Who said that ? You're obviously hating their success this year. All you do is bitch and moan.ND should start hanging banners and building statues for "home playoff game hosting" seasons & coaches now
Who said that ? You're obviously hating their success this year. All you do is bitch and moan.ND should start hanging banners and building statues for "home playoff game hosting" seasons & coaches now
That is the implication you are making like "hosting a playoff game" is some achievement.Who said that ? You're obviously hating their success this year. All you do is bitch and moan.
I call it like they are. Thats why we are sitting at 4 in the only thing that really matter, F+I don't think you've ever described an ND class as anything less than very good to elite.
The Golson5 adjusted 1 to 5 class rating scale:
1-5
1 (very good class)
2 (great class)
3 (very great class)
4 (elite class)
5 (the most elite greatest class ever)
It's better than it's ranking because we got depth in every spot and didn't miss numbers wise anywhere. The talent at the top is really good and a bunch that are undervalued. Easily a top 12 class no doubtThe 25 class isn't as good as its ranking because we needed to fill 3 big position groups with a big influx of talent and we filled 1. Secondary we filled, we missed out big time at WR and we have numbers at DL but not much talent.
He's not coming back. We both know it. We can wager anything you want on it. You know it, I know it, everyone knows itWho's arguing ? No guarantees that's all. Of course he'll be in the league. It will be interesting to see if the new revenue sharing model will give some players a thought about staying and completing their eligibility. Maybe some love the college experience ? Even YOU don't know for certain and you supposedly know everything.
Its ok to reference an objective ranking system non-sarcastically when you want to reinforce your point, nobody is going to make fun of you for it. i disagree with your point/perspective though.I call it like they are. Thats why we are sitting at 4 in the only thing that really matter, F+
Talents not lackingIts ok to reference an objective ranking system non-sarcastically when you want to reinforce your point i just don't agree with it though.
You already know my stance on why ND is ranked in the top 5 in F+ (i believe its elite player development, elite coaching, elite scheme) but the talent on the roster is lacking.
doubling down on your idiotic point doesn't make it anymore correctTalents not lacking
247 team ranking and F+ tells you it's not. Your answer is based on your idiotic opinion
9th in overall talent
5th in per player average
4th in F+
Last 2 classes were loaded with talent. Roster is stacked.
Huff -- Anthonie Knapp and Leonard Moore are on the phone. Trust in our coaches. We have top 100 players from last year who didn't play a down. Who do you trust? Coaches or guys who spend their time alone beating their computers?We get it. ND writers need to put a spin on potentially damaging news. If you really examine his post, however, it’s pretty obvious that the 2025 class as a whole is going to be a huge disappointment, Unless ND intends to play the next few years without wide receivers or standout defensive linemen. And the answer is Marcus Freeman is being much more selective? Really? That’s the spin?
But, if I'm an elite or very good RB -- ND is the place to go. Our Offensive line will be the best in the country for the next three years!"If I'm an elite or even a very good WR looking to show care my skills, ND's offense is not for me. That's the reality."
Been that way for the last 5-7 years (if not longer) -- ND has not shown the capability to get the ball downfield on a consistent basis (not like the OSU's, GA's, Bama's and other programs who throw the ball).
ND has had one of the best olines in the country on paper and in productivity and in the NFL draft for much of the last 10 years. Yet elite RB prospects still chose trendier schools over Notre Dame every cycle.But, if I'm an elite or very good RB -- ND is the place to go. Our Offensive line will be the best in the country for the next three years!
I think the oline is creating the illusion that these RBs are better than they really are .. Kyren and J Love being the exception .. those guys could ball anywhere.And yet... Kyren Williams.... Audric Estime.... J Price... J Love... our RBs have never been our problem... (I agree about WR recruiting, but CJ and Dembrock are going to change that perception in 2025. Kid can really spin it.)
The 25 class only works if we do better than we ever have in the portal at dline and continue/improve getting top portal wrs.It's better than it's ranking because we got depth in every spot and didn't miss numbers wise anywhere. The talent at the top is really good and a bunch that are undervalued. Easily a top 12 class no doubt
Just the factsdoubling down on your idiotic point doesn't make it anymore correct
you are cherry picking
Love and Price are eliteND has had one of the best olines in the country on paper and in productivity and in the NFL draft for much of the last 10 years. Yet elite RB prospects still chose trendier schools over Notre Dame every cycle.
My point: the limitations on the recruiting trail go beyond all explainable logic. There's something about ND institutionally that is just repulsing practically any and every high level prospect with options
Price would start at almost every school in the countryI think the oline is creating the illusion that these RBs are better than they really are .. Kyren and J Love being the exception .. those guys could ball anywhere.
Our 25 works because it works. It's z really good class. Period. Is it elite like the 23 or 24 class but still damn good. Studs all over the placeThe 25 class only works if we do better than we ever have in the portal at dline and continue/improve getting top portal wrs.
Our WR and DL talent is not great. I think Burgess is overrated on the DL (not a bad player) but not a top 50 that his ranking suggests.
At WR, Burress can be a good player, and then we have a safety, and a big project.
Didn't Thurman Thomas want PT and CMF level with him like prolly not gonna get any touches next year.. he dinged with KUIt seems like we struck out this year at RB. We had two commits and dropped them both. And now we have Nolan James. I mentioned this badass sleeper RB from Louisiana who would have been an awesome pickup. But I guess he signed with Duke I think it was today. So we'll have to prioritize the position in '26. And there's always the portal!
Shit like this proves that you're an internet troll. Why come here and start trouble, anonymously like a little bitch?ND should start hanging banners and building statues for "home playoff game hosting" seasons & coaches now
Price was not an elite recruitLove and Price are elite
Price is a red shirt sophomore or are we talking high school? Either way you take kids that you project can take the next step in college & Price gad those tools.Price was not an elite recruit
He got a lot better his senior year
As a senior, he was elite. Maybe you didn't see it. But no doubt watching his Sr year to me that he was going to be a dude. I told you that then and I was rightPrice was not an elite recruit
He got a lot better his senior year
lool @ me "coming here" .. bitch i live here .. this is my house .. what the fux you talkin about?Shit like this proves that you're an internet troll. Why come here and start trouble, anonymously like a little bitch?
You say this about everybody though. If the only time you comment on a recruit is to heap praise on them you are going to be batting 100% anytime a prospect produces above expectationsAs a senior, he was elite. Maybe you didn't see it. But no doubt watching his Sr year to me that he was going to be a dude. I told you that then and I was right
That's what you say when you are wrong. You say this about everyone blah blah blah.lool @ me "coming here" .. bitch i live here .. this is my house .. what the fux you talkin about?
You say this about everybody though. If the only time you comment on a recruit is to heap praise on them you are going to be batting 100% anytime a prospect produces above expectations
The facts are, we know the guys who've produced above expectation because they are front and center of the program killing it on Saturdays. But all of the 3 star and low 4 star guys that the services predictably got right who Notre Dame invested scholarships on who never amounted to anything and are stuck on the practice squad or just quietly disappeared from the program go unspoken about.
I agree it’s a very good class, with a few undervalued players that will surprise to the upside. But I also agree with Nasty that we did not get what is needed at receiver or interior DL, and I’ll be really surprised if those two positions are not the focus of our portal recruiting. In todays game, I don’t think you rate your recruiting class without rating the extent to which portal transfers compliment the class. I’d love to get one or two wr underclassmen from the portal, but that’s a big ask with our admission requirements.Our 25 works because it works. It's z really good class. Period. Is it elite like the 23 or 24 class but still damn good. Studs all over the place
Burgess is an elite recruit, with a top pedigree, so no justification required. Hopefully he'll be great. And I think Husak is a sleeper! He looks great to me. The other two seem, meh. Reiff is one of them, but maybe he could be a DT. And then there's Gulfsted, or I can't remember his name exactly, also didn't wow me, glancing at his clips. But let's just say Burgess and Husak both become quality starters, then boom! We scored. We're in the money. And it would be a totally successful recruiting haul at DE.If you look at the DE's we recruited this year the majority of the board will say its a down year or kids werent elite but if you watch their tape, they all have a body type/frame, motor, & attitude that fits into what Golden wants & you could see 1 or 2 sliding down to DT like Mills
Yes those are holes that we need to hit on the portalI agree it’s a very good class, with a few undervalued players that will surprise to the upside. But I also agree with Nasty that we did not get what is needed at receiver or interior DL, and I’ll be really surprised if those two positions are not the focus of our portal recruiting. In todays game, I don’t think you rate your recruiting class without rating the extent to which portal transfers compliment the class. I’d love to get one or two wr underclassmen from the portal, but that’s a big ask with our admission requirements.
There is scuttlebutt around that they already have a big-time wr on board.Yes those are holes that we need to hit on the portal
👀 go on....There is scuttlebutt around that they already have a big-time wr on board.
Our Offensive line didn't go to the pros with Kyren Williams, did it? Audric has some real hype in his rookie season with the Broncos (still dealing with his fumbling issue, but I predict great things.)I think the oline is creating the illusion that these RBs are better than they really are .. Kyren and J Love being the exception .. those guys could ball anywhere.
Agree. I believe we will fill holes in the portal. Funny how WR seems to be the hardest to predict. Braylon James, Lorenzo Styles, Tobias Merriweather, Jordan Johnson were all 5* or very high 4* recruits.I agree it’s a very good class, with a few undervalued players that will surprise to the upside. But I also agree with Nasty that we did not get what is needed at receiver or interior DL, and I’ll be really surprised if those two positions are not the focus of our portal recruiting. In todays game, I don’t think you rate your recruiting class without rating the extent to which portal transfers compliment the class. I’d love to get one or two wr underclassmen from the portal, but that’s a big ask with our admission requirements.
Yes you were high on him before his senior year, it was not until his senior year film that he showed this potential and I came on board.As a senior, he was elite. Maybe you didn't see it. But no doubt watching his Sr year to me that he was going to be a dude. I told you that then and I was right
And we we managed to get the #10-28-22-6-5 receivers in the last five classes. Two top tens, nearly two top 5s. None worked out."If I'm an elite or even a very good WR looking to show care my skills, ND's offense is not for me. That's the reality."
Been that way for the last 5-7 years (if not longer) -- ND has not shown the capability to get the ball downfield on a consistent basis (not like the OSU's, GA's, Bama's and other programs who throw the ball).