Unless, of course, if we manage to win. Then it will be a meaningless win against a mediocre/injured/tired/unmotivated opponent who we should have easily defeated.
Stanford will beat us
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Unless, of course, if we manage to win. Then it will be a meaningless win against a mediocre/injured/tired/unmotivated opponent who we should have easily defeated.
Except if ND loses.... then it’s “a big game that Brian Kelly lost.”
4 of 6 on 4th downs (average ypc of 1 yard on those 6 plays) and a fumble on a punt return. It certainly wasn’t because the defense was gashed. They gave up 4 ypc.
Sucks since the game has national inplications. If ND beats SU and then SU loses to USC they will not get a NY6 bowl for sure. If SU loses to ND and beats SC they most like will not get NY6 bowl.
The only hope for SU is a sweep of ND and USC.
AND SU is no sure thing for the Pac12 championship game.
It seems to me that there were a couple of other top players that sat for the ND game. I know Greg Dortch for WF was one, but wasn't there someone else?
Talent is even. It is Kelly vs Shaw. Edge to Shaw. The worst thing about Kelly is no one knows which ND will show up.The one from Miami or the one from UOJ.
It's simply a fact that SC was banged up in mid October just like the Irish are hampered by injuries right now.
Are you counting the last "drive" where we simply took a knee to end the game? 24 points in 15 minutes is pretty good. That would equate to 48 points in a usual game. The most frustrating part of the Navy game was the choke jobs on crucial 3rd and 4th downs. Other than that, the team played pretty well overall.
There are what 130 FBS teams and Stanford is in the top 25, yet they are nothing special? OK!
I wish it was a joke. The last three games Love has started and been unable to finish. The ankle needs rest, if he is to ever get healthy this season.
Hate to hear that. I want to see how our defense would deal with him.
I say this will be a toss up game. The problem is, whenever that is the case, it seems the coined being tossed is a double sided coin with two heads and we are tails.
I'll pick Stanford in a tight one. Hope so bad I am wrong.
I'll pick Stanford in a tight one. Hope so bad I am wrong.
I hope not.. we are good enough to win if don't play like shi8 as we did the last two weeks..
"choke jobs" ? no credit to navy for their great execution all game long ?
I don't know why you think ND should be 10-1. We were thoroughly outclassed by Miami and had no chance to win that game.
The kneel down at the end would have been our 8th possession. 4 scores, 3 punts, and a kneel down. We lost a possession on Finke's fumble. Since possessions are gold in the Navy game, we are fortunate that the fumble didn't cost us the game.
I believe last year we had the ball with a chance to go up by two scores in the 3Q, and turned it over. That cost us big time.
What injuries? What starters are lost? Balis has kept ND pretty much in tact all season.
SC losing 6-8 starters is somewhat more than ‘banged up’. Losing 40% of your starters, ‘hampered’? And injuries are possibly the least of SC problems.
He needs to get healthy. I am not certain that the Huskies beat the Cougs though. This could be Bryce's last game. He could pull a McCaffrey and sit out a bowl game since he is likely a first round pick with his speed.
I think they have to play him unless the ankle is so tender he would be ineffective. They need to be 9-3 and Bryce is a huge big play guy.
The thing is, we held Navy to their lowest point total and basically slowed them down very well, but they came through on the crucial downs. I felt either their execution was lacking for the most part, or we did a nice job containing them.
Could have been a lot better for us without the 3rd and 16 conversion on a simple FB dive, or the 4th down offsides, or the 4th down pass to the lunging FB on the wheel route.
Was the score not 0-0 at the start of the game. Notre Dame had every chance going into that game to win it. When they were down 14-0, it wasn't over. I mean I don't equate the Hurricanes team that beat Notre Dame with greatness. They outplayed Notre Dame and deserved to win, but Notre Dame went into that game as the favored team. Notre Dame's rushing attack was certainly better than Miami's rushing defense (67th I believe) going into that game. Notre Dame destroyed a much better USC team a few weeks earlier while Miami struggled with its opponents heading into that game. So, yes I believe had Notre Dame played the way they had been playing heading into Miami, they should have won that game. Miami was ready to go. Notre Dame was not. That's the difference between Kelly being a good coach and a great coach. I think Notre Dame beats Stanford this week and gets to 10 wins. It's a good season, but it could have been a great season because the Irish should be in the playoffs fighting for a national championship. If you would have said the Irish had to go into Alabama and win to keep their hopes alive, I would give that to you, but this was the Hurricanes. Look at what Virginia did to them the week after Notre Dame played them. The Hurricanes are not world beaters by any means. It was a missed opportunity, and those opportunities don't come around every year due to injuries, suspensions, what have you. Everything was falling into place for Notre Dame this season and Kelly gets credit for that. The new coaching hires, etc. But the closer they get to the brass ring, the more Kelly shrinks under the spotlight.
nd beat both of them. whats your point ?
i just don;t think the term is appropriate. navy did a good job against superior talent.
Some of these dudes around here need to ask Greer or Nyles, or Drue or Julian what's it like to defend and play Navy. I'm not sure that would even convince them that the Middies are a bunch of disciplined tough guys who play every down like it's their last. I heard Jarrett Grace on the post game show say that playing Navy is taxing, the week before and the week after. He should know. He's actually done it. Irish live to play another day. I also want to give major props to all the Irish and Navy fans and students who stuck it out to the end in ridiculous conditions. The players notice.
My point simply is all the pre-game "shoulds" don't mean anything once you play the game. And once that game started, Miami outplayed us pretty much start to finish. End of discussion for me. (Kind of like how we outplayed USC pretty much from start to finish, except for an even stretch in the third quarter.)
One thing I can't for the life of me figure out is why we seem to come out so flat. Even a lousy coach can impress upon a team the importance of an upcoming game. But I believe Kelly tries to keep his team on an even keeled business-as-usual approach. He might be succeeding too well for all I know.
For what it's worth, I think I was the only person on the prediction thread to pick Miami, and I envisioned them winning a close game, not a rout.
Well, actually, I don't think they were flat either, just sort of businesslike. And when they didn't succeed, they just had no other options to fall back on.
I really don't think an early TD would have changed things. If we had jumped out in front 17-0 or something, sure.
I'd be interested in hearing what you thought of the play calling in that game as a former offensive linemen. (I'm no expert by any means, but I think when you call running plays out of the shotgun it has the effect of being like a very obvious draw play. Obviously, there's pulling and trapping involved so the little delay doesn't matter provided your line is handling its opponents. But that certainly wasn't the case against Miami.
Noooo no no. We want him to play. The optics will be “ND didn’t beat Stanford” unless Love plays. Hope he plays but I also understand the Title Game is a lot more important for you all.
Highs become lows unless you’re successful early. It’s alot easier to get amped up later in the game and not risk an energy outage since most of the players have exhausted themselves. Or some biological stuff like that. Idk but I’ve definitely heard BK talk about wanting his players on an even keel all game long. Same reason he always takes the ball first and uses his “chart” to decide when to go for two. He’s coaches for 25 years so he obviously has bored himself into over analyzing things.
Josh Adams, Dexter Williams are obviously hurt. Playing hurt. I think Wimbush is down a bit too as his accuracy has somehow got worse.
Navy is a typical good fight team this year like much of our schedule that does not include 'Mercer' or any other school no one has heard of. The Middies played close games against the top of the AAC in UCF and Memphis. We held them to fewer yards than they average but most of that average was made against the ACC in good weather. I think we would have handled them like Wake and NCST if the game was in September.
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Don’t you need Washington to best Wash St this Saturday in order to go to the Conf Championship game?
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