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Curt Cignetti

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Drinking The Green Koolaid said:
While he may be a very good coach, he has an edge to his personality that comes across as arrogance. On Gameday before the game--why was a head coach taking time away from preparing his team and coaching staff for the game to go on TV?--he responded to a question from Herbstreit about IU not beating any top 25 teams. He said, "We don't just beat top-25 teams, we beat the shit out of them." He then noted that when IU beat Nebraska they were ranked 25th and bragged that IU "kicked their ass." You can bet that will be bulletin board material for the next time IU and Nebraska play. Wasn't very classy on Cignetti's part. I have a feeling Cignetti won't be a popular guy with other coaches in the B1G.
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I think it's probably part of his success, and the world at large just has to live with it. You know what I'm saying? You don't turn IU into an 11-1 playoff team by being a shrinking violet. It's possible that you could be all humble and deferential and still did what he did, but not typically, not in a sport like football. So if he's arrogant, that's maybe why he's successful and is part of his success. BK never acted like that, he's not arrogant, even though ND fans falsely claim he is. And he went 12-0 at Cincy and they would have made a 12 team playoff. So of course it can be done. But what IU accomplished was pretty impressive, and I don't think it's a big surprise their coach has a chip on his shoulder. That's how you motivate yourself!
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Won the Battle Hope We Didnt Lose the War

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Golson5 said:
That wasn't our A game
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Yes it was. ND played almost as well as it could. D for sure. But O came close...albeit can still improve.

Don't be fooled by the garbage time points. That's like I said on MF. He allowed the Irish to get lax at the end, knowing the game was in hand.

The ND O in my view cannot get that much better. It comes down to better play calling and some execution. Particularly by the O line in the red zone.

Like I said, RL won't suddenly become a deep passer. He'll continue to live by running and short passing. Again, it's on Denbrock to call things optimally.
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Anyone here listening to College Game Day this morning?

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graceh90 said:
I almost threw up last night when Sean McDonough explained the outcome, “I’m not sure if Indiana just had a bad night or if they are just a bad team”.

As if no other reasonable explanation exists
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Yeah, that became the narrative pretty much from halftime on. Not like ND had anything to do with IU's pedestrian performance.
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Officially Official CFB Playoff 1st Round (Corn & Soybeans Bowl) ND v. IU Game Thread

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chaseball said:
The entire reason why a system like F+ was built was so that we can compare teams as if they were playing the same quality of schedule and experiencing the same amount of luck

Indiana was number nine in F+ with a top 5 offense and a top 15 defense (again these numbers are adjusted for opponent quality)

Even if you play a s***** schedule if you beat up on your schedule enough you can still have a high F+ ranking so Indiana did enough vs their schedule to still produce a top 10 team

Notre Dame smoked them any way

Notre Dame is now considered a slight favorite versus one of the best teams in the SEC ( Georgia) as a result

I don't know what Notre Dame fans need to see but if you look at the evidence (ita out there) it confirms Notre Dame is one of the very best teams in the country. I've been saying this since week 11.

I don't know why the fans are so hell bent on diminishing this 2024 team. If Notre Dame beats Georgia they become a favorite to win the whole thing
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I again bring up how weighting can be skewed when you're beating teams ranked too high. The SEC has deservedly gotten criticism for this. But the BIG has this as well.

Team USA in soccer is ranked too high because it beats teams in the Americas ranked too high. A mid tier European or South American team is actually better than a top North American team. See the point?

Ranking can over exaggerate across different divisions. In this case, Indiana, although decent, is not top 10. Not by quite a shot. Per my last post to you, one could see this based on play vs good opponents, as well as a bit deeper look into metrics.
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Xavier Watts

Drinking The Green Koolaid
Great game by X last night. He came to play. 10 tackles, including 5 solo tackles and 0.5 TFL. And of course his interception was huge after Riley's first pass is batted into the air by an IU D-lineman and then intercepted. While it was very early in the game, really seemed to flip the momentum, especially after Jeremiyah did a house call from ND's own 2.

I was really impressed with X's tackling last night. He took really good lines to the ball and was hitting hard.

Man, we are going to miss X next year.
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Way to many negative plays

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Zorich 88 said:
Again, you said IU has a really good defense. I said NO they do not. I said a really good defense does not give up 400 yards. No, ND does not have a really good defense. This is due to injuries and youth.

Again, I said IU does NOT have a "really good defense". A really good defense does not surrender 400 yards.
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Give it a rest. Indiana's defense is pretty damned good. It proved it all year. I don't care if their schedule was weak. So was ours, and our defense proved itself to be damned good, too, despite lots and lots of injuries.
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Anyone here listening to College Game Day this morning?

deadirishpoet
The Irish win was si awesome, but listening to the SEC cry is just a step below.

With all the backhanded compliments to ND, and crying by the panel makes it easy to bath in their tears.

Kurt Herbstreit and his constant whining is mind bending.
On a better note Listening to Freeman makes me feel great about the future of Notre Dame football.
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Props to the Crowd Last Night!!

Drinking The Green Koolaid
Good article on Yahoo about the atmosphere for the game:

sports.yahoo.com

Notre Dame's frenzied home win proves what college football's brass doesn't want to hear: The postseason belongs on campus

In a world with so many opt-outs and coaching changes, the future of the bowl structure remains a murky and uncertain topic. But the future sites of playoff games? This weekend may show us that they belong on campus.
sports.yahoo.com sports.yahoo.com
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Like I said IU is not one of ND's toughest opponents, maybe 5th or 6th

ivan brunetti
Zorich 88 said:
Indiana is better than SC because?? Their record??? Their common opponent?

I have nothing? Lets compare opponents. IU scored 3 points for 90% of the game. IU had less than 200 yards for 90% of the game. When ND stopped trying, IU scored garbage points.

SC had 35 points and 557 yards.

One question
Who played better overall vs ND, IU OR SC?
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One game is not as important as an entire season.

Indiana was, on average, better than USC this year. Just as ND was, on average, better than NIU this season.
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Way to many negative plays

Zorich 88
Golson5 said:
We have surrendered 400 yards this year. Are we not really good?

Ohio State has surrendered over 400 yards this year. Are they not really good?

Oregon has surrendered over 400 yards

Penn state has

Georgia has

Ole Miss has

Bama has

Who are these good defenses you speak of?
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Again, you said IU has a really good defense. I said NO they do not. I said a really good defense does not give up 400 yards. No, ND does not have a really good defense. This is due to injuries and youth.

Again, I said IU does NOT have a "really good defense". A really good defense does not surrender 400 yards.
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Like I said IU is not one of ND's toughest opponents, maybe 5th or 6th

Zorich 88
Golson5 said:
I already destroyed all your arguments in my previous post. And you made bad points in that 5 point nonsense

You have no argument. 11 and 1 vs 6 and 6 in the same conference and the 11 win team was much better in the 5 common opps

And if you consider the qb switch the 11 win team was still much better in the 2 common opps.

You have nothing. Just your opinion. No facts. No data. Just feelings
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Indiana is better than SC because?? Their record??? Their common opponent?

I have nothing? Lets compare opponents. IU scored 3 points for 90% of the game. IU had less than 200 yards for 90% of the game. When ND stopped trying, IU scored garbage points.

SC had 35 points and 557 yards.

One question
Who played better overall vs ND, IU OR SC?
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