Will Coaches win a game?

[BGI User 348]

I am a firm believer that PLAYERS win games.....and expect top prep from ND coaches every week. I really do hope the offensive coaches do work GREAT together. And if they do I think there will be at least ONE game where a key strategy, even a key play could get us a WIN.

Which game? GT & Navy might be on BVG. socal should have sky-high emotion but might come down to a fsu play to win. Clemson might be the test....on the road...loud crowd......ND still finding itself.

Hope we win them all!!!!

 

[rgc7]

I am a firm believer that PLAYERS win games.....and expect top prep from ND coaches every week. I really do hope the offensive coaches do work GREAT together. And if they do I think there will be at least ONE game where a key strategy, even a key play could get us a WIN.

Which game? GT & Navy might be on BVG. socal should have sky-high emotion but might come down to a fsu play to win. Clemson might be the test....on the road...loud crowd......ND still finding itself.

Hope we win them all!!!!

 

[rgc7]

agree BGI ! Players win games. I think that we certainly have the talent to win most of our games, if the coaches get the team prepared and come into the game with a solid game plan. Talent wise we should roll over at least 1/2 of the teams on our schedule ? We should then be able to beat at least another two or three teams if we don't turn the ball over or at least win the turnover battle.
It then comes down to two or three games, where good coaching and decision making could be the difference ? I hope that Kelly shows great improvement in this area, because some of his past decision making has not been all that great.

 

[DubsDreader]

Coaches always win games. Their coaching, scouting, training and anticipation of scheme and purpose allow players to be prepared to win. They get too little credit especially places like a message board where the average poster has a Napolian Complex and knows little about the real world of CFB

 

[theskibro]

Coaches always win games. Their coaching, scouting, training and anticipation of scheme and purpose allow players to be prepared to win. They get too little credit especially places like a message board where the average poster has a Napolian Complex and knows little about the real world of CFB

Not so fast Players execute. Coaches scheme.

Both are important. If coaches do not win games then how do you explain our LSU gameplan in last year's bowl or our losses to Tulsa, Navy and MSU little Giants under Kelly's watch? And do not forget the second half collapse and change of defensive strategy against FSU in the Champs bowl a few years ago- think it was 2011

Overall Kelly has done a good job but it is easy to point to his failures because those losses are clearly on him His major wins include Oklahoma 2012, LSU 2015 and USC

 

[continually35forever]

Not so fast Players execute. Coaches scheme.

Both are important. If coaches do not win games then how do you explain our LSU gameplan in last year's bowl or our losses to Tulsa, Navy and MSU little Giants under Kelly's watch? And do not forget the second half collapse and change of defensive strategy against FSU in the Champs bowl a few years ago- think it was 2011

Overall Kelly has done a good job but it is easy to point to his failures because those losses are clearly on him His major wins include Oklahoma 2012, LSU 2015 and USC

handed MichSt there only loss a couple years ago -- best win I can remember and of course the Fl St game last yr

Tulsa game was on Rees - worst pass I can remember a ND QB throwing

Irish were really good last yr and got sidetracked by injuries -

This yr they go 11-1 12-0

Coaching is huge only trumped by talent

 

[no1e]

Coaches always win games. Their coaching, scouting, training and anticipation of scheme and purpose allow players to be prepared to win. They get too little credit especially places like a message board where the average poster has a Napolian Complex and knows little about the real world of CFB

Irony .... Lol

 

[Telx1]

Good topic. Obviously, the coaches recruit and develop and prepare the players in the big picture; and they prepare the game plan and make calls and make adjustments on game day. It's on the players to execute if properly prepared. Kelly has made some bone headed calls for sure, but overall, I think he does a really good job making the halftime adjustments critical to winning.

 

[floridairish]

Coaches do not win games, Believe me. But we sure can lose them!

 

[Bodizephax]

Coach Longo is a big help too. I watched the ND vs LSU game last night (some good poster linked it yesterday). ND (especially the Oline) imposed their will on LSU and beat them physically.

 

[BGI User 348]

I really liked the BK of 2012 that we got glimpses of. Intense. Driven. Demanding. I did not see that same guy last season...maybe he was still there. This should be a hard, demanding camp with a veteran group that needs to know that any team on the schedule can beat us. Or we can beat them all. Forget Jack Nolan. Forget espn. & showtime. Put in the work and get ready to play good, hard, dominating football. No distractions. Just WIN Baby!!!

 

[Toby Smart]

I disagree. The Tulsa game was not and I repeat, not on Tommy Rees. You put a true Frosh in an impossible situation, making a fined tune touch throw that many veterans can't make. We all know what the correct call should have been and no, I have or never will "get used" to that call.

 

[88ND]

Sure players have to execute and ultimately win the games. Coaches have to put then in the best possible situations to succeed.

So yes the players win the games but the coach can lose the game.

 

[twalsh]

I disagree. The Tulsa game was not and I repeat, not on Tommy Rees. You put a true Frosh in an impossible situation, making a fined tune touch throw that many veterans can't make. We all know what the correct call should have been and no, I have or never will "get used" to that call.

While I do not agree with the play call at all, it's not inconceivable that Rees' instructions were, "if he's not obviously separating from the DB, throw it into the stands". Reminds me a bit of everyone blaming Davie when Jarious got hurt because he waited too long to step out of the end zone to take a safety, and ended up getting hit. Davie had told him to step out of bounds as soon as anyone gets close to you, Jarious tried to let an extra second run off the clock.The kids don't always execute the play as instructed.

 

[Toby Smart]

You are putting a true rookie in that position to make a safe decision on what to do with the ball and then execute the play in a crucial win or lose situation. All under duress. Way too much for most true Frosh. Kick the game winner and let's all go home happy. Of course, the game should have never got to that point in the first place. Tulsa completes a 3rd and 26 and a 32 yarder on the same game winning possession. And this is all on Freshman Tommy Rees? I do not believe it is.