I just talked. And I'm going to continue to you clown
Glad Deboer used all that previous head coach experience to beat Vandy. It was crucial to their win....
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Wrong
The SEC Couldnt Handle The Grind of a ND Season
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Glad Deboer used all that previous head coach experience to beat Vandy. It was crucial to their win....
Oh wait
Wrong
Anyone who brags about the 2024 Notre Dame schedule, or tells us how great this ND football team is, simply be reminded that when you can’t beat
crappy Northern Illinois in South Bend, you shouldn’t have a whole lot to say.
Watch me. Who are you to tell people what to say or not to say. Shut your mouth you fool
Miami-Ohio to Louisville to Stanford, all at home. and I am being told this schedule is a “…grind…”
LMFAO:
Says the guy that tried to tell me last year that Chip Kelly, in his 6th year at UCLA was doing a great job at .500 ball
Get a grip. AM was a tier 1 win
he is the definition of a sour individual
If Tennessee loses, I just hope that the narrative doesn’t turn into “the SEC is just so deep”. I’m prepared to be let down though.
Yes. It was. Just like losing to Tulsa, losing to a 4-8 Duke team with only one conf win, and losing to a 4-8 NW team …all at home.
Add to that, losing twice to a Navy team with 5 losses…
Oh he absolutely did. Tried to say how far Chip had resurrected the program. At 35-34 record
The Alabama team that lost to Vanderbilt and the Tennessee team that has 0 points at halftime?
How is the 0 points in the 1st half against a 2 loss team going to affect their raw prodction?
When did we start evaluating programs and quality of teams based on the outcome of a single game?
Even if Alabama and Georgia lost 100-0 to NIU today I would still put all my money on Alabama and Georgia the following week to run over Notre Dame
These teams aren't even playing in the same level of college football.
You were running your mouth about how great they are compared to us and how weak our schedule is
Yet the facts say these teams have played weaker schedules than us (Tenn, Ole Miss) and Bama lost to Vandy and gave up 40 points. Vandy is playing at a diff level of cfb than Bama.
Wasn't a good day for you today.
How did Missouri look against TX Am who we beat by 10?
Rough rough day
And Army can get into the playoffs and win a national title
And while we're at it, Riley Leonard could turn into a Heisman trophy winner
And let's give Beaux Collins the Biletnikoff award 😂
A rough day for me what are you talking about?
Some of the best teams in the country got upset today it happens. This doesn't change anything going forward for the Notre Dame football program or the top tier teams in college football they are all susceptible to random one-off losses you don't throw out years of evaluations and data on these programs because of a single possession loss in a single game one weekend you are doing it wrong
Of course it does. Our year now is much better than Tennessees. Same record but our sos is much better.
You told me how they were well above us.
Rough rough day for your narratives 🤣🤣
Sports are great because you have to play the games to know who's the best. Across an entire season. Playoffs too.
So today we of course saw some upsets. But how does that contextualize ND? I am not sure.
I however would not bet on ND over AL, MI, or GA. I still think the Irish have fundamental issues: Denbrock, the OL, RL, and Freeman. My eye test says the aforementioned teams are better.
But we will see the rest of the way. So many what ifs. Can ND run the table and make the playoffs if top teams have > 1 loss? Or do the Irish lose more and we gnash our teeth?
Same for questions on SOS. Other than TAMU, I don't think the Irish have played very good teams.
Too many variables.
So today we of course saw some upsets. But how does that contextualize ND? I am not sure.
I however would not bet on ND over AL, MI, or GA. I still think the Irish have fundamental issues: Denbrock, the OL, RL, and Freeman. My eye test says the aforementioned teams are better.
But we will see the rest of the way. So many what ifs. Can ND run the table and make the playoffs if top teams have > 1 loss? Or do the Irish lose more and we gnash our teeth?
Same for questions on SOS. Other than TAMU, I don't think the Irish have played very good teams.
Too many variables.
So Notre Dame is a better football program today because Tennessee lost to Arkansas and Alabama lost to Vandy?
That's why you use a system that incorporates a lot of data over a number of games to provide a hierarchy of who the best teams are in the country
Alabama and Tennessee are ranked in the top seven of college football so far in F+ based on their overall production/body of work this season
a one-off loss will lower their rating a little bit but it doesn't really change much That's why I don't understand the weird victory lapse people are taking today it makes no sense
No. You told me today that Tennessee was on another level than ND (they arent)
So now they have the same record as ND but our sos is much better than theirs right now
But you will still say Tenn is on another level based on nothing but your opinion. Nothing on the field says so.
Notre Dame is not a better program than Bama. Only someone trying to defect would say that. But I think we can compete with Bama this year. They aren't so far above us like they have been in the past. Their defense is not the Bama defense of past
There are no unbeatable teams this season. Last year either. More parity last 2 years than there has been in a long long time
And they will both be dropped some after today because these games will count too and when you put the data in from today it will knock them down because they played like shit against average teams
If ND goes undefeated and those teams have>= 2 losses, it can get interesting.
Data only goes so far in a voting based ranking system. This is not an ELO style system, used in chess or soccer national team rankings. Interestingly enough, the highest ranked national soccer teams are not necessarily the winners of major tournaments...so even that is not perfectly correlated.
from someone who dribbles about F+ garbage....
I never said Tennessee was at the level of Alabama or Georgia I just said that they would be favored in a game at a neutral site against Notre Dame and that would still be the case even after their loss to Arkansas today.
Again I don't get how some really good teams losing today in one off losses in one possession games against teams in their own conference changes anything at all nobody was saying that Alabama and Tennessee were going to go undefeated and demolish everybody by 50 points
Alabama would still be a huge favorite over Notre Dame
I would still pick Tennessee over Notre Dame if they were playing an hypothetical matchup this upcoming Saturday at a neutral site
Yes their performance today was not on par with their typical performance so far this season and the data from today will be incorporated into the overall data on these teams and impact their rating but none of these losses are some program defining indictment on the quality of these teams going forward
If you are drastically changing your evaluations of teams based on a single one possession loss then you're not doing it right
Let me frame it another way
If Alabama and Tennessee were to win today by 30 points in their games I would still feel the same way about both of these teams very little changes in the overall outlook based on the performance of a single game
It's the same reason why F+ still has Notre Dame in the top 10 despite losing to the number 100 ranked NIU
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In the real world, the games matter
The results today will have a huge impact of the CFP
I would have taken ND over Tenn before today and my opinion was only strengthened by how things went today.
Same with a Missouri USC and Michigan
All the teams losing is good for our Irish, as long as our Irish win out.
That said, there is a difference losing to a conference foe vs a non conference group of five team at home. The games have to be played on the field but I would think NIU is an underdog to Arkansas but Vandy, maybe, maybe not? Vandy likely has a better roster over all though. I’d bet Vandy on a neutral field.
That said, there is a difference losing to a conference foe vs a non conference group of five team at home. The games have to be played on the field but I would think NIU is an underdog to Arkansas but Vandy, maybe, maybe not? Vandy likely has a better roster over all though. I’d bet Vandy on a neutral field.
ND will be in the playoffs, and you'll be here so mad, but trying to sound smart and funny.
I can see it now. On the internet at 1am, looking for people to argue with.
The irony. From the guy who continues to “evaluate” Colorado based on the outcome of a single game
Tennessee eh? Put up 0 points at half vs Arkansas I believe, and lost the game. Our strength is pass defense. We would match up well with Tennessee. Alabama and Georgia would be a problem, of course.
