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They lost another verbal commitment for 2025 today. Like 4-5 guys in 10 days
 
They lost another verbal commitment for 2025 today. Like 4-5 guys in 10 days
Before the transfer portal this was a much bigger deal. Notre Dame re-stocked a depleted WR room pretty quickly. Today, this is simply not as big of a deal.
 
Before the transfer portal this was a much bigger deal. Notre Dame re-stocked a depleted WR room pretty quickly. Today, this is simply not as big of a deal.
Prospects with 4+ years of eligibility > 1 year rentals of guys stuck between FBS & NFL levels

everytime
 
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Before the transfer portal this was a much bigger deal. Notre Dame re-stocked a depleted WR room pretty quickly. Today, this is simply not as big of a deal.
Yes it is. Best programs and the Championship programs win the NC through recruiting. That won't change

The transfer portal helps if you missed somewhere and to supplement your roster. Not to build out your roster
 
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Yes it is. Best programs and the Championship programs win the NC through recruiting. That won't change

The transfer portal helps if you missed somewhere and to supplement your roster. Not to build out your roster
For 2024, Notre Dame added transfer portal QB Riley Leonard, and other transfer portal starters on both sides of the football to give the team a far better chance at the 12-team playoff.

The transfer portal has completely changed CFB, and recruiting misses can now more easily be made up for.
 
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For 2024, Notre Dame added transfer portal QB Riley Leonard, and other transfer portal starters on both sides of the football to give the team a far better chance at the 12-team playoff.

The transfer portal has completely changed CFB, and recruiting misses can now more easily be made up for.
Yep. We used it to supplement a roster based on recruiting.

Exactly like I said they should do and exactly what they did

You dont build your roster through the portal. You use it to fill holes

Recruiting is still the most important
 
Yep. We used it to supplement a roster based on recruiting.

Exactly like I said they should do and exactly what they did

You dont build your roster through the portal. You use it to fill holes

Recruiting is still the most important
With the portal, Weis might still be here trudging out 8 win seasons.
 
iT is like in the NFL; you use the draft for building the foundation for your team and FA to fill holes or get a special talent
Now college football will still use recruiting high school stars for the bulk of the starters and use the portal to fill holes
 
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iT is like in the NFL; you use the draft for building the foundation for your team and FA to fill holes or get a special talent
Now college football will still use recruiting high school stars for the bulk of the starters and use the portal to fill holes
If you miss on recruits for whatever reason in a particular recruiting class, it's now one hell of a lot easier to make up for it.

Ask Notre Dame for 2024.
 
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If you miss on recruits for whatever reason in a particular recruiting class, it's now one hell of a lot easier to make up for it.

Ask Notre Dame for 2024.
Recruiting still is the most important part
 
And the transfer portal serves as one huge safety net.

Every single season.

Lane Kiffin and Marcus Freeman will survive.
Not enough to cover up poor recruiting

Every single season.

MF recruits very well so he doesn't need to survive. He needs to use the portal like he did this year
 
Not enough to cover up poor recruiting

Every single season.

MF recruits very well so he doesn't need to survive. He needs to use the portal like he did this year
Marcus Freeman signed multiple transfer portal wide receivers for 2024 for a reason, a secondary kid for 2024 for a reason, and a starting QB for 2024 for a reason.

And this is his third season.

I don't blame him.
 
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Marcus Freeman signed multiple transfer portal wide receivers for 2024 for a reason, a secondary kid for 2024 for a reason, and a starting QB for 2024 for a reason.

And this is his third season.

I don't blame him.
Yep he used it correctly. Build the team through recruiting and fill some holes with the portal

On the 2 deep:

38 players through recruiting

6 players through the portal

He's doing it the right way. Keep it up MF
 
If I was AD/GM at Notre Dame with an NIL budget my talent acquisition strategy would be something like this:

Step 1/HIGHEST PRIORITY (90% of NIL budget): Target high 4 star and 5 star talent at passing-game positions (QB, WR, EDGE, CB, OT ) on the recruiting trail where you can potentially get 3+ years of eligibility from the game's biggest stars at the most rare/in demand positions.

Step 2/ LOW PRIORITY (7% of NIL budget): Fill out the rest of the class with the best prospects you can land at the other positions on the depth chart that fits the budget (probably end up with mostly 3 & low 4 star talent at these other positions)

Step 3/LOWEST PRIORITY (3% of NIL budget): Use transfer portal to fill in whatever you didn't address from Step 2 with 1 year rentals/warm bodies that are mostly 3-4 star talent.

So a typical recruiting class under me as AD would look something like this:

Position: Prospect Rank
QB1: Top 25, 5 star

WR1: Top 50, high 4 star
WR2: Top 100, 4 star

EDGE1: Top 25, 5 star
EDGE2: Top 50, high 4 star

CB1: Top 25, 5 star
CB2: Top 50, high 4 star

OT1: Top 50, high 4 star
OT2: Top 100, 4 star

(basically 90% of budget used on top 10% of prospects)

And fill out the rest of the class with the endless supply of 3 star and low 4 star prospects in any given class and then use the transfer portal as like a plan C for whatever i wasn't able to address from the recruiting trail.
 
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If I was AD/GM at Notre Dame with an NIL budget my talent acquisition strategy would be something like this:

Step 1/HIGH PRIORITY (90% of NIL budget): Target high 4 star and 5 star talent (top 50 overall prospects) at passing-game positions (QB, WR, EDGE, CB, OT ) on the recruiting trail where you can potentially get 3+ years of eligibility from the game's biggest stars at the most important positions.

Step 2/ LOW PRIORITY (7% of NIL budget): Fill out the rest of the class with the best prospects you can land at the other positions on the depth chart that fits the budget (probably end up with mostly 3 & 4 star talent at these other positions)

Step 3/LOWEST PRIORITY (3% of NIL budget): Use transfer portal to fill in whatever you didn't address from Step 2.
thank you for the laugh. Just goes to show how little you know about football
 
thank you for the laugh. Just goes to show how little you know about football
Marcus Freeman bringing in 7 graduate transfers from the portal for this 2024 team, including the starting QB, was crucial to this team's success.
 
thank you for the laugh. Just goes to show how little you know about football
Right now ND is doing it all backwards.

They are skimping on the recruiting trail (almost entirely ignoring the best prospects at the most crucial positions), and spending big on the transfer portal. They are spreading out their resources across the board at every position prioritizing balance over all else.

This strategy is allowing them to lock in a high floor (9 or 10 win season) but costing them the kind of upside needed to be the best team in the country and win it all.
 
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If I was AD/GM at Notre Dame with an NIL budget my talent acquisition strategy would be something like this:

Step 1/HIGH PRIORITY (90% of NIL budget): Target high 4 star and 5 star talent at passing-game positions (QB, WR, EDGE, CB, OT ) on the recruiting trail where you can potentially get 3+ years of eligibility from the game's biggest stars at the most rare/in demand positions.

Step 2/ LOW PRIORITY (7% of NIL budget): Fill out the rest of the class with the best prospects you can land at the other positions on the depth chart that fits the budget (probably end up with mostly 3 & low 4 star talent at these other positions)

Step 3/LOWEST PRIORITY (3% of NIL budget): Use transfer portal to fill in whatever you didn't address from Step 2 with 1 year rentals/warm bodies that are mostly 3-4 star talent.

So a typical recruiting class under me as AD would look something like this:

Position: Prospect Rank
QB1: Top 25, 5 star

WR1: Top 50, high 4 star
WR2: Top 100, 4 star

EDGE1: Top 25, 5 star
EDGE2: Top 50, high 4 star

CB1: Top 25, 5 star
CB2: Top 50, high 4 star

OT1: Top 50, high 4 star
OT2: Top 100, 4 star

(basically 90% of budget used on top 10% of prospects)

And fill out the rest of the class with the endless supply of 3 star and low 4 star prospects in any given class and then use the transfer portal as like a plan C for whatever i wasn't able to address from the recruiting trail.
What a dope
 
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Marcus Freeman bringing in 7 graduate transfers from the portal for this 2024 team, including the starting QB, was crucial to this team's success.
Not nearly as important as the 78 recruits he brought in.
 
Right now ND is doing it all backwards.

They are skimping on the recruiting trail (almost entirely ignoring the best prospects at the most crucial positions), and spending big on the transfer portal. They are filling out the roster so that there are few leaks/holes on the roster but not taking the big risks/big swings needed to secure the best prospects in the country.

This strategy is allowing them to lock in a high floor (9 or 10 win season) but costing them the kind of upside needed to be the best team in the country and win it all.
Clueless
 
Marcus Freeman did not recruit this entire roster.
Most of it. MF and BK recruits that add up to 78 players. MF transfers that add up to 7 players

Build through recruiting will always by far be the most important part of the program. Then use the portal as a way to supplement your roster where you have a need or a hole

He's doing it exactly right and from his comments this month, that's what the plan is moving forward
 
Is this really a serious debate as to whether you build a team through good recruiting or good portal selections? Successful teams have always recruited complimentary players in two year cycles, and that remains the goal for Freeman and ND. The portal helps with misses, or injuries, etc… but these are mostly one year rentals.
 
Is this really a serious debate as to whether you build a team through good recruiting or good portal selections? Successful teams have always recruited complimentary players in two year cycles, and that remains the goal for Freeman and ND. The portal helps with misses, or injuries, etc… but these are mostly one year rentals.
No, it's not a discussion. Of course it starts with good recruiting.

That said, and as I said way earlier, the transfer portal now makes it much easier for a head coach like Marcus Freeman to make up for recruiting misses. Such as the ND WR room for 2024. Or the ND QB room in 2024. Or the ND safety room in 2024.

The transfer portal has changed CFB quite a bit.
 
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Marcus Freeman signed multiple transfer portal wide receivers for 2024 for a reason, a secondary kid for 2024 for a reason, and a starting QB for 2024 for a reason.

And this is his third season.

I don't blame him.

Is this really a serious debate as to whether you build a team through good recruiting or good portal selections? Successful teams have always recruited complimentary players in two year cycles, and that remains the goal for Freeman and ND. The portal helps with misses, or injuries, etc… but these are mostly one year rentals.

no. it is mostly troll puffery.


Early returns indicate that the QB is the most likely position to get from the transfer portal. I can hardly blame the players when there is a 7 digit paycheck at play.

WR might be in 2nd place. IF you are not the featured receiver at one school you might be wasting your time.
 
Yes it is. Best programs and the Championship programs win the NC through recruiting. That won't change

The transfer portal helps if you missed somewhere and to supplement your roster. Not to build out your roster
Exactly, it's to fill in the gaps. Just look at the teams that went deep into the transfer portal recently, like USC and Colorado. Didn't turn out well for either team.
 
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Exactly, it's to fill in the gaps. Just look at the teams that went deep into the transfer portal recently, like USC and Colorado. Didn't turn out well for either team.
Fill in the gaps? Louisville went deep into the transfer portal for 2023. A total of 25 transfer portal kids for 2023. Worked out well, covered up a lot of recruiting misses. Ask Notre Dame how well it worked out.

If you are going to cherry pick, be fair.
 
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Louisville went deep into the transfer portal for 2023. Multiple transfer portal kids. Worked out well. Ask Notre Dame.

If you are going to cherry pick, be fair.
Why would you cherry pick a louisville? Don't you want to be a Playoff team?

How were the Playoff teams built? That's what you should be asking.
 
Why would you cherry pick a louisville? Don't you want to be a Playoff team?

How were the Playoff teams built? That's what you should be asking.
Playoff teams? Mississippi took 23 transfer portal kids in 2023, Oregon 16, Florida St. 12.

All three were NY6 teams in 2023, and easily would have made a 12-team playoff.
 
Why would you cherry pick a louisville? Don't you want to be a Playoff team?

How were the Playoff teams built? That's what you should be asking.
Michigan took 9 transfer portal kids, and won a title.
 
Playoff teams? Mississippi took 23 transfer portal kids in 2023, Oregon 16, Florida St. 12.

All three were NY6 teams in 2023, and easily would have made a 12-team playoff.
How were the playoff teams and NC built last year? There was no 12 team Playoff last year so that is irrelevant

Even the ones you mentioned were built through recruiting and they weren't even Playoff teams
 
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How were the playoff teams and NC built last year? There was no 12 team Playoff last year so that is irrelevant

Even the ones you mentioned were built through recruiting and they weren't even Playoff teams
Lane Kiffin took 23 transfer portal kids, and won an NY6 game in 2023. Oregon took 16 transfer portal kids in 2023, and won an NY6 game. Florida St. took 12 and went 13-0. Michigan took 9 transfer portal kids and won a title.

The transfer portal has changed much in CFB.
 
Lane Kiffin took 23 transfer portal kids, and won an NY6 game in 2023. Oregon took 16 transfer portal kids in 2023, and won an NY6 game. Florida St. took 12 and went 13-0. Michigan took 9 transfer portal kids and won a title.

The transfer portal has changed much in CFB.
So they were built through recruiting and used the portal.

Thank you
 
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