We get it. ND writers need to put a spin on potentially damaging news. If you really examine his post, however, it’s pretty obvious that the 2025 class as a whole is going to be a huge disappointment, Unless ND intends to play the next few years without wide receivers or standout defensive linemen. And the answer is Marcus Freeman is being much more selective? Really? That’s the spin?
Tyler James post on 2925 recruiting
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We definitely whiffed on this class. Maybe I’m wrong. But hopefully we flip a few kids or get some others via transfer portal.
I hope you’re right.
What I can’t understand is we’re a top 5 team right now and we’re not seeing the recruiting boost that comes with that.
Recruiting boost for a great season comes in the next class. 90 percent of the kids were done when we started playing well
It seems like a pretty good group to me. And that's what the portal's for, baby! We'll get some WRs. We gon' be good!
We’ve whiffed in critical areas (DT and WR) … the thought is that nd won’t compete right now with paying top recruits coming out of HS so they are going to use those funds for transfers…
My expectation is we see better starting transfers at say wr or corner or dt or de next year than we have gotten. Hopefully all of them. The word is that we are big game fishing in the portal and they don’t have to always be frosh or grad transfers.
Oline is the hardest position to get in the portal, and that’s what we are recruiting the best at from HS, so that’s good. I am very disappointed we haven’t landed a stud wr, I’m not sure we’ll pay for that in the portal.
My expectation is we see better starting transfers at say wr or corner or dt or de next year than we have gotten. Hopefully all of them. The word is that we are big game fishing in the portal and they don’t have to always be frosh or grad transfers.
Oline is the hardest position to get in the portal, and that’s what we are recruiting the best at from HS, so that’s good. I am very disappointed we haven’t landed a stud wr, I’m not sure we’ll pay for that in the portal.
Get deep into the playoffs. Also the offense has shown very little in the vertical passing game, and I'm being generous when I say that. If I'm an elite or even a very good WR looking to showcase my skills, ND's offense is not for me. That's the reality. I'm hoping that changes with Carr, Angeli, or Minchey next year and the offense is able to get a vertical passing game.
"If I'm an elite or even a very good WR looking to show care my skills, ND's offense is not for me. That's the reality."
Been that way for the last 5-7 years (if not longer) -- ND has not shown the capability to get the ball downfield on a consistent basis (not like the OSU's, GA's, Bama's and other programs who throw the ball).
I think the DL is going to be stacked based on who's already on campus. It's going to be hard to keep Young off the field next season outside of an injury. Although ND is thin at NT, DT so the portal is most likely going to be the play there.
Not worried top 10 class plus the portal. Greathouse, Cam Williams, Jordan Faison, Smith, were good just need them to develop.
They don't even need to air it out like the LSU's. ND can still be a run oriented offense, but they need that vertical strike capability in those 2nd and 3rd and long situations, or if they need to march down the field quickly. Even in 2nd and 1 situations they can call for a long pass play, but ND doesn't have the QB for that. Hopefully that changes next year.
? The RB room is loaded. Everybody returns except Ford. Payne will be back and the two current freshman are studs.
WOW! Calling it 900 years in the future!
That's true. But we had two RB commits previously, and then apparently cut them both loose. So maybe it's better just to stay with only one. If we can't seem to find any good ones.
Maybe on paper not as good a class as hoped for. Still a top 15 class which is pretty good not great. I think the way it’s always been is the combination of classes. That’s where you get a true read. If next years class is in the same ranking, I would say that is an issue if your goal is to be elite. But let’s see what the portal has and maybe the misses in this class can be improved upon through the portal. We shall see
Do you worry about the RB room in 26?
-Love likely gone
-Price probably gone
-A Williams and K Young will be here unless one of them hits the portal (not likely)
-Payne maybe here
-Nolan James likely here
Does the 26 RB room need one more talented guy?
It seems like we struck out this year at RB. We had two commits and dropped them both. And now we have Nolan James. I mentioned this badass sleeper RB from Louisiana who would have been an awesome pickup. But I guess he signed with Duke I think it was today. So we'll have to prioritize the position in '26. And there's always the portal!
NFL maybe. The onset of revenue sharing may change some players minds about going to the next level early. Not a highly valued position in the league compared to others.
I didn't see that you were talking about '26 rather than next year. Now I'm tracking.
Unless he gets injured guaranteed. Let's not play the is he going to stay or go game. You know, I know, the NFL knows, everyone knows he will be a top draft pick when he comes out. Don't even waste the time arguing.
I don't think you've ever described an ND class as anything less than very good to elite.
The Golson5 adjusted 1 to 5 class rating scale:
1-5
1 (very good class)
2 (great class)
3 (very great class)
4 (elite class)
5 (the most elite greatest class ever)
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Yet, here are the actual results of NDs recruiting classes over the last 5 cycles:
21: 9
22: 7
23: 12
24: 9
25: 12
a class ranking average of 11th over the course of the MF era (basically the heart of the NIL era)
and only 1 successfully secured 5 star prospect in the last 5 or so classes combined
Will the media ever question notre dame about ND being one of the lesser talented teams in the event they make it to the playoff ? and how it will ultimately impact their upside in the playoff?
not a chance
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21: 9
22: 7
23: 12
24: 9
25: 12
a class ranking average of 11th over the course of the MF era (basically the heart of the NIL era)
and only 1 successfully secured 5 star prospect in the last 5 or so classes combined
Will the media ever question notre dame about ND being one of the lesser talented teams in the event they make it to the playoff ? and how it will ultimately impact their upside in the playoff?
not a chance
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I don't think the RB room in 26 needs a talented guy, I think they need an game breaker. That's not williams, young, payne (i think will be gone) or james. We need someone with some serious talent at RB in the 26 class.
The 25 class isn't as good as its ranking because we needed to fill 3 big position groups with a big influx of talent and we filled 1. Secondary we filled, we missed out big time at WR and we have numbers at DL but not much talent.
It's not easy to get talent like Love. We missed out on that type of talent 2 classes in a row (although I like our 3 rbs last 2 classes, they just aren't game changers).
Need to hit a homerun in 26 that can bring explosiveness to the group right away. As of now, our 26 RB room looks skilled but slow.
Who's arguing ? No guarantees that's all. Of course he'll be in the league. It will be interesting to see if the new revenue sharing model will give some players a thought about staying and completing their eligibility. Maybe some love the college experience ? Even YOU don't know for certain and you supposedly know everything.
ND should start hanging banners and building statues for "home playoff game hosting" seasons & coaches now
