Washington & Oregon officially to Big 10

[Shakin' Down the Thunder]

The ACC should pick up Stanford and Cal. That could save the conference and boost the non-football sports as well.

Culture wise that makes sense, but man that's a lot of traveling for those 2 teams.

 

[NDDadx3]

ACC should partner with the remaining schools with the best athletic departments and form a coast to coast arrangement for football and basketball and a regional arrangement for Olympic sports that will be pro student athlete … in a few years some of the bloated mega conference members will be seeking something that better balances football revenue and athlete experience … plus the bottom 5-8 schools in these mega conferences are going to get kicked around and won’t be able to recruit.

 

[TDIrish27]

ACC should partner with the remaining schools with the best athletic departments and form a coast to coast arrangement for football and basketball and a regional arrangement for Olympic sports that will be pro student athlete … in a few years some of the bloated mega conference members will be seeking something that better balances football revenue and athlete experience … plus the bottom 5-8 schools in these mega conferences are going to get kicked around and won’t be able to recruit.

None of the Pac 10 schools left would qualify and who wants kids taking road trips in hoops out to Pullman , Washington and Corvallis , Oregon ?

Stanford IMO would be the only one you might think about but you can't have 1 school on the West Coast.

Cal makes a limited effort at D-1 Athletics in the sports that count.

 

[deadirishpoet]

The rest will go to the big 12. Maybe, OSU and Michigan will have some competition other than themselves.
I do not see Riley staying at USC very long. His star QB heads to the NFL after this year. They were one win away from the playoffs. I If they won either game against Utah who knows what happens.
I do not how long ND can stay independent. The ACC has huge buy outs , but it looks like Clemson and FSU cannot wait to leave

To hell with USC

 

[deadirishpoet]

If ND was in the ACC who knows what kind of deal the conference would get ?

Do you ?

Do you know if FSU would be looking to move on ?

I don't

I'll say this-----Clemson , FSU and ND are a nice Top 3 with Pitt , UNC , NC St , Miami, Louisville and Wake in the mid tier group pretty damn good vs other leagues out there. You can toss Duke in now but they were down for years

Even the low end clubs currently GTech , VTech , BC have had their days recently.

Go line by line with some of the other conferences.

Some of them in the middle are not as good and at the bottom it isn't close.

FSU and Clemson have won National Championships within the last 10 years.

Who in the Big 12 has done that ? The Big Ten has won just one in that time period . At the bottom they're awful.

SEC ? Different level and with OU and Texas coming in they'll only improve.

But the other guys are no big deal

Good post

 

[bluehair666]

any ACC expansion would require renegotiating the contract, ND would never accept the current contract, especially the punitive GOR....there may be language within the contract that would trigger an automatic nullification if they expanded...and any alteration to suit ND would most likely allow existing teams to opt out..

 

[buckey]

If we;re being honest, not much longer and it will boil down to the conferences not scheduling us. W're on our way to the Big Ten - like it or not

Wrong

 

[Holycrossover3]

That boils down to a simple question of whether our big game was on NBC or ABC. The Peacock gets about half the ratings of the mouse for college football. That is because for more than a generation we were the only show on that channel.

The game of mousetrap was set in motion by the Universities of Oklahoma and Georgia. They sued the NCAA in 1980s and won back control of tv rights; and were both placed on probation as retaliation. Before that conference realignment was a simple matter handled by athetic directors. After that it became a game of tv rights poker.

As said above it would be a different tv deal. They would probably extend it out to 2050 and up the payout. Also ND would have more of a say at the ACC table and could address Clemson/FSU as peers.

Clemson was home on NBC at 730pm. None of the mentioned games were peacock games.

 

[tbonesays]

So according to you, if you average 9 yards per play but lose the game by 17-0, that‘s a highly successful OC ? ? ?

I never knew that !

None of the Pac 10 schools left would qualify and who wants kids taking road trips in hoops out to Pullman , Washington and Corvallis , Oregon ?

Stanford IMO would be the only one you might think about but you can't have 1 school on the West Coast.

Cal makes a limited effort at D-1 Athletics in the sports that count.

I thought about this. The strength in adding Stanford is its academics and obscure olympic sports. Stanford is good at the things you watch for 2 minutes every four years. So it would not make sense to add them as a football member only.

The institutions of UNC, LJSU, Cal, UVA kina look like each other and and have similar wokeness. If the ACC wanted to be proactive they would call the mouse and pitch building a division in the West that starts with Cal/Stanford.

Clemson was home on NBC at 730pm. None of the mentioned games were peacock games.

That was a nickname. NBC = the peacock. Disney/ESPN = the mouse.

 

[IrishBeer]

I feel bad for every athlete that plays basketball, soccer, baseball, softball, volleyball, swimming, and anything else besides football on Saturdays. Who wants to fly from Rutgers to LA on a Tuesday for a 1 hour volleyball match when they have school work. Money hungry peices of shit.

 

[TDIrish27]

I thought about this. The strength in adding Stanford is its academics and obscure olympic sports. Stanford is good at the things you watch for 2 minutes every four years. So it would not make sense to add them as a football member only.

The institutions of UNC, LJSU, Cal, UVA kina look like each other and and have similar wokeness. If the ACC wanted to be proactive they would call the mouse and pitch building a division in the West that starts with Cal/Stanford.



That was a nickname. NBC = the peacock. Disney/ESPN = the mouse.

I don't think I'd add anyone if I was the ACC unless I could convince Notre Dame to come in full time.

There really isn't anyone else out there with much value.

If ND was interested and I needed another school to come in with them I would likely add UConn.

Not a great football program but coming into a Power Conference could stimulate that area and they are a great hoops program.

They have a very rabid fan base and the school will spend money.

 

[4-4-3]

The ACC should pick up Stanford and Cal. That could save the conference and boost the non-football sports as well.

Call it the Great Atlantic & Pacific Tea Company. I mean -- CONFERENCE.

The academics in these schools could also then do all sorts of sleep studies on JET LAG.

But on a more serious note, let me say first that I'm not a big climate change worrier as it appears to me that THAT HORSE LEFT THE BARN DECADES AGO. My take is that we'll muddle through, regardless of what happens in, to and/or with the ENVIRONMENT.

But cheaply extractable oil of certain types is a more PROBABLE and potentially MORE PROBLEMATIC issue.

I was doing energy research today and came across the following material. It was something I was already aware of, but it CRYSTALLIZED THE POINT I was playing with.

"The world’s number one problem today seems to be an inadequate supply of Middle Distillates. These provide diesel and jet fuel.​

"Countries around the world are now competing for Middle Distillates to maintain the food production, road building, commercial transportation, and construction portions of their economies.​

• Until recently, it has been possible to increase diesel production by refining an added share of Fuel Oil. Fuel oil is quite heavy (barely a liquid), so it is well-suited to be refined into a mix that includes a large share of Middle Distillates.
• Now we are running short of Fuel Oil to refine for the purpose of producing more Middle Distillates. The Fuel Oil that is still consumed is used in what I think of as the poorer countries of the world: the non-OECD countries."

Having a conference where teams must fly back and forth across the entire breadth of the country in an increasingly COST CONSCIOUS and ENERGY-COST CONSCIOUS ENVIRONMENT, doesn't -- at least, to me -- make much sense, especially when all of this revamping is based on the sport's desire for increased profitability.

In fact, I'm skeptical ON A COST BASIS that the current travel demands of conference realignment EVEN IN ITS CURRENT CONFIGURATION is SUSTAINABLE.

And if colleges try to pass off these higher costs onto consumers -- GIVEN THAT THE RETAIL PRICE OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL IS ALREADY AT OBSCENE LEVELS -- they seriously risk PRICING OUT their product.

Time will tell, but it's good to keep in mind that HYDROCARBONS DON'T GROW ON TREES.

Once you raise the BASE LINE for ENERGY COSTS, the rest of it, including ALL SUBSEQUENT PRICING -- AS WELL AS INTEREST RATES -- follows.

 

[sjb75]

Call it the Great Atlantic & Pacific Tea Company. I mean -- CONFERENCE.

The academics in these schools could also then do all sorts of sleep studies on JET LAG.

But on a more serious note, let me say first that I'm not a big climate change worrier as it appears to me that THAT HORSE LEFT THE BARN DECADES AGO. My take is that we'll muddle through, regardless of what happens in, to and/or with the ENVIRONMENT.

But cheaply extractable oil of certain types is a more PROBABLE and potentially MORE PROBLEMATIC issue.

I was doing energy research today and came across the following material. It was something I was already aware of, but it CRYSTALLIZED THE POINT I was playing with.

"The world’s number one problem today seems to be an inadequate supply of Middle Distillates. These provide diesel and jet fuel.​

"Countries around the world are now competing for Middle Distillates to maintain the food production, road building, commercial transportation, and construction portions of their economies.​

• Until recently, it has been possible to increase diesel production by refining an added share of Fuel Oil. Fuel oil is quite heavy (barely a liquid), so it is well-suited to be refined into a mix that includes a large share of Middle Distillates.
• Now we are running short of Fuel Oil to refine for the purpose of producing more Middle Distillates. The Fuel Oil that is still consumed is used in what I think of as the poorer countries of the world: the non-OECD countries."

Having a conference where teams must fly back and forth across the entire breadth of the country in an increasingly COST CONSCIOUS and ENERGY-COST CONSCIOUS ENVIRONMENT, doesn't -- at least, to me -- make much sense, especially when all of this revamping is based on the sport's desire for increased profitability.

In fact, I'm skeptical ON A COST BASIS that the current travel demands of conference realignment EVEN IN ITS CURRENT CONFIGURATION is SUSTAINABLE.

And if colleges try to pass off these higher costs onto consumers -- GIVEN THAT THE RETAIL PRICE OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL IS ALREADY AT OBSCENE LEVELS -- they seriously risk PRICING OUT their product.

Time will tell, but it's good to keep in mind that HYDROCARBONS DON'T GROW ON TREES.

Once you raise the BASE LINE for ENERGY COSTS, the rest of it, including ALL SUBSEQUENT PRICING -- AS WELL AS INTEREST RATES -- follows.

Anyone have Advil?

 

[sjb75]

I feel bad for every athlete that plays basketball, soccer, baseball, softball, volleyball, swimming, and anything else besides football on Saturdays. Who wants to fly from Rutgers to LA on a Tuesday for a 1 hour volleyball match when they have school work. Money hungry peices of shit.

Many of those non-revenue producing sports should be happy that their bills and expenses are paid by the football TV contract.

 

[IrishBeer]

Many of those non-revenue producing sports should be happy that their bills and expenses are paid by the football TV contract.

I doubt the Maryland softball players on a red eye heading home from Oregon on a Wednesday are thinking about how happy they are for the football team paying bills.

 

[jerbach]

Many of those non-revenue producing sports should be happy that their bills and expenses are paid by the football TV contract.

That's true but it would be interesting to determine how much conference travel costs for the golf teams would increase with the new conference alignments. All of the new revenues are solely profit.

 

[NDinNJ]

If we joined, they could renegotiate that lousy agreement. That's grounds for renegotiation.

Now we'll be forced into the Big Ten instead, eventually. That's where things are heading. And BTW we need a home for our non-football sports if the ACC blows up.

Why join any conference?
1. ND has access to the playoff
2. They are getting ready to negotiate their own media rights deal.
3. They can still schedule who they want for the most part outside of the 5 games with the ACC.

The only issue if the ACC falls apart is parking the other sports. I know the B12 has been open to it before. AAC would be another option for the non revenue sports

 

[deadirishpoet]

I feel bad for every athlete that plays basketball, soccer, baseball, softball, volleyball, swimming, and anything else besides football on Saturdays. Who wants to fly from Rutgers to LA on a Tuesday for a 1 hour volleyball match when they have school work. Money hungry peices of shit.

I really never thought much about volleyball found out when I got transfered to Nebraska how popular volleyball is in some parts of the country.

 

[deadirishpoet]

Why join any conference?
1. ND has access to the playoff
2. They are getting ready to negotiate their own media rights deal.
3. They can still schedule who they want for the most part outside of the 5 games with the ACC.

The only issue if the ACC falls apart is parking the other sports. I know the B12 has been open to it before. AAC would be another option for the non revenue sports

I thought the Big 12 was being dismantled?

 

[THUNDERSTRUCK111]

Exactly! People have been saying ND will be forced into a conference for years. And guess what, it's never happened. ESPN just posted an article that ND has no reason to make any moves for the foreseeable future.

I agree with what you have said.
But with the way conference realignment has been trending , and gaining more power to keep an independent out of the playoffs and or punish them with no round 1 bye even if they go undefeated.
It’s a chess Match that we keep getting put in check. Eventually we will be in check mate. We can run but we can’t hide. Jmo.

If we some how get forced to join a conference hopefully we can negotiate and east way out to go back to being an independent.

 

[deadirishpoet]

I agree with what you have said.
But with the way conference realignment has been trending , and gaining more power to keep an independent out of the playoffs and or punish them with no round 1 bye even if they go undefeated.
It’s a chess Match that we keep getting put in check. Eventually we will be in check mate. We can run but we can’t hide. Jmo.

If we some how get forced to join a conference hopefully we can negotiate and east way out to go back to being an independent.

I think once in a conference there will be no way out other than to just switch to a different conference, or leave the established system all together

 

[mrwigglesby21]

Call it the Great Atlantic & Pacific Tea Company. I mean -- CONFERENCE.

The academics in these schools could also then do all sorts of sleep studies on JET LAG.

But on a more serious note, let me say first that I'm not a big climate change worrier as it appears to me that THAT HORSE LEFT THE BARN DECADES AGO. My take is that we'll muddle through, regardless of what happens in, to and/or with the ENVIRONMENT.

But cheaply extractable oil of certain types is a more PROBABLE and potentially MORE PROBLEMATIC issue.

I was doing energy research today and came across the following material. It was something I was already aware of, but it CRYSTALLIZED THE POINT I was playing with.

"The world’s number one problem today seems to be an inadequate supply of Middle Distillates. These provide diesel and jet fuel.​

"Countries around the world are now competing for Middle Distillates to maintain the food production, road building, commercial transportation, and construction portions of their economies.​

• Until recently, it has been possible to increase diesel production by refining an added share of Fuel Oil. Fuel oil is quite heavy (barely a liquid), so it is well-suited to be refined into a mix that includes a large share of Middle Distillates.
• Now we are running short of Fuel Oil to refine for the purpose of producing more Middle Distillates. The Fuel Oil that is still consumed is used in what I think of as the poorer countries of the world: the non-OECD countries."

Having a conference where teams must fly back and forth across the entire breadth of the country in an increasingly COST CONSCIOUS and ENERGY-COST CONSCIOUS ENVIRONMENT, doesn't -- at least, to me -- make much sense, especially when all of this revamping is based on the sport's desire for increased profitability.

In fact, I'm skeptical ON A COST BASIS that the current travel demands of conference realignment EVEN IN ITS CURRENT CONFIGURATION is SUSTAINABLE.

And if colleges try to pass off these higher costs onto consumers -- GIVEN THAT THE RETAIL PRICE OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL IS ALREADY AT OBSCENE LEVELS -- they seriously risk PRICING OUT their product.

Time will tell, but it's good to keep in mind that HYDROCARBONS DON'T GROW ON TREES.

Once you raise the BASE LINE for ENERGY COSTS, the rest of it, including ALL SUBSEQUENT PRICING -- AS WELL AS INTEREST RATES -- follows.

Dr Chris Martenson and the tribe at Peak Prosperity have been on this since 2008/2009, probably sooner.

 

[TDIrish27]

Why join any conference?
1. ND has access to the playoff
2. They are getting ready to negotiate their own media rights deal.
3. They can still schedule who they want for the most part outside of the 5 games with the ACC.

The only issue if the ACC falls apart is parking the other sports. I know the B12 has been open to it before. AAC would be another option for the non revenue sports

Because it's only a 2 year deal.

Suppose you have 4 18-20 team conferences each with 2 Divisions and Divisional winners play for the opportunity to play for a 4 team National Championship Playoff ?

Then what happens to us ?

 

[NDinNJ]

I thought the Big 12 was being dismantled?

We all did, but they've added Colorado, Arizona, Arizona State, and Utah, I believe they will be at 14 teams now. crazy.

 

[NDinNJ]

Because it's only a 2 year deal.

Suppose you have 4 18-20 team conferences each with 2 Divisions and Divisional winners play for the opportunity to play for a 4 team National Championship Playoff ?

Then what happens to us ?

The same thing that happened when they created the BCS championship, and then the CFP. ND will have a seat at the table.
Also, have you seen some divisional winners records over the years? 4-5 loss teams winning divisions. No way an undefeated or one-loss, or even a two loss ND team gets passed over by a 4-5 loss team. No Way!

Add in the fact, if anything, they will be expanding the playoffs further down the road. SEC doesn't want playoffs tied strictly to division or conference champions because the conference gets more $$$ the more teams they qualify for the playoffs.

 

[mbd11]

Why join any conference?
1. ND has access to the playoff
2. They are getting ready to negotiate their own media rights deal.
3. They can still schedule who they want for the most part outside of the 5 games with the ACC.

The only issue if the ACC falls apart is parking the other sports. I know the B12 has been open to it before. AAC would be another option for the non revenue sports

Our non-football sports have done very well in the ACC. And I don't like the geography of the B12. It now spans the entire country. Too much traveling for all our other sports teams. Same with the AAC, which is also a mid-major and not as good a conference.

At least in the ACC, they're only traveling in the Eastern part of the country.

And as for the Playoff, like was mentioned, that's only a 2-year agreement and could change again.

 

[deadirishpoet]

We all did, but they've added Colorado, Arizona, Arizona State, and Utah, I believe they will be at 14 teams now. crazy.

Maybe Nebraska might look at them after all

 

[ivan brunetti]

Our non-football sports have done very well in the ACC. And I don't like the geography of the B12. It now spans the entire country. Too much traveling for all our other sports teams. Same with the AAC, which is also a mid-major and not as good a conference.

At least in the ACC, they're only traveling in the Eastern part of the country.

And as for the Playoff, like was mentioned, that's only a 2-year agreement and could change again.

Of course, if FSU and Clemson convince six other ACC schools to abandon ship, the ACC will likely dissolve.

 

[bluehair666]

ND will remain independent until there is no other choice...the fate of the ACC is out of ND's control, but if it implodes and "disbands", ND will have to find another conference to park the non revenue sports, and to possibly play 4-5 football games, similar deal to what they currently have with the ACC..the schedule may lose some marquee games, but they should be able to cobble together a schedule....where it gets dicey is if the networks exert control over the conferences that they have contracts with, and strong arm them into not scheduling ND...make no mistake, nbc is in ND's corner, and that's it...could easily see espn and fox get together to prevent ND from getting on schedules..ND as a product currently makes no money for fox and espn, it would certainly be smart business for them to try to force ND to join a conference that they control..just my two cents..

 

[NDSMC78]

ND will remain independent until there is no other choice...the fate of the ACC is out of ND's control, but if it implodes and "disbands", ND will have to find another conference to park the non revenue sports, and to possibly play 4-5 football games, similar deal to what they currently have with the ACC..the schedule may lose some marquee games, but they should be able to cobble together a schedule....where it gets dicey is if the networks exert control over the conferences that they have contracts with, and strong arm them into not scheduling ND...make no mistake, nbc is in ND's corner, and that's it...could easily see espn and fox get together to prevent ND from getting on schedules..ND as a product currently makes no money for fox and espn, it would certainly be smart business for them to try to force ND to join a conference that they control..just my two cents..

I don't see this happening. ND turns on TV sets. Schools are not going to stop scheduling ND because they know having ND on the schedule brings in money and more TV viewers

 

[mva5580]

I can imagine the ACC conference call to discuss Cal & Stanford.

"I mean sure I guess....whatever. It'll help our GPA numbers."

 

[NDDadx3]

Because it's only a 2 year deal.

Suppose you have 4 18-20 team conferences each with 2 Divisions and Divisional winners play for the opportunity to play for a 4 team National Championship Playoff ?

Then what happens to us ?

Never make decisions motivated by fear, especially hypothetical fear. Our best move right now is to continue to strengthen our position and then if necessary deal from a position of strength.

We have a new lucrative apparel contract, a soon to be renewed TV contract, full access to playoffs and good bowl games, strong recruiting, one of the nations top schedules and a full slate of top performing non revenue sports. Why are so many people conditioned to worry about doomsday scenarios.

If it’s ever time to join a conference make them outbid each other for our membership. We shouldn’t be thinking I hope we get what Washington or Rutgers got.

 

[bluehair666]

I don't see this happening. ND turns on TV sets. Schools are not going to stop scheduling ND because they know having ND on the schedule brings in money and more TV viewers

maybe i'm mistaken, how does any BigTen team playing ND "make them money"..?...is there money to be made for one game over and above what they get out of the contract already signed?..fox and espn sell advertising during games, most deals are for the season, not for individual games...not saying you're wrong, i just don't see the money to be made on one game with ND..

 

[NDSMC78]

maybe i'm mistaken, how does any BigTen team playing ND "make them money"..?...is there money to be made for one game over and above what they get out of the contract already signed?..fox and espn sell advertising during games, most deals are for the season, not for individual games...not saying you're wrong, i just don't see the money to be made on one game with ND..

ND makes them money by filling up their stadiums. For instance, when ND plays at Ross Ade or Spartan Stadium, the places sell out. Not so when the Boilermakers or Spratans host Illinois, Rutgers, etc. Plus virtually every school jacks up the ticket prices when ND comes to visit.

 

[bluehair666]

ND makes them money by filling up their stadiums. For instance, when ND plays at Ross Ade or Spartan Stadium, the places sell out. Not so when the Boilermakers or Spratans host Illinois, Rutgers, etc. Plus virtually every school jacks up the ticket prices when ND comes to visit.

yeah, i can see that...that's peanuts compared to the tv money...and we already know that the universities obey their tv masters...been reported that the BigTen presidents wanted to bring stanford and cal along with ou and uw...fox told them no...

 

[Shakin' Down the Thunder]

maybe i'm mistaken, how does any BigTen team playing ND "make them money"..?...is there money to be made for one game over and above what they get out of the contract already signed?..fox and espn sell advertising during games, most deals are for the season, not for individual games...not saying you're wrong, i just don't see the money to be made on one game with ND..

It's my understanding that to make it fair for both parties most schools will do a home and home deal, so that both schools have the opportunity to make money as the host. Just like ND did with OSU last year and this year.

 

[bluehair666]

It's my understanding that to make it fair for both parties most schools will do a home and home deal, so that both schools have the opportunity to make money as the host. Just like ND did with OSU last year and this year.

pretty sure that was the idea back in the day, like when teams only had 3-5 games on tv per year, and there were no outrageous tv deals...now i think it's thought of as routine, home and home unless it's a bum team..for example, UM opens with ecu, all the tickets will be "sold"..ends the season hosting osu, all the tickets will be "sold"...not the case for some teams, but UM sells all the tickets printed, so not really dependent on who they are playing..

 

[4-4-3]

Dr Chris Martenson and the tribe at Peak Prosperity have been on this since 2008/2009, probably sooner.

I know Chris personally. Attended one of his workshops in Western Massachusetts a number of years ago. Our family's getaway place is in Dutchess County, New York, quite close to the Massachusetts border. We have land, fish, foodstuffs and ammo -- ASSUMING THAT DAY EVER COMES.

I took Chris's CRASH COURSE back during the FINANCIAL MELTDOWN when I was working as an outside consultant -- LITERALLY ON WALL STREET -- for a firm that had already imploded but was still trying to minimize existing risks. Wound up doing that for SIX YEARS.

I also know Adam Taggart, Chris's erstwhile partner, who now runs his own site -- WEALTHION -- with which you may be familiar. Adam has done very well and gets extremely good people in to talk with. Whereas Chris got more into things political and the whole COVID brouhaha, Adam has stuck with FINANCE and how to protect one's assets.

Another guy who's moved out to Western Mass is JOHN ROBB who runs the Global Guerillas site. Robb pretty much wrote the book on FOURTH GENERATION WARFARE. He's an AF Academy grad with an advanced degree from Yale, and he served as a Delta Force pilot.

Robb is brilliant and also covers these areas, though he focuses more on the digitalization of politics, warfare and insurrection. He's closely following AI.

 

[mrwigglesby21]

I know Chris personally. Attended one of his workshops in Western Massachusetts a number of years ago. Our family's getaway place is in Dutchess County, New York, quite close to the Massachusetts border. We have land, fish, foodstuffs and ammo -- ASSUMING THAT DAY EVER COMES.

I took Chris's CRASH COURSE back during the FINANCIAL MELTDOWN when I was working as an outside consultant -- LITERALLY ON WALL STREET -- for a firm that had already imploded but was still trying to minimize existing risks. Wound up doing that for SIX YEARS.

I also know Adam Taggart, Chris's erstwhile partner, who now runs his own site -- WEALTHION -- with which you may be familiar. Adam has done very well and gets extremely good people in to talk with. Whereas Chris got more into things political and the whole COVID brouhaha, Adam has stuck with FINANCE and how to protect one's assets.

Another guy who's moved out to Western Mass is JOHN ROBB who runs the Global Guerillas site. Robb pretty much wrote the book on FOURTH GENERATION WARFARE. He's an AF Academy grad with an advanced degree from Yale, and he served as a Delta Force pilot.

Robb is brilliant and also covers these areas, though he focuses more on the digitalization of politics, warfare and insurrection. He's closely following AI.

Outstanding. Appreciate the info and I'll definitely give Robb a solid look.

 

[4-4-3]

Outstanding. Appreciate the info and I'll definitely give Robb a solid look.

I'd send you a link to an interesting video of his, but I don't want to sabotage the thread.

But check him out. He's an ORIGINAL.