week. They should have been fresh and prepared for this game.

And they got blown out

Golson5 · Nov 24, 2024

sjb75 said:
Given the fact that both teams have played soft schedules, losing to Northern Illinois is why I would vote Notre Dame slightly behind 10-1 Penn State.

I'm not surprised at all.

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sjb75 · Nov 24, 2024

Golson5 said:
We should be 4 on Tuesday.

Obviously jump Indiana and it's time they move us above PSU

Given the fact that both teams have played soft schedules, losing to Northern Illinois is why I would vote Notre Dame slightly behind 10-1 Penn State.

Texas A&M is no longer a win to point to.

banmate6 · Nov 24, 2024

Golson5 said:
Oh dear here we go again. Sec attrition lol.

They played Mercer last week

The SEC is still very good. And sure, they are inflicting losses on each other, compounding out of conference losses.

You also are doing what may critics of ND do...short quips like: they played NIU las week.

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futuredomer · Nov 24, 2024

Knee sprain for sure out against SC, hopefully nothing worse. I would think back for playoff 🙏

Golson5 · Nov 24, 2024

sjb75 said:
You watched Army. A top 25 ranking is a joke.

They would get steamrolled in the SEC week after week.

But you will refer to Army as a quality win. Just like you did with Navy.

It’s disingenuous.

Vandy Miss State Kentucky Auburn Arkansas Oklahoma Florida

Meat Grinders

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sjb75 · Nov 24, 2024

banmate6 said:
I agree there is no clearly dominant team. But in my view the top 4 seem to be elite vs others aspiring.

Obviously I',m rooting for the Irish...but I gotta be honest: given the schedule and loss to NIU, we can't tell if ND is elite.

The playoffs will determine that. And, if enough stronger SEC teams fail to make it, my hopes rise even more.

Well stated.

To some posters, anything and everything about Notre Dame is elite.

And I agree, we won’t know anything until this team plays a legitimate top 5 team:

Golson5 · Nov 24, 2024

banmate6 said:
They're still a good team. Capable of beating good teams. Losing a coach like Saban is a big deal...as is playing in an SEC where there is attrition.

Like I said, I have a clear top 4...the rest fight it out.

Oh dear here we go again. Sec attrition lol.

They played Mercer last week

banmate6 · Nov 24, 2024

sjb75 said:
Playing Purdue, Army, Miami Ohio and Navy helps.

Well, obviously you can only play the schedule you have. ND didn't set out to make it weaker. And ND has recovered from the loss to NIU, steadily improving.

ND absolutely warrants a high ranking and a playoff at this time. 1 more game to go to ice things.

As always, all of us ultimately use our eye test. Mine sees a very different ND right now. As I posted earlier...we will find out how good ND really can be.

The loss to NIU and weak schedule make this an open question. Hence the playoffs...starting with USC, which is a de facto playoff game.

GDFan · Nov 24, 2024

Great all around game except for the kicking game. Jeter is awful

banmate6 · Nov 24, 2024

Golson5 said:
Someone tell me what Texas has done though?

I don

raulduke_007 said:
I havent seen any team this year that scares me. CFB finally has Parity.

I agree there is no clearly dominant team. But in my view the top 4 seem to be elite vs others aspiring.

Obviously I',m rooting for the Irish...but I gotta be honest: given the schedule and loss to NIU, we can't tell if ND is elite.

The playoffs will determine that. And, if enough stronger SEC teams fail to make it, my hopes rise even more.

sjb75 · Nov 24, 2024

Golson5 said:
Army sucks

Vandy who lost to Ga state very good sec team. Meat grinder

Miss state whov got blown out by Toledo. Sec tough opp. Meat grinder

Clear and obvious bias

You watched Army. A top 25 ranking is a joke.

They would get steamrolled in the SEC week after week.

But you will refer to Army as a quality win. Just like you did with Navy.

It’s disingenuous.

banmate6 · Nov 24, 2024

Golson5 said:
Alabama ?? We beat Am when we weren't nearly as good as now

Alabama, come on bro 🤣

Clear bias

They're still a good team. Capable of beating good teams. Losing a coach like Saban is a big deal...as is playing in an SEC where there is attrition.

Like I said, I have a clear top 4...the rest fight it out.

Golson5 · Nov 24, 2024

sjb75 said:
Playing Purdue, Army, Miami Ohio and Navy helps.

Army sucks

Vandy who lost to Ga state very good sec team. Meat grinder

Miss state whov got blown out by Toledo. Sec tough opp. Meat grinder

Clear and obvious bias

Golson5 · Nov 24, 2024

sjb75 said:
Everything you write is everyone else sucks but Notre Dame doesn’t. Bad loss by Notre Dame? Ignored. When someone else loses? It’s national news.

It gets old.

When did I say Texas sucked?

That's called deflecting when you make something up I said to avoid the issue

I'm going to call you out on it too. Weak attempt.

Don't deflect. Tell me what Texas has done comparative to ND

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