Rookie Head Coaching Blues
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He was successful because he had Brian Kelly as a safety net.
I dont care. He's not an offensive coach idiot. That's why you hire an OC. He has no background on offense. He can add little.
We put up 35 points in the first half. Why would he interfere
He was successful because he had 2 competent QBs. He does not have that this year. Has nothing to do with Kelly
Yeah to screw things up. He hired BVG and let him stay way too long. Then JS hired a real DC and things improved. BK didnt tell Elko, Lea and MF what to do.
He probably had some input but very little.
Yea and when he hired the wrong DC (Van Gorder) the D got their doors blown off in a 4-8 season
Then 54-9, then 95 million guaranteed....and his first season in Baton Rouge has been a good one.
Not bad.
You must be getting a piece of that 95 million, you mention it so often. 😂 LSU want a championship, let's see what he does vs Georgia. SEC West is in a down year, the two elite teams are in the east. Kelly already got a beat down to one, The other is coming in a few weeks.
I admire anyone who rises to the top of a profession as tough as being a Head Coach in major CFB. Including Brian Kelly. I believe he is a damn good Head Coach. If you don’t so be it.
I never said that. At halftime, there was nothing for him to say to the OC.
The more he learns and studies offenses, the more input he can have. But he should hire an OC that he shouldnt have much to say about the offense.
He shouldnt micromanage as the head coach. Especially on the side of the ball that is not his expertise. He should hire a OC where that isnt necessary
Glad to see your back. You went into hiding last week after our top 5 win
Now you came back to bitch after a win
But gotta keep your narrative going
You consider Kelly at the top of his profession? Someone that has yet to win a meaningful game? A NY6 bowl game, Playoff game, a championship. Glad I don't hang in your circles, and feel bad for those that do with those standards.
Yes I do. When you can take Notre Dame to two four team CFB playoffs in the last 5 seasons, you’ve arrived. Losing to transcendent Alabama and Clemson teams doesn’t change that. Brian Kelly goes to LSU and immediately, in year 1, beats Nick Saban and Alabama, and has a great chance to go 10-2 in year 1. And won the SEC West.
So yes, I believe Brian Kelly is at the top of his profession. I include around 10-15 Head Coaches in that group. And he is one of them. Chip Kelly as well, who I am watching now.
And if you disagree, OK.
A coach that has been awarded national head coach of the year x2, yes I would say it fair to consider at the top of his profession. As for meaningful games, ‘12 OK, ‘12 Stanfor, ‘12 USC we’re not meaningless. Beating Bama and winning the SEC west year one are not meaningless.
I despise how Kelly lied to his AD, assistant coaches, players and recruits when he left ND. That was an incredibly selfish thing to do. But it does not whitewash the fact that he resurrected a dying program. It wasn’t pretty, it’s an ugly business. Holtz’s tenure and departure weren’t pretty either and he has a statue outside the building
I'm not staying Kelly is a bad coach, he is a very good coach, but he's far from being a great coach.
Holtz won a championship and was robbed of a 2nd. Holtz had a respectable won-loss record vs top 10 teams. Holtz won major bowl games, Holtz didn't go 4-8 in year 7 of his tenure.
Kelly achieved none of those.and did go 4-8 in year 7 of his tenure.
Holtz hired Gary Darnell and 2 of the greatest rosters in school history, lost 6 games in 1990 and 1991, after losing just 1, in 88 & 89. It got so bad Holtz fired him and ran the defense himself vs Florida in the Sugar Bowl.
If you hang around a program for a decade, you are going to make a bad hire. Kelly fixed the hire and brought in Elko and Lea and responded with success.
Holtz and Kelly are (College Football HOF coaches BTW) Let's see how Freeman responds. Oh, here is a fun fact for you and the buttboyfromNJ. Brian Kelly and Lou Holtz came from the offensive side of the ball. But were also defensive coaches early in their careers.
Tell me geniuses, if MF fires Rees's which he will not, who is going to be interviewing the "new" OC? We clearly see Freeman knows not one thing about coaching offense, coordinating offense or calling offense.
He just regurgitates the same talking points like a robot
1. We have to be an OL driven football program
2. We have to run the ball effectively
2. We have to play complimentary football
Rinse, repeat. Those are sound bites from someone who does not a grasp of the offensive side of the ball. A 5-year-old could see what Navy was doing in the 2nd half, and any Head Coach worth a damn would have made his OC adjust.
To either max protect and take a shot, or spread the formations and throw quicks, screens. Those ARE the only 2 adjustments against zero pressure for the last 30 YEARS. ND has THOSE PLAYS
But instead, we had a 30-year-old OC, less than 3 years on the job, freeze up. Which happens to young play callers and a Head Coach who failed to provide any guidance or leadership.
That is why against
6-4 Marshall
3-7 Stanford
3-7 Navy
ND is 1-2, and out of the CFP. Period end of story. All your Rees and Pyne excuses are exactly just that EXCUSES.
There is no comparison between Holtz and Kelly. The debate ends at Holtz has a NC, Kelly does not.
You are comparing losing 6 games over two seasons vs 8 in one season. Your argument is ludicrous!!
Holtz is head and shoulders above Kelly. there is no comparison. It's why Holtz has a statue and Kelly never will.
As for Rees, Freeman didn't hire Rees, Jack did, BEFORE he hired Freeman. This places Freeman in an extremely awkward position.
Regardless, Rees is not going anywhere at least for the next year, unless he decides to leave on his own. Not having a QB this season gave Rees a mulligan.
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As a defensive specialist, Freeman fully understood what Navy was doing and the risks they were running, and he knows the kinds of offensive plays that take advantage of these risks. Would like to think he was chewing on Rees to adjust and Burn Navy’s exposure, but we saw no evidence of this. Adjustments are not limited to halftime.
And there’s no comparison between Frank Leahy, who won way more titles and had a way higher winning percentage, and Lou Holtz.
But you will never see me compare Frank Leahy to Lou Holtz.
Comparing Head Coach records who coached decades apart is misguided.
I agree, but success is measured in NC and how you performed against equal or greater competition. Holtz and Leahy succeeded, Kelly failed.
A top 5 roster???
QB???? Are you saying ND has a top 5 QB? Pyne would not start on any team ND played outside of Navy.
WR??? Does ND have 1 top 5 WR???? Nope
ND does not have a top 30 WR
LB??? Good not great. ND definitely does not have a to 5 LB. Not even a top 20
DL? Isaiah maybe top 10-15???? Then that’s it
The secondary as a whole.
Joseph is good not great and Morrison is definitely going to be a top CB.
The rest of the secondary is no where near top 5.
I love the Oline
So, I see no top 5 players outside of maybe Oline.
Personally I don't care but he really hasn't won anything yet. He won the ACC regular season in 2020, and we all know what happened when it actually mattered in the conference championship game.
Even with all the bags of money and local talent, he'll find a way to screw it up. He just can't win games when it ACTUALLY MATTERS.
