Adidas = cool, worn by cool young hip people.
UA = not cool, worn by old people and housewives.
Under Armor extension?
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UA = not cool, worn by old people and housewives.
I don't know, man.... I was just being a schmuck.
I would guess Nike is the best. But that's off limits for ND....
Really? That's it?
I must be old since I've never heard that.
I also guess that further substantiates how superficial kids can be now.
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What are you talking about? UA effin' sucks. That's a given. Are you actually white-knighting for mothereffin' Under Armor? Like, kids today suck, and are superficial because they don't seem to appreciate a shitty brand like UA. Indeed....
God damn, UA really does suck, and really is a meathead brand. And really is the anti-Nike. That must be the reason they surprisingly made it so big. The quality, the aesthetics, etc. are immaterial. And are fine as far as it goes. But really what it was was a backlash against Nike, Adidas and any other of the 'cool' brands. UA is homely, lame, and while I wouldn't call it unpretentious, wearing UA certainly never made anyone feel like they were in the cool crowd, that's for damn sure. And that's what appeals to its core constituency. People who are uncomfortable wearing a pretty brand like Nike, or even Adidas, well now they had a sorry-ass brand like UA to call their own, and the rest is history.
ND needs to drop UA on general principle.....
Not white knighting... they are just all the same to me. Clothes with different logos. I simply don't understand stand how UA sucks and the others are the be all end all. I'm genuinely confuse on how this really matters to people.
My wife works at ND and is continually shocked by how much freebies the athletes get. Seems to me that anyone would be grateful to get so much bling as opposed to turned off by the so called wrong brand.
Do you seriously not understand what branding is? Go back to the library, forget the 100 greatest books, start with a book on branding. Report back in a year.
What metric are you using here? Everytime you talk about UA you like to say they suck. But the reality is that the fan gear is a million times better and more trendy than at anytime under adidas. The adidas gear was not forward thinking, was horribly unfashionable and had MAJOR fit issues and quality control issues that I have NEVER seen with UA.
Just one example, i once bought 3 of the same shirts all in the same size and when I got back to North Carolina they ALL FIT DIFFERENT. One was tight in the chest, one was to long and one was just weirdly shaped where it hugged your neck to tight and was too short.
Outside of shoes Adidas is hot garbage. Bad designs. Bad quality. Bad fit.
UA has much better designs and logos along with much better quality control.
Champion hasn't sponsored any football teams in years. The idea that they'd be a good fit is laughable
Well then you must be trolling, then. Because no one could be this stupid and unworldly, as you are sort of pretending to be. Or at least that's what I would surmise about this little socratic thing you got going here, repeating this same simplistic line of questioning. Which is fine because I feel like being a dick myself, so I'm game....
I hate UA, I think they're an awful brand, and I mean that only in the shallow, self-absorbed, spoiled rich American consumer sense of it. And I don't wear Nike, as a matter of my own little personal principle my entire adult life, and that because I felt Nike was too cool and too chic. Doesn't make me any kind of a better person, in fact it probably makes me even more shallow than people who were desperate to have as much Nike stuff as they could. So I really can't toot my own horn about that. That I was that aware of and sensitive to the social implications of brand-name shit. Maybe I am a little bit superior for that, but it's not like it's going to get me into heaven any quicker, we'll put it that way.....
Bottom line, clothes are clothes, stuff is stuff, they all come from the same Chinese factories nowadays, and before that they came from similarly generic American factories, and while quality and design and style naturally does vary from one manufacturer/brand to another, in the grand scheme of things, probably not all that different on any particular score, and the social status that owning/wearing/flaunting a certain brand over another would seem to confer, really is the key thing for a lot of people, and is what would define a 'brand', and is what a particular brand is presumably trying to achieve for itself in the marketplace. After you get past the bare subsistence of having any shirt on your back at all, which of course we totally take for granted in this country, so much so and so entirely that we can even enjoy the luxury to preoccupy ourselves with the social-status/self-image considerations of what brands we like to wear. Aside from guys like you who claim not to care at all, or even to be barely aware of the phenomenon of superficial brand power, and need it explained to them.....
So that's brands for you. Consumer brands, at least when it comes to something unsophisticated like clothing, which is no small thing in terms of our everyday experience. And while the stakes are a little higher for technical gear like computers and cars and whatnot, the branding power and prestige definitely still holds, and still influences us and affects as lonely consumers out there in this crazy world, just looking for love..... So it doesn't really mean shit what brand ND cuts a deal with, and dons their clothes and shoes and whatever else is provided to the exclusion of any other brand. I just feel that UA is a shit brand, and all their shit is ugly and terrible and sucks. As well as on that more elusive, ethereal pure 'branding' level, totally apart from the actual, tangible clothes themselves, I hate them and don't want anything to do with them, and don't want ND to have anything do with them either.....
Good lord, I never really gave it much extended thought, but now that I have, holy shit yes, Under Armor is most definitely an all-out meathead, white-trash brand. It is the anti-Nike, indubitably so. And I'm going to guess that old boy, that little hustler from U of Maryland I believe it is, UA's Phil Knight, must have known that there was a huge market out there to tap, of angry, resentful men who would be quite alienated from a brand like Nike who made clothing and gear that was sufficiently elegant and beautiful that it was almost effeminate. As well as the fact that Nike's main sport is basketball. I guess maybe track and field as well, but really it's basketball. A sport that's never been particularly cozy with a certain sizable demographic in this country, and gets less so every year.... while UA is a legitimate straight-up tackle football brand. And they made little undershirts to put under your pads, hence their clever brand name....
And so you're representin', huh?? According to you UA is great, and they make high quality shit that's totally good looking and cutting edge and checks every box for awesomeness. While Adidas sucks!
I don't think you mean any of this. You just want to F with me. You even brought up 'quality control'. I mean could you be anymore transparently argumentative than that? I don't try to defend myself. I just declare UA to be awful and I think it's obvious that they are, even as a matter of opinion and personal taste. I don't need to back up my original subjective opinion with further, more specific subjective opinions. That's probably why you brought up the quality control angle, which is nevertheless a ridiculous thing to mention. Bottom line is UA sucks, they're pure trash, and that's all there is to it. And if you have to ask why, you'll never understand......
Yeah, but you want to be loved though, right? That's all our modern shallow consumerism is about. Hell that's what democracy itself is all about. Helping us build our social status and to make us more desirable to potential mates. That's pretty much it. Now that our society is so rich and we don't have to worry about merely putting food on the table, and getting the crop in.... The hard part that people never get I suppose, is that owning fancy brands and showing off like some peacock with his feathers all splayed, is never going to get you the love that we all crave. It might get you a mate, it might get you laid, but it won't get you love. Maybe most people are happy to settle for that....
Obviously ND is not looking for love, not looking for the same thing regular saps are getting out of their conspicuous consumption. Quite frankly I would assume ND is simply looking for the best deal in dollars and cents and that's it, everything else is gravy. I guess I can't really fault ND for shunning Nike like they have, because I'm in the same boat. And just out of stubborn pride I'll never willingly wear anything from Nike ever again, though I did cheat once and get a pair of Nike indoor soccer shoes which I still have. And they're definitely not as good as Adidas Sambas.....
Example 22493 that your opinion doesn't matter and that you are out of touch with Notre Dame.
When I was a kid, Converse were THE shoes to wear. My family got a lot of hand me downs from over donations to orphanages, and I was youngest of five, so I got my older brothers' hand me downs. One day, there was a Blue Light Special at K-mart and my mom got me a set of gold Converse shoes. I was excited to be part of the in crowd, but was not terribly impressed with the shoes themselves. I thought they'd be stickier on the floor, but they weren't. When I wore them to school for the first time, I showed them off to some classmates and said what a great deal my mom got them for on the BLS. My classmates said that if I got them on BLS, then they didn't really count as true Converse.
I think ever since that experience, I've never much been into what the in crowd is wearing nor branding in general.
Well, you're a better man for that. Of course not everyone by a long sight is brand-obsessed like some insecure teenager, but it is fair to say that in our modern, hi-tech, hyper-efficient badass manufacturing world we live in of endless mothereffin' stuff to buy, and to consume, and to take some fleeting personal identity in before throwing it away, directly into the ocean at this point is where much of our garbage is going..... that so-called consumer culture has taken over human society, and is pushing our, whatever, our living space to the absolute brink. And it is 'brands', and branding that is the drug, is the obsession, not the stuff itself....
So you're definitely a better man for it. Keep on with that....
UA is worn by sophisticated people with good jobs on casual Fridays. Golfers, muscular and fitter people that go to the gym wear it. Adidas is worn by poor inner city kids, Germans, and former Nazis.
aka ND recruiting targets. As for germans, they probably make good place kickers.
ND’s basic uniforms haven’t experienced substantive changes in 50+ years.
If a 17 year old kid is going to decide on where to play football, based on the school‘s uniforms, ND, Penn State, Alabama and others aren’t going to be on his list.
And if that’s going to influence his decision …. He doesn’t have the required IQ to get into ND
"I was in the game a long time and ultimately was the decision maker on equipment, jersey and pants....etc.."
Curious -- without getting deep in the weeds, what did you do? What part of the country?
UA is worn by rednecks and people who think synthetic fabrics were invented 10 years ago.
The kids NOT are big on UA. They have hit a creative brick wall with the sneakers. Nike just have the biggest variety. Adidas is a distant second
Would be nice if UA did a favor and made these as the standard green jersey as opposed to the ones they sport now with the awful navy fill on the numerals.
Yellow does not go with gold.Would be nice if UA did a favor and made these as the standard green jersey as opposed to the ones they sport now with the awful navy fill on the numerals.
I couldn't stand adidas gear. Always had bad fitting shirts and poor quality gear.
UA is great.
They just messed up trying to get into shoes. When they were pushing the click clack stuff it was fire.
The adidas stuff was crap. I’m pretty much done w Adidas. I think UA has been pretty good, not amazing. I have some nice, good fitting UA shirts.
I can’t see ND going w Nike. Personally, I wear Nike shoes. They’re just the best in that space. But agree with earlier posts, I just don’t see ND following the crowd to Nike.
Wouldn’t mind ND going w Champion. Champion stuff is awesome. But champion doesn’t have an option for shoes. What would you do on that front? Lets the kids decide? Not happening.
Can’t see a Jumpman logo on ND gear.
Reebok is basically dead.
UA might just be the best option.
I can’t see ND going w Nike. Personally, I wear Nike shoes. They’re just the best in that space. But agree with earlier posts, I just don’t see ND following the crowd to Nike.
Wouldn’t mind ND going w Champion. Champion stuff is awesome. But champion doesn’t have an option for shoes. What would you do on that front? Lets the kids decide? Not happening.
Can’t see a Jumpman logo on ND gear.
Reebok is basically dead.
UA might just be the best option.
